I am personally a huge fan of everything Dunmer. To learn and see where the plot has gone in regard to the Dunmer and Morrowind came as a disappointment in many aspects, but I have been contemplating what is next for the Dunmer.
There home destroyed/invaded, government absent, people scattered. Many (from what I understand) have migrated to skyrim seeking refuge/ a new beggining. Much like say... Nords from Atmora (sp?) did at one time, as the chimer migrated at one point already. I think of it like a Mer version of Man's exodus to Skyrim.

Well i suppose the point of this post is out of my curiosity for everything Dunmer, there is alot of potential for new content regarding the Dunmer in Skyrim. My problem however is I do not much care for lore of other modders (no disrespect) and only intend to follow lore of Beth, mainly because of my caution to not contradict past or future plot. I was curious about other's opinion. Not degrading or perhaps overlapping in beths lore while still integrating what I hope to see as new Dunmer faction(s). The rise of the fallen race, the gray.

So what can we agree upon, what are the facts?

-The houses, which survived? Any new ones?
-What of the Nerevarine's expedition to Akavir
-Did ALL life on Vvardenfel die, if not who benefits and is able to rise. Vampire clans, aundae perhaps underground on an island?
-I think alot of our gaze should be on Solstheim. As I understand it survived, and many Dunmer relocated there? What is the current status of Solstheim?
-The animosity and disdain towards Mer due to the Thalmor, I believe the Dunmer are going to have a drastic effect on the future concerning the Thalmor, much because of this disdain shared by all Mer on account of the High Elves.

I suppose so, the entire island exploded when the Ministry of Truth fell and the Red Mountain erupted. The explosion reached mainland Morrowind, so I don't believe anything survived in Vvardenfell.



Lots of Dumner went to Solstheim, while others went to Skyrim. I don't know Solstheim's current status, as it is "land of no one" (it is neither part of Skyrim nor Morrowind).

What I'd like to know is Morrowind's current social organisation, with all the argonian invasion and stuff. Did the Argonians kill all Dumner they found? Or they cohexist in relative peace, or the Dumner polulation was forced to live in ghettos, or what?

Did the argonians invade after red mountain exploded? What was left to invade?

Also, this might be better in the lore forums.

Thanks for the response. Ya I was thinking perhaps the ones who couldn't get away from the Argonians and the ones who did not die could perhaps have been enslaved by the Argonians, like an eye for an eye. If Argonians think like me, a firm belief could be "you suffer most while breathing". Slave rebellion in the mix? My greatest hope is to see something that wakes the Dunmer up, common ground that unites them. To me they are the "strongest" race, most potential.

Concerning red mountain survivors, I was thinking in terms of underground. I read a book, for the life of me I cant find it!, it mentioned the awakening of a Dragon at red mountain an adventurer killed. What else may have been awoken?


Very good point

Found the book about the Dragon in VVardenfell.

Twin Secrets by Brarilu Theran
"Dragons are said to be gone from the world. Yet I found one. Sheltered in the smoking ruins of http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Vvardenfell, I came upon it."

This one here is completely subjective. I can assure you my Nerevarine never went to Akavir and can't imagine why someone would think he would. Could be that he rarely visited Vvardenfell after discovering Solsthiem and retreated to the peaceful isolation of the forest. Many a Dunmer may have come across him when they fled to Solsthiem but never knew it, as by now he's sporting quite the beared and living in the wilds away from all those annoying worshpers and ass kissers can be hell on the skin.

You shouldn't take that he/she went to Akavir as fact, but a mere rumor that convienently gets him/her out of the picture.

In order:

-It is heavily implied that Indoril and Redoran are gone, as is the likely case for Telvanni and Dres, being the former Super-Slave Trader House.
-Nothing is heard or seen from the Nerevarine again. His/her fate is openly left to be ambiguous in order to remove them from the lore.
-Vvardenfell is one part crater/new bay where Vivec City used to be, and the rest was destroyed by lava, mudslides, falling debris, buried under ash, etc. How it stands now nearly 200 years later is anyone's guess.
-Solstheim was given to the Dunmer as a new home, and is supposedly the only part of Morrowind that is a part of the Empire.
-The Dunmer are very anti-Thalmor, but they also don't have strong loyalty to the Empire or any sense of friendliness to Nords.


Actually, Solstheim was granted the Dunmer and is considered a part of Morrowind. It is effectively the only part of Morrowind they control/is controlled by the Empire to our knowledge.


The Argonians invaded at the urging of the Hist and took advantage of the destruction, carnage and chaos created by the Red Year. They mostly invaded mainland Morrowind.


The Argonians killed a lot of those who weren't killed by the Red Year already but have neither enslaved nor colonized Morrowind; they're just occupying it. They've made no effort to rebuild, assimilate, colonize, or anything of that nature. They're just... there. There is likely some kind of Dunmer resistance.


Vvardenfell and the Mainland was first pelted with smoldering rocks ejected from Red Mountain, then covered/destroyed with lots of lava, then buried under ash. Anyone underground was likely buried alive/starved to death. The only survivors would be those who escaped just in time.

As for the dragon, that's rather interesting...


Huh, I'll have to read that.

Some of the Hlaalu and Telvanni lines survived into Skyrim. It's a little unclear whether Redoran made it into Skyrim, but I imagine it so. Dres and Indoril appear to be gone, as far as I know.


Lies and propaganda. Actually, I have no idea. I'm pretty sure that Beth added that line in Oblivion just to make the Nerevarine's fate confusing and also out of the scope of Oblivion.


I'd say all life died. Looks like it did, anyway. I would say the airborne creatures would benefit, but it looks like St. Jiub killed those guys much earlier.


Status: Cold and [censored]. Other than that, I have no idea.


I'm pretty sure everyone who isn't Thalmor (bought) hates the Thalmor. And the Thalmor hates everybody that doesn't tow their line, too. This hate lists includes all the Dunmer.

Is it possible to do Skyrim in Morrrowind ?
It's different topic but nevertheless.

200 years, there might be some plans of the dunmer to explore what remains their homeland. As least some venture mines, few bits of plant life, etc, etc. Volanic islands always have great amounts of life on them, 200 years should be enough time for some recovery.

Sounds like Vvardenfell is now a crescent shaped island, sounds interesting.

I always pictured it as more or less the same but more curved in the southwest and Suran,Vivec, Ebonheart and the Ascadian Isles region is now part of the sea.

Undead monsters and daedra buried deep enough will have survived, as will any animals capable of doing so. Nix-hounds may still live, as may the Kwama, but not things like netch or guar.

House Telvanni is supposed to be gone, according to the survivor in Skyrim. The individual wizards however may have escaped, Fyr being quite likely as he could go to Oblivion at any time he liked.

The vampire clans will probably still be alive, but may have gone feral from a lack of food.

Anything in a dwemer ruin has some chance of being alive - after all, the ruins have withstood Red Mountain before.

The Dunmer have been driven out or underground, and the ones that do live on the surface will be driven underground once again after Landfall, assuming it is prevented by Love.

As I recall, Avrusa Sarethi claims she lived in Vivec City and left because of the eruption.

Now, however, it sounds like they've recovered, although there's little actual evidence of how well or poorly they're doing.

Interesting. I guess that explains the mention of Ahbiilok in http://uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Atlas_of_Dragons.

From what I heard from the dialog of the dunmer around Skyrim, Morrowind is being recolonized, in that there are now dunmer living there again, but it really svcks to be there. The only land the Saxhleel nabbed from Morrowind was contested souther territory the Saxhleel and dunmer fought over for a very long time. As for the invasion, the purpose was about pushing the dunmer out to show that the dunmer are to never [censored] with Black Marsh ever again. It wasn't genocide, or else that dunmer merchant in Riften would have been road splatter when his adoptive Saxhleel father found him, wrapped in a blanket with the Telvanni house symbol no less.

As far as Solstheim is concerned, it was a featured place in Lord of Souls, and the rulers of the area of Solstheim Sul and Attrebus went was lorded by unaffiliated dunmer nobles. Nords didn't seem to care they were dunmer, but then again, the nords of solstheim are very much unlike the nords of Skyrim.

It was only really Windhelm that flipped a [censored] about the Dunmer. And even then the oppresion increased over time, since Windhelm let them in like everyone else (and some Dunmer mention things have been getting worse under Ulfric).

And only the Skaal are different from Skyrim's Nords. And IIRC, they weren't the ones that appeared in Lord of Souls.

That was only according to one dunmer who was raised by Argonians, another dunmer at the college of winterhold introduces herself as being from house Telvanni, would seem to indicate they still exist.

Hrmm, still, even those who were not Skaal most likely had Skaal ancestry. At least the native population did in Bloodmoon.

But what is the longevity of the Dumner? She maybe fled when the Red Mountain erupted and keeps feeling she belongs to the Telvanni, or was raised by Telvanni and her familiar inheritance includes that feeling.


I didn't knew that. The Emperor gave Solstheim to Morrowind's king (or whoever is in charge), for free? Or he wanted somezing in return?


I don't understand why they would occupy Morrowind without obtaining any benefit. It is a dumb movement to keep soldiers away with the Thalmor around. Or the occupation isn't by the military but by civils who moved there from Black Marsh? Not like deliberated colonisation, only people went there on their own seeking for a better future. And what relations mantain with the remaining Dumner?

The motivations of The Hist cannot be truely understood, for all we know the Argonians just sitting in southern Morrowind and not doing anythign serves some unkowable purpose.

The Hist could predict the Deadra invasion maybe they know others things aswell.

For free. Solstheim was contested between Skyrim and Morrowind anyway, but the plight of the Dunmer saw the Emperor (and maybe High King of Skyrim?) officially declare Solstheim to be a part of Morrowind so the Dunmer could find a new home to settle in.


Um, the Thalmor were kicked out of Black Marsh and lost all influence shortly after the rise of the An-Xileel. They're not a factor in that part of Tamriel. The Argonians are just there as an occupying force. The Dunmer who are left there have had to rebuild on their own and without slaves. As for the relations with the Dunmer, likely not good if their history is anything to go by.

Giving Solsthiem to the Dunmer was the Nords idea. Cyrodiil didn't do much to help them.

i think sothsthiem (sp?) lava could never reach that far.

What? A Dragon in vvardenfell?