Morrowind Dunmer vs Oblvion Dunmer : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:28 pm

No! I won't be the target of your fire related games! :flamed:

I didn't want a flame war. I respect your opinion despite contesting it often.

Didn't he do other voices in Oblivion? I think I saw in a thread around here, just a few minute ago that he voiced Sheogorath... Is that correct? He also voiced a ghoul in Fallout. I doubt he was unavailable for just those few months between games.

It definately was the guy who voiced imperials that voice Sheogorath.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:48 pm

Actually, http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Desmond

Desmond was my favorite Ghoul!

They've gotta bring him back, he's been in 3 of their games.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 3:54 pm

I think it may have been Haskill, you guys... :wink_smile:

I didn't want a flame war. I respect your opinion despite contesting it often.

I get lost in the numerous war threads. If you like, I can tell you, though...

Dunmer Voices
Radient AI
Cities aren't closed off
My personal first look at the cliché Oblivion
Fast Travel
Better quests. Kvatch starts as a rumour. I love that.
The removal of Sutch
Graphics are far better than seen in Oblivion
NPC's have meaningful conversations
NPC's use eachother's names
Skill potions

This is all just off the top of my head. I might find more if I watch it again, but it burns my eyes... :cryvaultboy:

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:36 am

I think it may have been Haskill, you guys... :wink_smile:

I get lost in the numerous war threads. If you like, I can tell you, though...

Dunmer Voices
Radient AI
Cities aren't closed off
My personal first look at the cliché Oblivion
Fast Travel
Better quests. Kvatch starts as a rumour. I love that.
The removal of Sutch
Graphics are far better than seen in Oblivion
NPC's have meaningful conversations
NPC's use eachother's names
Skill potions

This is all just off the top of my head. I might find more if I watch it again, but it burns my eyes... :cryvaultboy:

Guess what? I agree with you on these matters. Look at the shape of Anvil btw.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:33 pm

NPC's have meaningful conversations

"I saw a mudcrab the other day..."

"NO!"

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:34 pm

Guess what? I agree with you on these matters. Look at the shape of Anvil btw.

Hmm... Something strange is going on. Threads are being peaceful all of a sudden.

Holy crap, look at the time! :eek:

It's so late it's early. Damn you Bethesda Forums, depraving me of sleep! Everyone, stop making progress on threads while I'm away. Gets kinda irritating when I miss out on the debate

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:54 pm

"I saw a mudcrab the other day..."

"NO!"

:rofl:
"[That usual one about daedra attacking Kvatch]"

"NO!"

"Yes."[In a-matter-of fact type voice]

"I saw a mudcrab the other day...."

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:09 pm

Hmm... Something strange is going on. Threads are being peaceful all of a sudden.

Holy crap, look at the time! :eek:

It's so late it's early. Damn you Bethesda Forums, depraving me of sleep! Everyone, stop making progress on threads while I'm away. Gets kinda irritating when I miss out on the debate

Alright, everybody, he's gone!

Discussion starts... NOW!

Ok... Real dialog between 2 Imperial guards.

"Any news from the other provinces?"
"Nothing I want to talk about."
"I've heard others say the same."
"Get away from me..."
"Bye."

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:09 am

"I saw a mudcrab the other day..."

"NO!"

That gets me every time. :lol:

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:32 pm

"I saw a mudcrab the other day..."

"NO!"

Ah, don't get me started on the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhqag9lFHF0&feature=related in Oblivion.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:49 am

Hmm... Something strange is going on. Threads are being peaceful all of a sudden.

Holy crap, look at the time! :eek:

It's so late it's early. Damn you Bethesda Forums, depraving me of sleep! Everyone, stop making progress on threads while I'm away. Gets kinda irritating when I miss out on the debate

Nobody will be able to have a debate because first few pages will be spammed with dead topics.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:56 am

While we're on the topic of cool, unique voices, Bethesda, please keep the male Imperial voice from Oblivion.

Whilst the voice in Oblivion had far more personality to it, it's more or less been permanently imprinted in my mind to make me think of guards whenever I hear it.

Well okay, Morrowind's Imperial voice did that too. But they were less frighteningly memetic. :mellow:

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:29 am

Whilst the voice in Oblivion had far more personality to it, it's more or less been permanently imprinted in my mind to make me think of guards whenever I hear it.

Notice Imperials were never the smugglers or skooma dealers....

"Hey man, you got the stuff?"

"Sure do, criminal scum."

"What?"

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:00 am

Whilst the voice in Oblivion had far more personality to it, it's more or less been permanently imprinted in my mind to make me think of guards whenever I hear it.

Well okay, Morrowind's Imperial voice did that too. But they were less frighteningly memetic. :mellow:

I've had everyday imperials walk up to me and call me "citizen".

Notice Imperials were never the smugglers or skooma dealers....

"Hey man, you got the stuff?"

"Sure do, criminal scum."

"What?"

The funniest thing is I can completely imagine that happening.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:20 am

There should be a special easter egg mode in TES V that causes various strange things to happen. One of them would be to make Imperials always address others as criminal scum.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:07 pm

There should be a special easter egg mode in TES V that causes various strange things to happen. One of them would be to make Imperials always address others as criminal scum.

I wonder if an imperial guard would call another imperial guard a criminal scum.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:49 pm

I wonder if an imperial guard would call another imperial guard a criminal scum.

Along with Dunmer calling other Dunmer Outlanders, Argonians calling each other pondscum, Khajiit calling each other house cats, and Bretons looking in the mirror saying to themselves: "I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:41 am

That always annoyed me. "Uh, I'm dressed exactly like you and in terms of appearance I could be your brother. How exactly can you tell at first glance that I'm an outlander?"

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:34 pm

That always annoyed me. "Uh, I'm dressed exactly like you and in terms of appearance I could be your brother. How exactly can you tell at first glance that I'm an outlander?"

It's all Accent. Though I'm confused in the real Jiub's case. Maybe he was born in morrowind and sent to the imperial prison, then back again.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:45 am

I don't know, the low voice meant they couldn't have a real battle cry, only the women.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:32 pm

I loved MW's crispy, raspy Dunmer voices and their GET-OUT-OF-MY-FUC****-WAY attitude. Oblivion deprived them of their personality by changing them. It suxx because a Dunmer in E3 presentation had a fitting voice.

Besides, it seems that because of voice-acting (amount of text) Oblivion cut the amount of voice types severely, with various races "overlapping" each other (Dunmer-Altmer, Nord-Orc etc.).

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:57 pm

There should be a special easter egg mode in TES V that causes various strange things to happen. One of them would be to make Imperials always address others as criminal scum.

I can have my "HALT!" back?

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 9:26 am

I loved MW's crispy, raspy Dunmer voices and their GET-OUT-OF-MY-FUC****-WAY attitude. Oblivion deprived them of their personality by changing them. It suxx because a Dunmer in E3 presentation had a fitting voice.

Besides, it seems that because of voice-acting (amount of text) Oblivion cut the amount of voice types severely, with various races "overlapping" each other (Dunmer-Altmer, Nord-Orc etc.).

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheyChangedItNowItsvcks

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:51 pm

I felt there should have been at least a few raspy voiced Dunmer who came from Morrowind to Cyrodiil.

» Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:56 am

I loved MW's crispy, raspy Dunmer voices and their GET-OUT-OF-MY-FUC****-WAY attitude. Oblivion deprived them of their personality by changing them. It suxx because a Dunmer in E3 presentation had a fitting voice.

That's just it - some people think that the Dunmer voice in Morrowind was unrealistically arrogant and would get annoying in fully voiced dialog. The thing is, unless Bethesda is giving a unique voice to every single NPC in the game, you can choose between everyone being a mild-mannered Oblivion Dunmer or everyone being a total badass Morrowind Dunmer.

I want the extreme Dunmer back. If TES V is in Skyrim, I'd expect most of the Dunmer there to be from around Morrowind and be the native-born, unimperialized sorts.