Alright, if Morrowind was remade in HD by BGS and contained:


A full 720p 1080p/i support . Full retexuring . Character models, NOT textures, imported from Skyrim . Animations new and impored from past games . Full voice acting . Option to turn it to old Morrowind instantly . Updates to UI and Journal.

Could it be awsome?! Old players rememice, new players try the original, people who could not take the graphics get to play. EPIC?

The effort it would take to do that would be better spent on an entirely new game, as I'm sure plenty have said already.

^this.

Well that new game is waiting for the xbox 720 and PS4, and waiting till bethesda knows how to program one.

Why waste time remaking a game that's already good when we can spend the same amount of time making a completely new game?

I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I don't quite think thats what he asked.

I think it would be nice, suspending belief that it would ever happen. Alot of people complain about the graphics and mechanics and never give it a real shot, having it updated would help new players ease into a classic and experience what many of us lovers of the old version are talking about.

How about they actually make Morrowind? Like the whole province. In the 4E!! Much more exciting for me and others: the story of TES 3 could be told in the way Morrowind was molded into its current form by the events of that time. Much better! Besides Morrowind works just fine as it is. I am replaying it now.

most of it was destroyed during the events of red year


double this. anyone up for the next game to be set in black marsh?

Full voice acting would ruin Morrowind for me. I don't like it any game, it takes away time and money that could be better used elsewhere.
Morrowind is fine just the way it is. It doesn't need a remake.

If I never hear the words "remake" or "reboot" again it will be too soon.

Erase the destruction and argonian invasion and we'll talk.

Why? The Red Year didn't destroy everything or even that much afaik. We simply do not know how much damage happened. Nor did the Argonian invasion's presence seem to even be worthy of discussion in the time of Skyrim. Its probably a non factor.

We do know a lot about the destruction that went on in Morrowind, actually. The entire island of Vvardenfell is a wasteland now. The inner sea still boils from volcanic fire and ash. The mainland was decimated by the Argonians, who now control it entirely. Mournhold was completely sacked.

Suffice to say that all remaining Dunmer have already fled to Cyrodiil, Skyrim, and Solstheim. There's very little they have left to call home.

Although one in the making would be nearly impossible; I'd gladly welcome a "refurbished" Morrowind. I hate to sound shallow, but that game was too old appearance and gameplay wise for my liking. If they can make the game more organic per animations with a radiant AI-lite and polish the graphics, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

That was during 4e43 though. It's 4e201 now. We don't know that the seas are still boiling. Most of the area could have very well become somewhat habitable by now. Besides, I seem to recall a dunmer in Skyrim remarking he should never have left Mournhold. So the mainland does still have habitable areas.


That being said. I'm opposed to the idea of a remake as it would take time away from the dev team in moving forward.

Maybe, but considering that the war happened just a few years into the fourth era and this was what it looked like forty years later, I imagine it still can't look very good at all.

Well, now that you mention it I do remember something like this... are you sure he said Mournhold, though? And at any rate, it's possible that he was alive during the war and fled Mournhold before it was attacked, and now he's just complaining about his new life in the Grey Quarter, which doesn't seem particularly enviable.

Besides, I remember a particular conversation you can hear between a young girl and a dark elf in Dark Water Crossing about how Morrowind is all "black and gross" now. Evidently the common notion is that it's still not a very livable place, even two hundred years later.

well i remember talking to some one for part of a thieves guild quest and he tells you that his girl friend or what ever has a family that lives in morrowind and to use that to get her to pay up

Actually, we KNOW little. We can make assumptions. I read Lord of Souls and Infernal City. There really was not all that much to tell. They were near Vivec City in the book. Basically ground Zero. Of course that is going to have gotten the worst of it. There also is a god sent meteorite burning away in the boiling sea.You have zero evidence to support that the ENTIRE island of Vvardenfell is a wasteland. Tis true it was severely damaged but we have no evidence of it being a complete wasteland. That is pure speculation.

What are you an Argonians fan that is ecstatic that the place may have been destroyed? That is fine for your own speculation but do not try to pass it off like it is fact. We know of the area surrounding Vivec City and not much more other than Red Mountain exploded. Vvardenfell was damaged yes. But completely destroyed beyond reclamation? Very doubtful.

As far as Morrowind being controlled by Argonians? Again VERY doubtful. Maybe briefly after their invasion yes, and up to the time of Umbriel they sent religious parties out to the scathing bay for sacred ceremonies of some kind but that doesn't suggest they control the entirety of Morrowind at all. They certainly did not have any possession of the western areas near Blacklight and below, they were supposedly invaded by Nordic and Orcish mercenaries. If the Argonians held any major portion of Morrowind it would have been mentioned in Skyrim. The Dunmer there would have been outraged. Instead there is very little mention of any outright animosity between the Argonians and Dunmer which would not be the case at all. The only thing we know is that during the events of Umbriel, 160 years before Skyrim's events, the Argonians had various raiding parties throughout Morrowind and they had a religious ceremony tied to the scathing bay. While it may be the case that the Argonians had a large portion of Morrowind under their control it seems much more likely that they just swept through Morrowind and decimated large areas and disrupted the lives of the Dunmer people to a rather large degree and then withdrew most of their troops after they felt like they had got their 'vengeance'.

Conversation in Skyrim also seems to indicate Morrowind is a place that is safe to go back to as a few Dunmer iirc, were thinking of going back there now. In the beginning after you make your racial selection if you choose Dunmer they even say they will return your remains to Morrowind. There has to be something there for them to return your remains to that place.

TL;DR, Morrowind got effed up in the beginning of the 4E but most signs seem to indicate it is well recovered in Skyrim's timeframe with most of the Argonian invasion's presence being very much a thing of the past and not in any way active in 4E200 Morrowind.

First of all: I am not biased. I consider it a shame that the Dunmer homeland has experienced such severe decimation.

Secondly: Vvardenfell is an island that is separated from the mainland of Morrowind. Vvardenfell is a wasteland, and as I pointed out, people still talk about it in Skyrim. However, the mainland is not a wasteland. While it is true that the Dunmer cities there were sacked by the Argonians, the land there is still good. I can imagine that many Dunmer would want to return home now that the war is over.

Also, you should know that Vivec city is (or was) on the far southern coast of Morrowind. Attrebus and Sul weren't at ground zero (which was red mountain). They were as far away from it as possible without leaving the island.

Don't confuse the destruction that happened on Vvardenfell with the destruction that happened on the mainland. The Argonians didn't touch Vvardenfell or Vivec. Vvardenfell is a wasteland because Red Mountain erupted.

That's right. But Keerava's family is on the mainland, not Vvardenfell.

Personally, I think Bethesda made a mistake when they named the game Morrowind. I think it would have been better to name it Vvardenfell. We've been dealing with ten years of misconceptions and misunderstandings because of that decision, in my opinion.

Well it is good that you are not biased it just seemed that way. I apologize for that statement that asked if you were biased.


Ground Zero is not Red Mountain. It is Vivec City where The Ministry of Truth fell with all the force that Sheo sent it with. Red Mountain erupted because of that impact. I am quite aware of Vvardenfell's make up. i traipsed around there once upon a time and am very aware of where Vivec City is. The thing is that if Red Mountain truly had an eruption big enough to wipe out Vvardenfell then the effects such as Ashfall and such should have been much worse and felt globally. Red Mountain had erupted massively before in an event known as Sun's Death and afaik the Red Year eruption did not blot out the sun so it is doubtful that it was anywhere even close to that. Obviously that eruption did not cripple Morrowind permanently nor did it cover up all the various Dwemer ruins and such on Vvardenfell either. IMO all evidence points to the Red Year being a tragic but very recoverable disaster.

How the heck did this turn into a talk about making another Morrowind in 4E? I asked if you thought a remake could be good.

because we quickly came to the conclusion that it would probably be a waste of time. A game set in Morrowind during the 4E would be a much better idea as it is new and could answer some questions that people have been having. See the above posts. Morrowind is still very playable and there are mods that can make it almost a new game in of itself like MGSO and the Morrowind Overhaul.

It isn't bad enough off that there can't be travelers there, at least.
http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Twin_Secrets

Not sure exactly when that book was written, though. Could be any time after Red Year leading up to around 4E200.

The game was originally going to encompass all of Morrowind, but they had to scale it back because it was too ambitious for their budget (which they were lucky was as big as it was).

Morrowind with full voice acting, animations from Skyrim (i.e. garbage like finisher moves), and Skyrim's [censored] UI and journal? NO THANKS.

Leave the game be. Any remake would undoubtedly be inferior and spoiled by the same poor design choices Bethesda have made in more recent games.