It may not be the rock causing the boiling, but the wide, open bore into Vvardenfell.

A wide opened boar? Ewww

yeah, when the rock smashed in. it probably cracked open some of the volcanic vents. and now the bay is like one gigantic hot spring.

Was that exact wording used? Because I can think of a certain way in which the Nord might help the Dunmer "get back on their feet".

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Okay, same words, but still: two words.

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How far does the damage of Red Mountain's eruption go? Does it also include the mainland?

What interests me is what happened to the Great Houses and cities on Vvardenfell. Ald'Ruhn was sacked during the Oblivion Crisis, so the Redorans probably had less of a presence on the island during the 40 years leading up to Red Mountain's eruption. That may have been a blessing in disguise, as most of the Redoran controlled lands were really close to the Volcano, giving whatever people still living there very little time to react. The Hlaalu's were on good terms with the Imperials, so I could imagine that they've emigrated to Cyrodiil, along with the outlanders living there.

House Dres is farthest away from the Mountain, but because of their past regarding Slavery, they've probably been the forefront of the Argonian's conquest. So I imagine that the rest of the population were the ones that went to Solstheim. The Ashlanders could have been wiped out, but a few surviving tribes might be living in the inhospital wastes. The Nerevarine's technically immortal, and at the end of MW, Vivec's alive (killing him ingame is non-canon, because Vivec disappeared during the Oblivion crisis) so they might play a role in re-taking the province from the invaders.

That's my understanding of the situation, at least.

Plus, we know from the loveletter that some of the dunmer hid underground, so there may be more survivors.

Sudden thought: House Sul is the house on Solstheim right (in the loveletter that is)? So these guys have experienced kindness from the nords. If House Jaroon are mainlander Dunmer, they won't have - they'll have been living underground the whole time. So perhaps, in the future, House Sul will be progressive, non-racist dunmer, maybe even adapting some parts of nordic culture, while House Jaroon will keep some of the older traditions alive (after all, they have no reason to like non-dunmer, and living underground will have isolated them greatly).

I think that's a fascinating idea and I hope it or something similar to it turns out to be in future games.

It might even divide the Dunmer people into another sub race, increasing the amount of playable races. I would imagine living in harsher or more hospitable conditions over several generations would begin to breed certain traits into a race of people in similar ways to our own world. Maybe the House Jaroon will be like traditionalist Dunmer on steroids whereas House Sul adopts more Imperial and Nord qualities.

There weren't 40 years between the Oblivion Crisis and the Red Year. The Moon fell several years after the Crisis (I'm guessing around five years, probably not as many as ten years). The novel is set in the fourth decade of the new era, but we're told that the Scathing Bay near the location of the former Vivec City has been boiling for 30 or 40 years.

We haven't been told yet how much of the mainland survived. I hope the second book will say more, but maybe we'll have to wait for a TES V.

Redsayn can't be gone!

I WANT THIS BOOK

Mmmm, I like that idea. The Dunmer culture is far to unique (despite being so stagnant) to just be completely thrown out of TES. This is a pretty good compromise and sounds rather plausible. Perhaps there could be other remnants as well, aside from underground mainland and Solstheim Dunmer. Port Telvannis comes to mind, perhaps the Telvanni could remain, or be under a new name like Sul and Jaroon.

It's not quite as strong as that of the larger Dunmer populations that likely exist in Solstheim and the mainland, but some Dunmer culture remains among the Dunmer of Cyrodiil. Many are assimilated, but some are likely to have brought their culture with them. I also wouln't be too surprised if some survivors wandered over to Cyrodiil. Cheydinhal is supposed to be a Dunmer-oriented city. Does it still exist? Perhaps other Morrowind-esque settlements may pop up in Cyrodiil. If this is the case, than at least 4 different types of Dunmer culture may exist due to isolation from each other.

Indeed, a kind of honorable warrior nordic/Redoran-esque seems pretty likely for Solstheim and House Sul, and this is all theory, but maybe a slaving, traditional House Jaroon, a Telvanni culture if Port Telvannis stands still, due to isolation. And a more Imperialized Dunmer of eastern Cyrodiil.

Would be interesting to see in any case. :shrug:

I haven't read the book, yet, so I'm not completely aware of all the details, but how have the borders of certain provinces(other than Morrowind and Black Marsh) changed? Is Cyrodiil any larger/smaller? What about Skyrim?

House Jaroon is based in Solstheim (New North), Sul most likely Morrowind.

Gah, I hate change. Poor Dunmer. Probably all killed by the Rieklings.

According to the Loveletter from the 5th Era, the Dunmer are alive and well many, many years from now. If anything, the Rieklings probably end up extinct, or near it. I don't imagine people like the Dunmer tolerating such creatures. Although, there is something to be said for the fact that they're not well-suited to the cold, and even the mer that were got wiped out.

I wonder what happens to Raven Rock...

It has been abandoned since Oblivion, due to a lack of profits to sustain the town.

Yeah, but if the Telvanni Isles survive, they'll be even more isolationist than ever

do you reckon the skaal will help them or get annoyed


also, this could be the next TES game, skyrim/morrowind+solstheim

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The Skaal will probably help the Dunmer, showing them how to build for a northern climate, how to hunt and gather food, and so on. As I've posted before, there are many traditional cultures in our own world to whom hospitality is sacred, including the Celts, the Scandinavians, the ancient Greeks, and the Bedouin. When the Skaal are faced with a desperate mass of refugees, most of them probably traumatized from losing their families and ancestral homeland, they may well do the right thing and help the Dunmer survive.