As I said before:

I have no problem with slightly Imperialised Dunmer voice, but that Oblivion attempt was laughable at best. Oh, sorry, there wasn't even an attempt, because they just gave the elves the same voice.

I'm sort-of confused by this... why do people want all Dunmer to act in the same "get-out-of-my-face" way if they aren't in Morrowind?

Once they've gone to any other place, they're the "outsiders". They've the ones who were willing to change and become outlanders and become a part of a country other than Morrowind. Those kinds of people would be less "get-out-of-my-face", but there were hardly any Dunmer who sat there smiling giddily like "Hello friend! Wonderful day we're having!".

There are Dunmer in the game who say they hate the chapel-going Imperials, there are Dunmer who say "Back in Morrowind I was taught an-eye-for-an-eye" and want to brutally murder a guard, there are those that tell you to get away from them before they kill you, there are those that own Ogre slaves, there are Dunmer that laugh and tell you to metaphorically "Stick it to the gods" and kill all of Kynareth's creations... But apparently they're too "rainbow-y".

I'm sort-of confused. Yes, the voice didn't suit them, but their personalities still reflected their culture. Just like there were plenty of pompous Altmer, crazy Bosmer, athletics-obsessed Redguards, "smash you with a hammer" Orcs, etc.

Their voices should be like the ones in Morrowind, I liked those. But the E3 one sounded like he'd been gargling glass and then drank some vinegar for added effect.

That is the whole point of this thread...

People were saying they were "happy rainbow elves". I didn't get that part... maybe that was in another thread, there are so many being brought up that I don't know one from the other anymore.

:banghead: You're impossible. You see the same phenomenon in two games and come to radically different conclusions for each. There's no way for me to counter that without devolving into caps-lock profanity, so this is where I'll stop. That doesn't validate your argument, but it's not worth the headache.

EDIT: Also, I wonder if you even read my posts before you respond...

Well, the developers were god-like beings who always worked hard during Morrowind's development, but they became a bunch of lazy, moronic mortals during Oblivion's development. It's obvious.

It is because of the voice. It's generic and it just doesn't fit the Dunmer. It's not a modified version of Morrowind's one. It's just the same voice other elves use.

That would be me. While I don't expect them to be so xenophobic, and hating on every outlander they see when they're outside Morrowind, I still want them to have that Dunmer feeling about them. Not neccessarily the same "angry" mer they where in Morrowind, but not loving and accepting of everyone they meet. It's a racial trait, afterall. I mean, it's a trait similar to the Altmer. I imagine the Altmer are pretty much the same as Morrowind's Dunmer in Summerset. Yet, look at their portrayal in Morrowind. They still find themselves better than everyone else, and ofte refer to you as some lower being. For example "I suppose it is my duty to help those... less fortunate than myself" was a common Altmer greeting.

Imo, the whole of Oblivion was far too happy. I mean, the Altmer where rarely as seen in previous games. I rarely saw an altmer think he was far superior to me in the same blatant way as normally. I don't think anyone can deny that, surely?

BUT. I do expect them to have voices like in Morrowind. The voices weren't due to the wastelands of Morrowind, they were due to the curse from Azura.

Even if you do want to go by this silly excuse, they still shouldn't sound anything like they do in Oblivion. I want them to sound like a typical bad guy in films. For example, one that's pretty fresh in my mind, Nero from the recent Star Trek movie would have been great. I'm not suggesting expensive actors, just good ones.

In short - they should not sound like sissies, but like badasses they were in Morrowind. Maybe they are defanged now. Maybe some of them are more Imperialised. Maybe they will become extinct in the future. They are still the Dunmer, though.

:rofl: bow before my master-debation skillz.

And I wonder if anyone here reads my posts before responding, cause everybody here, including you takes me out of context every time I post. It goes both ways bud, but yes I read your post. But your argument makes no sense, "they didn't wanna take the time to make new voices for Mournhold Dunmer, but yet they did anyway for unique greetings."


:slap: No, you got it wrong. The developers knew nothing about anything when they made Morrowind and suddenly they transcended god-hood while making Oblivion. Goes both ways boys.

I agree completely. To be honest, Oblivion felt too mundane, at least compared to Morrowind. I cringe when a Dunmer walks by and says, "good day!" or "nice weather we're having!" Yes, they're no longer in their home province - they're not the ones in control. But when I think of their race I think of hard-workers, people who prize obligation and duty above all else. Not the extroverted freaks in Cyrodiil.

I understand what you mean. I don't think the voices had to do with the wastelands, otherwise everybody else would have sounded different too, and if they had that much dust in their lungs they'd probably be dead.

I completely get the voice part. It isn't very "Dunmeri" to say "If you'll excuse me, I don't have time for you right now. Or ever." as a rude greeting, they're more gruff than that. It sounds kind-of like something a more regal and dignified person would say. But they had a few greetings like "What hole did you crawl out of?" or "Spit it out or hit the road.", that suited Dunmer pretty well.

I don't know what to count on concerning the voices though. On one hand because of all of the characters they might have (meaning hundreds) an "Oblivion" type of system where the whole race sounds the same, and on the other hand they might have a "Fallout 3" type of a system where there are a few generic voices and then voice actors will also voice specific people.


Many people in Oblivion were a little too friendly. People would say "Hi! How are you?!" to you every time you passed by. It's like "Okay guys, this is great and all, but if you could just leave me alone...". I'd like it better if the greetings were only there if you stood around for a long time or if you were facing them instead of them turning around like you called their name.

When you're from a blight-infected ashland constantly getting ash-storms and living in fear of death, you'll enjoy the weather in Cyrodil.

But yeah, I respected Altmer in Morrowind more than in Oblivion. Actually, weren't Altmer the rarest race in Morrowind?

http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Demographics Which made their attitude even more meaningful.

Who's the one altmer in Bloodmoon? Must be a lucky guy/girl

That would be http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Bloodmoon:Athellor.

I think the pompous English voice wouldn't be too bad on male Bosmer in the next game, though. Gives them a Cheshire Cat-esque quality. :ninja:

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I liked the Elven voice for the Bosmer (maybe the Altmer).

The Dunmer female voice was good (same as the last game), but it didn't really suit Bosmer or Altmer women very well.

When ever I hear the female Elf voice for Oblivion I always think of an old grandma even though they may be young. I hope instead of having voices divided by race, they divide it up so they're are several voices for each age group.

:shrug: That's what they did in FO3, so chances are pretty high.

Desmond from Fallout 3 is pretty much the Dark Elf's voice spoken in full dialog.

I always just saw the oblivion Dumner as more imperialized. Therefore they sound more like the other elves than the ashlanders.

No, they sound EXACTLY the same. Besides, there were actually few Ashlanders in Vvardenfell.

And not to mention the Dunmer on mainland Morrowind have similar raspy voices, it's not a bi-product of ash people, it's genetic.

I hated how in Oblivion I could not hear the difference between the Mer. That just made me want to scream!
Therefore I hate the Oblivion Dunmer in a double way:
1. They do not have the raspy voice of theirs.
2. They sound just like the Altmer or Bosmer.

So, BRING BACK THE MORROWIND VOICES!
And bring back more voice-acters! Atleast two/race (one female, one male)! And Scottish accent to the Nords!