Well.. Since I started playing the game there always were these CTD's but the last days... it's just awful it takes like ten CTD's before a savefile actually wants to be loaded and then it takes like 5 minutes before the game crashes again... at the moment the game is unplayable and well I just hate it... I think I've like every Patchy thing that you can use... I've the latest (v1.9) Code Project version.. have patch project v.1.6.4 and all my saves show up clean and purple in Wrye Bash and when I check to repair the saves it says there are no problems found...
Currently I'm on the point of stopping with the game and I'm just hoping one of you is able to help me.. CTD's will probably never dissapear but at least make sure it's playable again and I dont have to wait a quarter of an hour so I can play the game for five minutes....

Two questions...

One, are you using MGE?

Two, post your modlist.

Okay, that second one wasn't a question.

Anyone taking bets that MWE is involved? :whistling:




KF

I dunno, I've had similar experiences when I made the mistake of using the latest beta version of MGE instead of the latest *stable* version.

That was the second thought I had.

There have been quite a few issues I've seen with rev178. That's why I use rev161. :goodjob:

Sort of a moot point until we see the load order though.





KF

I haven't had any problems with it. Still, we should see what EgyptRaider is using.

One question... How many savegames do you have in the Morrowind\Saves folder?

Well.. then I guess that's the problem... I'm using MGE rev 178....
I'm not using MWE cuz like a year ago I indeed had the same thing cuz off MWE...

so that would mean that I can't use mel. Teleport plugin anymore? (since that's like the only reason I use this MGE version)

and BTW.. at the moment I've only 6 save files including the auto and quick save...

EDIT: The loadorder if it's still needed:
Masters for autosave.ess:
001 Morrowind.esm
002 Texture Fix 1.9.esm
003 Tribunal.esm
004 Bloodmoon.esm
005 Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
006 Bloodmoon Landscape Overhaul 1.0.esm
007 Lgnpc_SN.esp (Version 0.31)
008 Passive_Healthy_Wildlife.esp
009 entertainers.esp
010 AreaEffectArrows.esp
011 master_index.esp
012 LeFemmArmor.esp
013 EBQ_Artifact.esp
014 Beds4Rent.esp
015 Gameplay - Dialogue.esp
016 Get_Diseases_1_00.esp
017 Healers.esp
018 Thief Experience Overhaul 1.3b (Tribunal) (Combined).esp
019 Tribunbalance.esp
020 VGreetings-Hit.esp
021 AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
022 VGreetings-Thief.esp
023 NPCMove.esp
024 Tales of the Bitter Coast.esp
025 Tales of Tel Branora.esp
026 BMExtras.esp
027 Fire_Hurt_All.esp
028 Nerevarine Greeting tweaks.esp
029 Wilderness Sounds T & B.esp
030 VGreetings-Flee.esp
031 VGreetings-Idle.esp
032 VGreetings-Attack.esp
033 VGreetings.esp
034 Wooden Fort Raven Rock.esp (Version 1.0)
035 Vivec Expansion 2.0.esp
036 JCS - The Dwemeri Secret.esp
037 Less Annoying Guards - Tribunal and Bloodmoon.esp
038 P.R.E. v4.0.esp
039 Nudity Greeting Expansion V1.esp
040 Nemon's_Vivec_Interiorator.esp
041 Ships of the Imperial Navy (Bloodmoon version).esp
042 Dwemer Headache Fix.esp
043 Better Bodies.esp
044 DB_Attack_Mod.esp
045 The Abandoned Shack 1.2.esp
046 Fortified_Thirsk_1.1.esp
047 Armingers_at_Ghostgate.esp
048 Improved Cursed Items.esp
049 Unboarable Rieklings.esp
050 Clean Better Caldera.esp
051 LOCH_Cliffs_Of_Fjalding.esp
052 Realistic Weather v2.0.esp
053 Marksman Enhanced v1.2.esp
054 InterventionPlus.esp
055 ASE Tribunal Expansion.esp
056 ASE Bloodmoon Expansion.esp
057 TravelingMerchants_v2.2.esp
058 Hlaalu Rank-Adjust v1.0.esp
059 Better Solsthiem Creatures.esp
060 horationpcenhanced12-bm.esp
061 npce_mwse_patch.esp
062 k_weather.esp
063 k_sneakattack.esp
064 Ald Redaynia Extended.esp
065 IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
066 Clean Realistic Ashpits.esp
067 Thieves Guild Fences.esp
068 vibrant trees 2.0.esp
069 LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp (Version 1.10)
070 LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
071 LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
072 Vality's Ascadian Isles Addon.esp
073 Drug Realism.esp
074 LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp (Version 1.32)
075 The Neverhalls.esp
076 mhrb - godsreach.esp
077 Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.esp
078 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
079 LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
080 LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp (Version 1.22)
081 LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
082 LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp (Version 2.10)
083 LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
084 LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp (Version 1.30)
085 LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp (Version 1.51)
086 LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp (Version 1.20)
087 CR Gnisis Expanded 1.0.esp
088 Clean The Masks of the Gods.esp
089 Piratelords Trade Enhancements.esp
090 Pursuit Enhanced.esp
091 Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
092 Hold it - SF npc addon.esp
093 BTB - Character.esp
094 BTB - Spells.esp
095 BTB - Alchemy.esp
096 BTB - Equipment.esp
097 BTB - Settings.esp
098 The Tribe Unmourned.esp
099 The Sable Dragon 1.6.esp (Version 1.6)
100 Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
101 MDP Compilation.ESP
102 Khuul Expanded.esp
103 TC_SadrithMoraClosed.esp
104 mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
105 Protective Guards.esp
106 MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
107 Advanced Alchemy.esp
108 Animated_Morrowind - Expanded.esp
109 Minor Dwemer Fixes.esp
110 Animated Morrowind II.esp
111 Scout's Services 3.esp
112 Wolli's_solthseim_MRM.esp

All righty, it's good news/bad news time.

Good news: reverting to the latest stable build of MGE *should* stop your game from crashing like a Russian spacecraft on re-entry.

Bad news: I seem to recall having to do a total uninstall/reinstall of Morrowind to clear the beta MGE. I'm pretty sure that it stores something in the registry (MGE, that is) which can only be undone by removing it manually - or, at least that was my experience with it. You may need to ask in the MGE thread on that one.

I too used to use MGE only for Melian's teleport mod.

I originally used rev118 and it worked perfectly with MTM, but it didn't have some of the features I wanted after I upgraded my PC. I switched to rev161 and haven't had any trouble at all with it.

You're the second person I've tried to help with rev178. The other person had it running just fine for a couple of weeks, then all of a sudden and for no reason, it quit working. Hopefully you'll be able to remove rev178 with no issues. I'd highly recommend rev161. I've had no issues with it and it seems to actually run much faster than rev118. Rev118, btw, is as far back as you can go and still use MTM. You could also use the stand-alone MWSE and drop MGE completely.

Good luck. I hope you can get it sorted out without too much trouble. :foodndrink:





KF

Are you loading a save made in an exterior cell? I never could get those to load unless I first loaded up one made in an interior cell.