More Books and Lore please

Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:21 am

I don't care how many were added to Oblivion, I just want Skyrim and all future titles to have tons of new lore and stories to read.
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carrie roche
 
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:30 am

How can they possibly address it? Oblivion introduced many books to the series... second only in amount to Morrowind out of the four core games. They created many for Oblivion, and yet they still get criticized for supposedly not doing so? How can one address a complaint founded on a completely false principle and grave misconception which ignores that that which is being demanded is already there? Should they cut out all books from previous games so that people don't see them everywhere and assume their presense means no new ones were made for Skyrim? Everything about Oblivion seems majorly criticized on these foru,ms. That doesn't mean the criticisms all hold any position within fact... or reason.

The only MAJOR Lore contributon (in book form) to Oblivion was the Warp in the West, I just want to see some lore intensive books. Morrowinds books (imo) had much more substance than Oblivions, whereas Oblivions were all anecdotes, not lore related.
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:11 am

I hope so too, I collected and read all the books in Morrowind and Oblivion. Some were dang hard to find as well. The two Palla books are my favorite, what are yours?



Mine is the "Lusty Argonian Maid" :wink_smile:

But more on topic...I'm sure they will add more books, i enjoyed collecting them and making my own library, and then reading them to add to my knowledge of lore...especially those personal letters/notes/diarys....LOVED THOSE.
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Post » Mon Aug 23, 2010 10:09 pm

I just want the 2920 Series in Skyrim, i dont care for anything else
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:27 am

The only MAJOR Lore contributon (in book form) to Oblivion was the Warp in the West, I just want to see some lore intensive books. Morrowinds books (imo) had much more substance than Oblivions, whereas Oblivions were all anecdotes, not lore related.

No. Just no. I suppose someone doesn't know as much as they could about the Ayleids (which were barely explored in any way before Oblivion), the Tamrielic invasion of Akavir (no, I didn't accidentally switch the two continents), Reman Cyrodiil, Pelinal Whitestrake, the procedure (in detail) involved with opening an Oblivion gate, the various vampires of Tamriel, two important figures in Skingrad's and Bravil's history, and Sancre Tor, among various other things. Either you have some reading to do or your sense of lore is strange. I'm pretty sure Morrowind had many anecdotes and I know Daggerfall had many, as well. If you're unwilling to count those, then there are many to cut from all three of those core games. Talos forbid we get to enjoy amusing stories or reading material such as Daggerfall's book of jokes, its entire King Edward or Real Barenziah series, the tale of light and dark from Daggerfall (detailing a grandfather's anecdote as dictated to his grandchildren), the book on Nymphs in Daggerfall, the book on faeries, in Daggerfall, the rude song and less rude songs, Morrowind's scrib-related children's tale, Morrowind's poem book, the Sermons of Vivec (all 36, which I have counted as individual books), Morrowind's Dance in the Fire series, and many other from both games. I mean, Wabbajack from Daggerfall was definitely an anecdote.
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:09 pm

No. Just no. I suppose someone doesn't know as much as they could about the Ayleids (which were barely explored in any way before Oblivion), the Tamrielic invasion of Akavir (no, I didn't accidentally switch the two continents), Reman Cyrodiil, Pelinal Whitestrake, the procedure (in detail) involved with opening an Oblivion gate, the various vampires of Tamriel, two important figures in Skingrad's and Bravil's history, and Sancre Tor, among various other things. Either you have some reading to do or your sense of lore is strange. I'm pretty sure Morrowind had many anecdotes and I know Daggerfall had many, as well. If you're unwilling to count those, then there are many to cut from all three of those core games.

I didn;t really spend much time book collecting in OB, at least not as much in Morrowind, so in my searches in the Imperial Library I probably assumed most of tose were from MW :blush2:
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:00 am

I didn;t really spend much time book collecting in OB, at least not as much in Morrowind, so in my searches in the Imperial Library I probably assumed most of tose were from MW :blush2:

And this, people, is why you should never trust the most trusted and detailed website for Elder Scrolls lore on the internet. :P
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:01 pm

My favorite book was the http://oblivion.wikia.com/wiki/The_Lusty_Argonian_Maid also http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1166395-books-and-skyrim-including-scrolls-bits-of-paper-ect/page__mode__show
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:18 am

Hardly? Oblivion added 140, Morrowind 230, and Daggerfall 90. Oblivion added plenty and I'm sure Skyrim will, as well. Where do people get this "hardly" fallacies from?

People of the beth forums seem to be unpleasable and will always want more and more of course "/ they need 1000 books at least to keep them happy it seems :shrug:
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:14 pm

People of the beth forums seem to be unpleasable and will always want more and more of course "/ they need 1000 books at least to keep them happy it seems :shrug:

Well, I want 1000 books in the next game, but it's not quite a realistic request. :P I've no doubt we'll get plenty of lore in Skyrim though... in book form or otherwise. Basically, my point with that listing of numbers was merely that Bethesda has never forgotten to actually write any more lore or books and I doubt they'll stop now. Since 1996, they've been providing new books with each game, and I guarantee they won't just stop with Skyrim. At the very least, I think we'll see about 90 new books, but knowing Bethesda's financial booming, recently, I think we might be in for a larger treat. If we literally don't get any books, that's going to be a problem, but I doubt Bethesda would just not write more. They seem to be attempting some interesting new implementation of books and book reading in Skyrim, so I don't see why they wouldn't provide new reading material.
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:32 am

As far as the new books go, I want to see more lore and history on the Altmer and the Psijics. Of course there will be lots of information on the Nords. But I also want to have more information on the High Elves as there isn't much that is officially known about them or the Psijics. (god, they removed Mysticism from the series. Now what will the Psijics study?)
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:36 am

Well, I want 1000 books in the next game, but it's not quite a realistic request. :P I've no doubt we'll get plenty of lore in Skyrim though... in book form or otherwise. Basically, my point with that listing of numbers was merely that Bethesda has never forgotten to actually write any more lore or books and I doubt they'll stop now. Since 1996, they've been providing new books with each game, and I guarantee they won't just stop with Skyrim. At the very least, I think we'll see about 90 new books, but knowing Bethesda's financial booming, recently, I think we might be in for a larger treat. If we literally don't get any books, that's going to be a problem, but I doubt Bethesda would just not write more. They seem to be attempting some interesting new implementation of books and book reading in Skyrim, so I don't see why they wouldn't provide new reading material.

All the new books, plus a mod thats add all the old books to vendors n level list, would b niffty.
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:11 am

Well, I want 1000 books in the next game, but it's not quite a realistic request. :P I've no doubt we'll get plenty of lore in Skyrim though... in book form or otherwise. Basically, my point with that listing of numbers was merely that Bethesda has never forgotten to actually write any more lore or books and I doubt they'll stop now. Since 1996, they've been providing new books with each game, and I guarantee they won't just stop with Skyrim. At the very least, I think we'll see about 90 new books, but knowing Bethesda's financial booming, recently, I think we might be in for a larger treat. If we literally don't get any books, that's going to be a problem, but I doubt Bethesda would just not write more. They seem to be attempting some interesting new implementation of books and book reading in Skyrim, so I don't see why they wouldn't provide new reading material.

exactly, personally i didnt read the books as much as i should have, but thats one of the -THINGS TO DO IN OB BEFORE SKYRIM- list.
Also, i didnt see the changes they're making to book reading, have they actually confirmed it or is that just one of those, were trying new things but wait and see kind of thing like mounts?
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:41 am

How can they possibly address it? Oblivion introduced many books to the series... second only in amount to Morrowind out of the four core games. They created many for Oblivion, and yet they still get criticized for supposedly not doing so? How can one address a complaint founded on a completely false principle and grave misconception which ignores that that which is being demanded is already there? Should they cut out all books from previous games so that people don't see them everywhere and assume their presense means no new ones were made for Skyrim? Everything about Oblivion seems majorly criticized on these foru,ms. That doesn't mean the criticisms all hold any position within fact... or reason.

In my opinion, the problem with Oblivion's books is that most of them were textbook-lore accounts of characters like the Ayleids and the Akavir. I wish the game introduced more "fun" books, like with the rude songs of Daggerfall and Morrowind or even little anecdotal accounts like Chance's Folly. Oh, and King Edward was amazing as well! Why was that never brought back?
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Post » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:48 pm

I loved reading all of the Books and Lore in both Morrowind as well as Oblivion. I agree with OP, I think they need to keep the amount of books that they had in their past two games and add even more.

The basis for this is that with all of the things that go on during the course of just one game, imagine updating the histories and stories of all of the factions during the time without an Emperor, and then the 200 years after that.

There is very much they could ad to the Lore category, and I hope to see it in game. =)

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