[WIPz] Morrowind Overhaul - Game Experience : III - Morrowind

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:12 pm

Yeah Glubby's. I had some issues with a couple Chargen mods along with some other older mods (one of which can't be discussed here).

It also has the unfortunate issue of having been merged so you can't use the various plugins

Actually, even though it's merged, Gluby left in the commented customize script so you can fool around with it and as far as I know, the plugins should work. I have personally tried the fairly easy and fairly hard plugins to check them out although I ended up making my own edited version.
Sorry to hear you had some problems; I know others have too but not me fortunately.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:00 am

Creatures X has one major annoying issue...the silly bugs/rats it spawns all over the towns. Fix that and I'd use it again for sure.

GCD presents some issues, due to the state it was left in. I'm running a version pulled from the thread on these forums, but it still has some issues.

Can't say enough about Darknuts GDR.

I wouldn't play without GCD. It's an excellent mod, but I don't know if I would recommend it to everyone. I think you really have to be willing to open it up and tinker with settings in the CS to really get the best of it. I've toned magicka regen way down (my warrior character doesn't regen a full magicka bar within 1 game day, with NoM's longest day length setting) and my skill leveling speed is also very low to keep my character from getting strong quickly. It's a great mod, but if you want to play a superman-esque character it's going to prevent it. I'd certainly recommend it as optional though.

CreaturesX, GCD and NoM are all optional

I guess this means I should hurry up and finish the update for my mod I'm working on

Yes, if you still want that beautiful redhead I have for you lol

Do we have an ETA for the release, KINGPIX?

Hmmm, it's too early to say that

Sorry for the shameless plug, but would you consider my http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=4970 for part of the compilation?

Ok, I'll try it! ^^

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:07 pm

You need to add Cait's Squirrels to the list

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:49 am

Here's a little preview of what we planned to include in this compilation:
(Watch out, it's quite big)

Spoiler

Dialogues:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=9028
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=878
Quick NOTE: LGNPC won't be included because of its complexity. (Not sure about that, because I got all the permissions, but I'll see)

Interacion with NPCs:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6859

Beginning of the game:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=3061 (Optional, a good idea is to use it with NoM or Morrowind Crafting)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6581 (Optional)

Character Development:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=2030 (Optional)
http://adul.net/?p=dl_mwmods_training_limit

Vital Activities:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=4077 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8707 (Optional)

Companions:
http://lovkullen.net/Emma/Constance.htm (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8153
NOTE: I had Julan in the list, but the author doesn't want it to be included.

Factions:
http://btb2.free.fr/files/morrowind_service.zip
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5593
http://tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22956
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8276
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22601
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6822
http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=3757
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=4449
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5997
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7736
http://www.mediafire.com/?7en6utchfan7wfa
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22002

Main Quest Expansion:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=801
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23357
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?id=4590&view=Mods.Detail
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=9004 (Optional)
http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=4130

Creatures:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1695 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=3377 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2786
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=258 (Optional)
http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=getit&lid=3798 (Optional)
http://btb2.free.fr/files/morrowind_advanced.zip
http://www.pirates.retreat.btinternet.co.uk/Creatures.htm (Optional)
http://arcimaestroantares.webs.com/antarescreatures.htm
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6777 - http://arcimaestroantares.webs.com/Miei%20Mods/Undeads%20Skeletons%20Arise%20from%20Death.zip - http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8924
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5708

NPC/PC Animations/Activities:
http://lovkullen.net/Emma/kids.htm (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7474
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8896 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8937 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=244
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=9020 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=676 (Optional)

Homes:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=3408

New NPCs:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7749 (Optional)

Shops:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=2826
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7912
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=248453&id=6188 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6207 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7573
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1776 (Optional)

Weapons And Armors:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35562
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8846
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8847
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=4698

Books:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6136
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5782
http://www.elricm.com/nuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownloaddetails&lid=3893

Travelling:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=6706 (Optional)
http://btb2.free.fr/files/morrowind_economy.zip

Redesigned Locations:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30186
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7050&id=5535
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=6454
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8703
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36812
I'm testing right now the Trancemaster's new cities, probably I will have to do some compatibility patches for them.

Dungeons:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.detail&id=6270
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8710

Game Corrections:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7132
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=4256 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=6175

Misc:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5780 (Optional)
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=21372
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=27765
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=15595

Game Balance:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7904

Gameplay Balance:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=5864
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=648 (Optional)
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=7909 (Optional)
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=35580

Fighting System:
There will be two fighting systems: Action and Non-Action. We are experimenting them, so I can't post them now.

Stealth:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8636
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=4015
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1209
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2002 (Maybe)

Magic/Alchemy:
http://webpages.charter.net/manauser/morrowind/#gherb
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=2737
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1981
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8822
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1504

A.I.:
http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=1095
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22938

NOTE: I didn't ask for all the permissions yet. So don't panic if you see your mod here and you didn't receive my request yet.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:48 am

Hold it!, Hilgya, and Starfire have an interesting three way dynamic with their plugins. Make sure you dig through the various options to make the 3 work together. I don't remember what I ended up using (and I'm at work now so I don't have access)

Oblivion/LGNPC books link isn't valid. I believe this was pulled from PES. Its on Elric still I believe.

I prefer Advanced Herbalism to Graphic Herbs, but that's just me. I'm a fan of it adding the "Herbalism" skill to the game which you have to level up to do Herbing.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:00 pm

Hold it!, Hilgya, and Starfire have an interesting three way dynamic with their plugins. Make sure you dig through the various options to make the 3 work together. I don't remember what I ended up using (and I'm at work now so I don't have access)

Oblivion/LGNPC books link isn't valid. I believe this was pulled from PES. Its on Elric still I believe.

Yeah sure, that's why I included Starfire and not MCA.
Anyway thanks for the broken link, corrected now

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:43 pm

Yeah sure, that's why I included Starfire and not MCA.
Anyway thanks for the broken link, corrected now

MCA is better IMHO, simply due to the companion availability early on (it interacts with Hold It, CoV and HELLUVA weapons/armor as well)

I use both at the same time though, as I really like Starfire's NPCs as well.

Another thing you might consider is Light the Way. It requires the user to manually run a script though. A bit more cumbersome for the end user.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:38 pm

MCA is better IMHO, simply due to the companion availability early on (it interacts with Hold It, CoV and HELLUVA weapons/armor as well)

I use both at the same time though, as I really like Starfire's NPCs as well.

Another thing you might consider is Light the Way. It requires the user to manually run a script though. A bit more cumbersome for the end user.

Yeah but I usually tend to prefer Starfires, more light and simple. Anyway we'll see later on.
About Light the way: yeah I already had that suggestion, it's a quite good mod it seems, I just have to try it.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:03 am

Have you considered "Morrowind Comes Alive"?

Obviously and optional part, as it can be a fps hit for older machines and adds something new, as opposed to just modifying something already in the game.

I know I'm not alone in thinking that the bigger cities just seem like ghost towns. Either way, I love the list so far; keep up the good work!

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:16 pm

Have you considered "Morrowind Comes Alive"?

Obviously and optional part, as it can be a fps hit for older machines and adds something new, as opposed to just modifying something already in the game.

I know I'm not alone in thinking that the bigger cities just seem like ghost towns. Either way, I love the list so far; keep up the good work!

There is Starfire's NPC Addition that does the "same" thing, but it's more light and simple.
:)

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:58 pm

There is Starfire's NPC Addition that does the "same" thing, but it's more light and simple.
:)

:facepalm: Ok, I'm dumb, sorry. I somehow missed that on the list.

You are clearly the right person for the job! LOL

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:46 pm

:facepalm: Ok, I'm dumb, sorry. I somehow missed that on the list.

You are clearly the right person for the job! LOL

Haha thanks, anyway I'm not the only one behind this project

I receivd so much help from my teammates

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:00 am

Woo I'm very happy to such a project! Everytime I come back to Morrowind, the mods are just too many and I'm quite dumb in solving even small conflicts between them.
Also it's really good to see Great House Dagoth mods on the list and I could say that for many mods too.

Playing Morrowind with these packs will never be the same again!

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:56 am

Sorry if this has been mentioned, had a quick scan through the list but I recommend:

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=838

&

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8471

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:13 am

I think that it is given to include all the fixes out there first.

Mods like MCA or another additions should come second.

Oh, and speaking of additions, Since you are already considering GCD; maybe you want to try one of the newer variants of GCD. Which are more streamlined and easier on the code!

Maybe one of those Tomb Horror mods. That add scripted or triggered effects in tombs, which are quite creepy. Don't remember the name ATM.

bliviongate:

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 2:12 pm

http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=Mods.Detail&id=8471

Yeah, this is one I'd highly recommend. Takes the Solsteim rumor away from everyone, everywhere, at the start of the game. It gets old real fast.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:33 am

Yeah, this is one I'd highly recommend. Takes the Solsteim rumor away from everyone, everywhere, at the start of the game. It gets old real fast.

Then you should also get the one that removes the Almalexia and Solstheim topic. And the one that stops that really annoying "E-e-excuse me but you're the nerevarine" greeting.

I won't include Deus Ex Machinima: it's too different from Morrowind's original style. I'll look into Sobitur Facility, I have to try it

Man, I shouldn't have even bothered trying to work it into the lore in the first place.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:33 pm

Man, I shouldn't have even bothered trying to work it into the lore in the first place.

Anyway mine wasn't a critic, actually it's just a rule for the pick of mods in the pack.
It's obvious that Deus Ex Machinima is a well done mod.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:50 pm

And the one that stops that really annoying "E-e-excuse me but you're the nerevarine" greeting.

ABM that should be included in this Overhaul, does it.
The response is not removed. It's still used, but just sometimes, and by commoners.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:04 am

:facepalm: Ok, I'm dumb, sorry. I somehow missed that on the list.

You are clearly the right person for the job! LOL

LOL! Here's another vote for MCA, :toughninja:

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:53 pm

Yes, if you still want that beautiful redhead I have for you lol

Does she have an eyepatch? >.>

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:35 pm

I was looking through the list for "holes", but couldn't really find any. It's a great list.

I have a few suggestions, of course:

Fatigue Effects + Tejon's Fatigue Mods
Taddeus Balance - Weapons & Armor (patched to meet BTB's economy settings)
Protective Guards
Wanderers of Solstheim
Wound Penalties, WP Blood Loss, WP Critical Hits (I haven't fully tested this one)
Potion Sorter
Dodge Mod (Aragon)
Werewolf Evolution

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:30 pm

Does she have an eyepatch? >.>

Spoiler

http://www.worldofstock.com/slides/PMO5372.jpg

:hubbahubba:

I was looking through the list for "holes", but couldn't really find any. It's a great list.

I have a few suggestions, of course:

Fatigue Effects + Tejon's Fatigue Mods That's a part of the combat system. It was a possiblity, but it's still in testing.
Taddeus Balance - Weapons & Armor (patched to meet BTB's economy settings) I actually forgot it in the list, already planned for inclusion
Protective Guards Fliggerty's mod... he doesn't want his mods included.
Wanderers of Solstheim I forgot how it is, I'll test this one!
Wound Penalties, WP Blood Loss, WP Critical Hits (I haven't fully tested this one) Same as fatigue effects, will see for the combat system.
Potion Sorter Included in the graphics pack, will see if or not include it in the Game Experience too.
Dodge Mod (Aragon) Sounds cool, have to try it.
Werewolf Evolution Yeah this is a cool mod, I have to try it.

Thanks for the suggestions !
Responses in bold.

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:55 am

I'd suggest only having fixes installed by default - everything else should be optional. That will give the user the most flexibility and freedom of choice for their kind of modded game experience. Obviously some plugin choices will be dependent on other plugins and that will create restrictions for fully optional combinations.

Some ideas to look for permission to include:

* http://abot.silgrad.com/guppy/index.php?option=downloads&task=info&id=1&Itemid=50&-Guars (ride-able mounts)

* http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=2734 or another sailing mod.

* http://www.psychodogstudios.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4067

» Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:11 pm

I'd suggest only having fixes installed by default - everything else should be optional. That will give the user the most flexibility and freedom of choice for their kind of modded game experience. Obviously some plugin choices will be dependent on other plugins and that will create restrictions for fully optional combinations.

Some ideas to look for permission to include:

* http://abot.silgrad.com/guppy/index.php?option=downloads&task=info&id=1&Itemid=50&-Guars (ride-able mounts)

* http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=mods.detail&id=2734 or another sailing mod.

* http://www.psychodogstudios.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4067

Good point, should think more about that.

Oh and thanks for the suggestions.