However the voices are certainly a physiological trait, rather than a regional trait, as shown in Tribunal.

Also, people actually haven't been living in Vvardenfell for long. According to the lore, Vvardenfell was a retreat for the tribunal temple for a long time before it was finally opened for colonization. The non-dunmer citizens of Morrowind have probably been living there for about as long. Why do some of them not have gravely voices too?

Thus the Morrowind dunmer voice is essentially a trait, not a symptom.

This.

Morrowinds voices fit, and sounded right.

However, I would be less upset with Oblivion voices, if (like everyone said) not EVERY elf race had the same VA. Variety please.

It's hard to decide what's canon and what can be chalked up to Bethesda not wanting to hire more VAs.

I'm pretty sure that it can be said for certain that the three elf races don't sound exactly the same. I mean while we're at it lets try to cover up the other lazy things, the akiviri soldiers, Mannimarco, Sutch, etc.

But I digress, I sincerely don't see how it's hard to tell that everyone talking the same is not canon.

This :wink_smile:

I would rationally assume that the reason for the rasp that laces the dunmeri voices would be due in part of Azura and Boethia's curse upon the chimer, which changed them into the dunmer; the rasp, along with the ashen complexion with various shades and tones, and the red-eyes, are all the noticeable manifestations of the curse. This might be just conjecture and speculation on my part, but it seems to make the most logical sense to me when delivered from a stand-point rooted in lore.

That being said, when I went back and looked up the dunmer in TES IV E3 demo, back in 2005, I cannot help but understand why they would not use that voice for the dunmer: it would wear rather heavily on the player if the individual had to deal with it on a daily basis. That being said, I don't even think that that voice even appropriately reflected the same type of rasp observed in TES III. A raspy voice does not necessarily require a voice that reflects solid rough gravel, rather it asks for a particular voice with arid and parched inflections in it, or a voice with subtle rough edges (in which case, subtle gravel). Think of Jeremy Irons (I always think back to "Kingdom of Heaven"). I think he fits this description of a raspy voice (a suave one, but a raspy one at that). Of course, due his English accent, he would probably have been a most well suited person to lend his voice to the more imperialized dunmer, reflecting the civility of Cyrodiil's cosmopolitan culture. Then again...as I said his voice is so suave. Maybe too suave...

Eh...My opinion still stands.

To be honest, it's also a dialogue thing. Imo, Valen Dreth was the best Dunmer in Oblivion, because he wasn't a Happy Rainbow Elf. He was a racist, and hated even other Dunmer. while he was still facepalm worthy, due to that voice, he wasn't quite as bad as the others.

That is very true. Aside from the colors and heights, there is nothing to distinguish the elves. It's horribly generic. They need individual cultures like in Morrowind.

Wouldn't it be an issue of disk space?

I agree wholeheartedly - as I said earlier, even if they fail to reinstate the Morrowind voice, I'd like their personality to return. I wouldn't even attribute the raspy voice to ash so much as I would to the psychological position of most of the Dunmer. They are a morose people, outcast by their elven brethren and hail from a harsh, relentless environment. Life isn't in the least bit Hedonistic to the Dunmer - to them, hard work and discipline are the only ways to get anywhere. Duty and honor to the Great Houses and to your family are of the utmost importance, and with all this in mind there is little time for games. Nearly every Dunmer in Morrowind whom had a sufficient amount of dialog was hard-set on some task, a scholar, a priest, and disciplined messenger and servant to their lord.

The Dunmer in Oblivion were just disgustingly free by comparison.


I hope the Nords in TES V are more Scottish as well, instead of some overused, generic blonde haired blue eyes Scandinavian crap you saw all over Bruma. The male voice in Oblivion reminded me of a less-raspy Fred Flintstone. :mellow:

I like Morrowinds dunmer more in every way. I also think they looked more wirey and buff in morowind (all races). I would like them to look more elvish in the next game I love dunmer in morrowind but in oblivion I hate them.

They got the guy that voiced the morrowind dunmer to voice a ghoul in Fallout 3, why not bring him back for his best role?

More likely than not they won't have the same person for every character in TES:V. :shrug:

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Anyway, lore-wise it mentions how Dunmer outside of Morrowind are much friendlier than their native-born counterparts. I think that had a lot to do with the change in personality.

Maybe they will. BTW check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL8pyOP0VQI

He also voiced Haskill in SI.

Just a rubbish excuse. They've done that plenty of times in Oblivion. I don't think I've actually saw so many cop outs in one game. Do you really think that Oblivion's portrayal of Dunmer should stay in TESV?

Lots of thread being raised from the fiery depths of the underworld today, I see.


Oh, not that... That video embodies pretty much all I hate about Oblivion.

But, to be MAJORLY fair, the mer in Oblivion even look like happy rainbow elves. I can't imagine those Dunmer talking awesomly. It looks so out of place in the demo. Then again, that may just be because I'm so used to the happy rainbow elf voice.

Is it just me, or does that voice actually sound quite different to the ones in Morrowind?

I too think that the Dunmer voice in that vid sounds like someone doing an impression of the Morrowind Dunmer. It just feels...Off...Not quite there, if you get what I'm saying.

While we're on the topic of cool, unique voices, Bethesda, please keep the male Imperial voice from Oblivion.

Aside from "[Todds] new fast travel map". What else in this video do you hate?
Personaly, I thought the meant-to-be Radiant AI was really cool.


Now that I think about it, yeah, they must of been still working on the voices.
And they had to get someone to fake the voice for E3.
Just thought of this, Maybe the guy from morrowind couldn't come back or something.

:shrug: I think it was mentioned before Oblivion. I don't think it should stay in TES:V, but they're less "traditional" outside of Morrowind, according to Lore. That's all I was pointing out.


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No! I won't be the target of your fire related games! :flamed:


Didn't he do other voices in Oblivion? I think I saw in a thread around here, just a few minute ago that he voiced Sheogorath... Is that correct? He also voiced a ghoul in Fallout. I doubt he was unavailable for just those few months between games.

And am I the only one who actually likes the Imperial voices of Morrowind? They sound very... Imperial, to me. Sort of how I'd imagine a Roman in an english film.

He voiced Haskill (Wes Johnson voiced Sheogorath, not Baker) in SI, and Desmond in PL.

He voiced Haskill, but no one else in anything Oblivion related, that I know of. The guy who voiced Sheogorath in SI also voiced Pelinal Whitestrake, other male Imperials, and Dremora, but not Morrowind's male Dunmer.

He voiced Haskill, but the voice for the ghoul sounds the closest to his dark-elf voice.

Actually, http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond