What with all the talk of kalpas and such I was struck by the elements of the Morrowind (Nerevar Rising) music in the official trailer. That felt very appropriate to me in that the Nords were said to have a claim on Morrowind that preceeded that of the dunmer. And the Nords and dunmer are also tied together by the battles of Red Mountain and the heart. So does the drum beat in both Morrowind and the Skyrim trailer represent the beating of the Heart? And so what part in Skyrim do you think the free Heart might play?

Perhaps Shor being a natural enemy of Alduin has manifested himself as Dragonborn again?

Nice Theory.

okies ... that leads to another somewhat rhetorical question: as the Nerevarine could have been mer, man or beastman does a spirit always have to re-incarnate as being of the same race? Clearly not so could the various PC characters in all the ES MQ stories be seen as re-incarnations of the same spirit? Accepting that Ob is only a few years after Morrowind?

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Its possible,and you can always think this is what is happening when you play your characters,but I personally doubt it - the Nerevarine is apparently alive and in Akavir by the time of Oblivion(could be a conspiracy though),and the CoC should be Sheogorath (or something similar) by the time of Skyrim (we need more information on this,but you could make up any story you wanted if you really wanted to play as the reincarnation of the CoC).Also,the Dovahkin in Skyrim is phrophised (can't spell) almost as "the one and only".While this may be because he is the last of a long line of Dragonborns it doesn't sound like that in the phrophecy.Still,you could imagine that your character reincarnates into a different body,spirit and role each game,but I don't as it sounds cliche for a hero reappearing "In a time of darkness".But,its up to you reallly.

There has been lots of heroes who's definition is that they gone, kicks [censored], and vanish when deed is done. Too late to check from it library, but i think Hans the Fox and Pelinal belongs to this class, many others as well but names don't come to my mind. Mannimarco told about this, hinting that Zurin/Underking is behind all of them. Basically this could be taken so that they all were Lorkhanine.

Nerevarine and COC could fit in this role as well.

A spirit is bound by no such law at all. I'd say who you're born at is completely random and rightly so. The wise and worthy will work through all disadvantages caused by birth location, gender, race, etc. On a level playing field, anyone can be the Big Hero. That's the American Tamrielic Dream.

The end of the Skyrim Gameplay trailer is deliciously organic. Thwub dub. Thwub dub. Though with a bit of a heart murmur.

Ha. The idea that the player is lorkhan adds a nice little meta-philosophical twist

You seem to be referring to the part imported from Morrowind - it is one of the things that made Morrowind special - and I sometimes wonder if it may be intended to be Lorkhan's heart

jdeacon

he heh - percisely ... in Morrowind maybes you freed your own heart?

Sometimes Shor gives birth to Shor who gives birth to Shor who then gives birth to Shor.

only sometimes?

Shor gives birth to many things besides. He will always give birth to a Shor but only sometimes.

In my fanfic story, my character Vedaa returns back to her home in Summerset Isle, and so the rumor that the Nerevarine went to Akavir is just that, a rumor. However, everybody believes the rumor to be true and thus, nobody believes my character is the Nerevarine, which leaves her as just another dark elf once again. She doesn't do the Oblivion story, and so I just use a random hero to fill in the role of the CoC. Now my concern with TESV's storyline is that can the Nerevarine also be the Dovahkiin? I don't see why not but I just want to see what other people think. My character was created by the Daedra & Aedra to fulfill the Nerevarine prophecy. But since the emergence of the TESV story, would it be plausible to have her creation be for the purpose to fulfill both the Nerevarine prophecy and the Dragonborn prophecy? TESIII and TESV are centered around a prophecy character. But the CoC wasn't a prophesized hero, was he? His face was in Emperor Uriel Septim's dreams, but that doesn't necessarily imply a prophecy. Perhaps it could have been a visual message from the gods that they have selected a unique individual who will help stop the Oblivion invasion. Basically, I'm just trying to patch holes to make my story make sense and be lore-correct.

We won't know until the game comes out, but I doubt there'll be anything strictly barring your character from being both the Nerevarine and Dovahkiin, considering that she is a Dark Elf who could theoretically live long enough to be both.

Lore/history will, however, remember them as different people.

An Emperor with the ability to read the future through his dreams? Sounds like a prophecy to me. Not a widely circulated one, but a prophecy nonetheless.

Lore assigns no race or gender to the Nerevarine. But lore does indicate that a bridge was dropped on him in the form of Akavir.

You could assume it's the same person if you wanted. I find that boring and therefore wrong.

I much prefer the idea of a new beginning with a humble, unskilled person. My little Nord barbarian will be ignorant of his true potential or his place in the world. As naked and ignorant as a newborn baby, and infinitely beautiful and divine as a result.

Nevevarine still had corprus disease right? If i rember correctly that made him/her next to immortal so it is very plausible that the him/her is still alive.

Looks good in u being able able to fill the holes in your story as having both the nerevarine and dovahkin as one person.

Right..

so explain the part where the Nerevarine went from being a mighty champion with the strength and intellect of ten men and dozens of powerful artifacts to some prisoner or vagabond in raggedy clothes and barely enough skill to open a can of beans with a rock.

The Tsaesci ate all the yummy reincarnation parts and memories.

They then became Nerevar. Leaving you as not-Nerevar.

The daedroth, Deus Ex Machina, cursed the nerevarine to start all over and back in jail.

That's what booze and skooma does to a man. It either kills or makes one poor [censored]. I stil-l-l-l-l-ll a-a-a-a-a-a-a-live.

Just remember, the CoC was always insane. Think about it, the CoC was a convict, a paragon of virtue, a soulless bastard, The Listener, Gray Fox, head of the Fighters Guild, head of the Mages Guild, the Hero of Kvatch, the Divine Crusader, and the Champion of Cyrodiil. It should be no shocker that the CoC is the doGdaM