Skyrim will be Skyrim.

Ack, more OB vs MW. :banghead:

All the ground on this topic has been covered more than a hundred times, do we really need more?

I have just started playing Morrowind for the first time after putting it off since just after Oblivion came out. I have the code patch, graphics extender, texture packs and better heads and bodies and it's good, but there is some things that svck.

Morrowind good points (so far):

Weapons and armor (lots!)
Varied landscape.
Towns and cities are really refreshing.
Quests and people are intesting (when I can do be bothered to read).
No quest markers so I have to use my brain (this is sometimes annoying though).
Varied enemies.
Varied dungeons.
No crazy level scaling so tactics are mandatory.
Seems to be more ingredients and items too find.
Spells and magic.

Morrowind bad points( so far):

Journal (wtf)
Combat is terrible and frustrating at low levels. Still terrible at any level I assume.
If I can't figure out a quest it gets frustrating.
Dialogue takes too long to read. I want to relax not sit next to my screen with backache.
Non-capital topics in dialogue while the rest start with capitals (just immersion breaking).
Cliffracers and slaugterfish!
Enemies EVERY 10 feet.
Starting run speed svcks.
Takes ages to get around even with stiltsriders (can get annoying when I want to get somewhere quick without being mauld).
Dumb AI (I'll just steal your belongings while you stand there).
No AI routines like sleeping and sandboxing.
No real physics.

That is so far. I do see myself getting bored with this game soon. Sure Oblivion has it's flaws, but if Skyrim could combine
the best of both games and leave out the bad, it would no doubt be the best game ever.

and yet daggerfall was equally as rare, infact NO game will ever compare to it in size and options.
arena was the begining of it all, and pretty much defined this style of RPG.
id say it was fair to hype up oblivion.

honestly tho, its oblivions art style that annoys me.

it has been said many times and i hold this to be accurate.

oblivion has the better gameplay, morrowind was the better game. if you could swap morrowinds content into oblivions shell, tes3 would've been unplayable and tes4 would have destroyed the gaming industry. no need to make new games this one prefected it.

morrowind was bigger feeling, it felt more epic and that what you were doing was more important. in oblivion you often felt rushed, every dialogue ended in urgency, so you felt it was urgent. even if you could leave it six months and still do it. but combat was better, blocking manually added so much to combat and the fast/power strike system added some tactical play even if a little it was more than morrowind ever dreamed of. lockpicking was far better in oblivion. dialogue and speechcraft skill were much better in oblivion. although i miss taunting people into a fight. safeguarding important npc's and fast travel are much better. despite the numerous complaints to the contrary on this board i doubt the silent majority believes walking a kilometre to a silt strider then taking two more again to get somewhere you need to go was good gameplay. some of us do have things to do other than TES

so as i and many others have said the game of morrowind with the gameplay of oblivion would be godly. lets hope bethesda were paying attention.

Skyrim for Skyrim.

Oblivion vs. Morrowind - It's like fighting over which one of your children is better.

This made me laugh :lmao:

If you haven't noticed each TES game has been very different. Almost to the point where comparing them to each other is really a moot point. The only thing that keeps them together is the lore/world.

Nah. Firstborn

then why on earth are you playing?

well actually i was implying the exact opposite...
sorry if you misunderstood.

but really if you think about it, you hand a person who has been a hermit his whole life and knows nothing about video games (lets assume he would know how to play) a controller and tell him to play oblivion for a day then morrowind for a day, he's going to think oblivion is better. you can't really get around the argument that in a primitive sense oblivion is a better game. my opinion is that if you think morrowind (as a whole) is better, you would have had to over think that for a period of time.

the fact is that on paper, morrowind is better because it has more items and weapon types(spears) and speech options. and we all know that what "hardcoe" rpg fans like is more of everything and spears. pretty much, if you split up those three elements (more items, more weapon types, more speech options) into one main theme, that would be numbers. and if you love big numbers so much just count to four billion; you will still probably not be considered major loss to society.

anyways, in practice oblivion is better. don't get me wrong, i don't like what they dumbed down in oblivion and there is really no reason for it. but the minute to minute gameplay is just way better. and wouldn't you agree that in a video game gameplay is somewhat important? oblivion improved on a lot more than what some people give it credit for too. and the numbers are still there so i don't see what there is to complain about.

Pretty much my opinion to, Morrowind had a better atmosphere and geographically the game world felt more real. Loved the three houses you could join. Liked the main quest better than Oblivion as it was more in the background and a solo quest.
Downside was that combat was boring, it was very unbalanced in that pure mages had to use one of the most powerful exploits in any videogame to work, problem was that it made them demigods, on the plus side it was terrible fun.

MW vs OB, again. Don't compare the two, it's useless, they are simply different from each other.

Do you think OB combat system is better? For you, it may be better if you like a more action combat system, but for another person MW hit&miss style may be better. Want action, then OB is better. Want a more classical RPG combat style? Then MW will be your choice.

You can talk about shortcomings for each games. About OB I could tell about that absurd level scaling and lack of hand-placed loot that makes exploration very boring and almost useless. About MW I could tell about the fact that NPCs hasn't their own lives like OB (or even like Daggerfall!!). Only to cite a few shortcomings.

However, I replayed vanilla MW a few times before modding it. Afetr the first playthrough in OB, instead, I was so bored that I needed to mod it right away to enjoy it more.

oh hey look tenpenny tower has an internet connection

its not gonna be Morrowind, its not gonna be Oblivion
it is called SKYRIM, not Morrowind 2 or Oblivion 2, it is in fact ES 5
also I would be happy if they continued the trend from Morrowind to Oblivion, Oblivion was actually pretty good, the only reason it gets such harse criticism is because it was the last ES

So, Arena? Arena's going off to college, soon.

We all are. Some like one better than the other. One's preference of one over the other does not make them more special or enlightened and always serves to flame and flamebait one another. We have threads in the "TES Series" of section of this forum where this is already being discussed. All Comparison threads for TES games belong in that section just as all Fallout threads that compare one Fallout game with another belong in the "Fallout Series" secttion.

It's just nice so many folks have been pleased with each game in the series and here we all just get along because....that's the way we roll.