No More DLC for Skyrim #4 : V

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:44 am

Previous thread

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1455541-no-more-dlc-for-skyrim-3/

And we shall go on.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:07 pm

At the risk of being yelled at for bringing up New Vegas again, I'd like to draw a parallel.

The DLCs for New Vegas tell a story. Won't spoil it, but basically picture Dovahkiin vs. Miraak, but instead of Miraak just suddenly appearing in a DLC and being like "BTW I EXIST LOL," his existence is mentioned, foreshadowed and alluded to throughout the base game and the other DLCs. Finally, in the last DLC for New Vegas, Lonesome Road, the player confronts their Miraak and settles things once and for all.

Picture New Vegas if the other three DLCs existed, but Lonesome Road did not. It'd leave the Courier never confronting Ulysses while having a feeling of NEEDING to confront him, and the ending would be "And then the Courier maybe possibly Iunno confronted Ulysses someday. The End."

That's exactly what this is. You have a feeling that you NEED to overcome the Thalmor still and NEED to break free of Mora, but you don't actually get it done within gameplay. It's "And then Dovahkiin was probably Mora's [censored], and maybe possibly Iunno Skyrim repelled the Thalmor....maybe. THE END."

And that is one of Skyrim's main failings: Antagonists. Be it Alduin or Miraak, the main antagonists are never treated as characters, only as obstacles. You could literally have boulders with angry eyebrows drawn on them and it would accomplish pretty much the same thing. We know very little about them throughout the game, and somehow come out of the story knowing even less about them because of how little is done in regards to character development. They barely appear throughout the storyline, and when they do they don't really interact with the player in any sort of meaningful way. They just seem to pop up to remind you that they exist and nothing more. Each new encounter does not leave you eager to finally find them in a final battle, nor does it make you dread having to eventually face them in that last battle.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:17 am

Really? Do we need a 4th topic? We all know how it's going to end.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:05 am

Sigh, alright, here's the 2x4's, I wanna see some clean strikes on this horse.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:16 am

Told you so?

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:37 am

Honestly the mods should just leave one of these threads open like they did for the 1.9 patch.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:55 am

I will say it once again. I will have blue balls for days.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:21 am

Didn't read comment well enough but can't delete comment

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:28 am

I'm with GZA. A lot of amusemant to be had reading these.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:49 am

So Pete Hines answered my tweet.

https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/323880217317892096

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:37 am

I don't know if they had other plans and changed their minds on the go, but if I knew this would be all I'd have preferred they made just one big expansion like Shivering Isles.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:16 am

So we have to wait another two hundred years to find out what's going on with the aldmeri dominion.

You might as well quote me right now because I'm about to say it:

Elder Scrolls VI : Summerset Isle

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:50 am

Really? Do we need a 4th topic? We all know how it's going to end.

not really.... we have been [censored].... so let us rest .... cover the wounds and talk about it tomorrow...

Hope my rage dies down so quick

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 12:32 pm

So Pete Hines answered my tweet.

https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/323880217317892096

Well, technically, he DIDN'T lie. I really shouldn't laugh at that...

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:27 am

This is so.....disappointing. This game had so much potential for more DLC that will never see the light of day. Ah well all we can do now is just wait for some more patches and for the next ES game.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:37 am

Eh, I've finally crossed over to acceptance. I'm goin to enjoy Legendary difficulty, and my roleplay.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:02 am

So Pete Hines answered my tweet.

https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/323880217317892096

oh that is some great 1st april [censored]..... oh wait .... its the 15th.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:45 am

Well, technically, he DIDN'T lie. I really shouldn't laugh at that...

You aren't alone xD

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:46 am

Hmm could their decision be influenced by the fact that PS3 development was troublesome? it sure must have costed a lot of time and money to get the DLC's to work on all platforms. Maybe all those efforts ended up costing so much that they decided to move on..

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 2:56 am

From the other one.

I still don't really understand why you can pull that card for Oblivion but not Skyrim. Its the same idea, albeit for different reasons maybe. If you don't like the ending, create your own.

Fan-Fiction. Lots of fun.

Do you really not understand the difference between having a satisfying ending that was crafted for you and presented by the actual game, and having to construct something satisfying out of scattered, dangling, mediocre pieces left for you by the devs to do with what you can? Why would you even want to construct something out of the latter? If the creators themselves don't care to wrap it up...

I've been defending Bethesda's writing on quest lines because I said they were so good with metanarrative. Hm, well...

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 3:03 am

So Pete Hines answered my tweet.

https://twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/323880217317892096

I also replied to his retort.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 11:24 am

So we have to wait another two hundred years to find out what's going on with the aldmeri dominion.

You might as well quote me right now because I'm about to say it:

Elder Scrolls VI : Summerset Isle

Keep dreamin. Most the coverage Khajiit will get is a saucer of milk outside Beth HQ.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:59 pm

Really? Do we need a 4th topic? We all know how it's going to end.

Yes we do. it has annoyed alot of people because they didnt announce the final DLC when they should have done.

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:50 pm

It's done and over, nothing left to discuss but moving on really. :whistling:

» Tue Apr 16, 2013 7:07 am

You aren't alone xD

Right? Well played Mr. Hines, well played.