Morrowind.

Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:58 am

I'm sure Ghost Fence fell at the end of Morrowind's MQ.

Ghost Gate usually refers to the outpost, the Temple base. It's just a building. It doesn't require an energy source. It's just a base for Ordinators and Buoyant Armigers.

Sorry, Ghost Fence did not roll off the top of my tongue. At least you got the gist of it. Okay so that thing is gone, I guess, at least we have that established (in my out of date mind).
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:33 pm

For what it seems it's more like it's in a distopian state
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:08 am

I'm still not buying this bs that little chunk of rock floating above vivec destorys ALL of Vvardenfell. Give me a damn break. I don't buy it. Bethesda better come up with something more creative b/c it doesn't make sense to me. I know i know people say it's original velocity is still maintained or w/e such bs they come up with.

Ok, do this in the game.... use one of those scrolls that fortify's acrobatics by 1000 pts. Use it... then use a levitation spell before landing. What happens after you the levitation spell ends? Do you maintain velocity? NO YOU DO NOT! You just fall str8 down from the point you stoped levitating. I can see if that big chunk of rock fell and it destroyed like half the city of vivec or something. OK i can believe that. But all of Vvardenfell. Nope that's bs.



Um, it was a volcanic eruption/explosion of epic scale that decimated Vvardenfell
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:54 am

Anyone else think that a few towns are not completely destroyed? I mean... Red Mountain looks like it blasts SOUTH, towards Mt. Kand and Vivec. I think Dagon Fel is fine (except for ash), the Telvanni to the East have tall trees so ash could not have totally wiped them out. I think a boiling sea was more like a metaphor (I let a friend borrow my book so I cannot look up the final moments to see if any of the character were actually burnt stepping in the water).


I hope you're right that not everything in Morrowind was levelled, but it doesn't sound promising when you read the novel. The sea around the impact crater where Vivec City used to be is described as literally boiling, even 40 years after the impact. The characters Attrebus and Sul are unable to step into the water.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:49 am

Sorry, Ghost Fence did not roll off the top of my tongue. At least you got the gist of it. Okay so that thing is gone, I guess, at least we have that established (in my out of date mind).



Yeah that fell the very second the Nerevarine disenchanted the heart of Lorkhan in the chamber under Red Mountain. It's shown deactivating in the cut scene as Azura talks. It's no longer needed, and besides the Tribunal became mortal at that moment and no longer had the divine powers required to hold it together.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:47 pm

I'm still not buying this bs that little chunk of rock floating above vivec destorys ALL of Vvardenfell. Give me a damn break. I don't buy it. Bethesda better come up with something more creative b/c it doesn't make sense to me. I know i know people say it's original velocity is still maintained or w/e such bs they come up with.

Ok, do this in the game.... use one of those scrolls that fortify's acrobatics by 1000 pts. Use it... then use a levitation spell before landing. What happens after you the levitation spell ends? Do you maintain velocity? NO YOU DO NOT! You just fall str8 down from the point you stoped levitating. I can see if that big chunk of rock fell and it destroyed like half the city of vivec or something. OK i can believe that. But all of Vvardenfell. Nope that's bs.

It's hard to lose one of the most unique provinces in game, I know, but Bethesda just didn't pull this out of nowhere (Well, perhaps they did, but that's not the point). The Ministry of Truth was a large meteorite/planet up high in space, and Sheogorath convinced it to plummet down unto Vivec City. Vivec himself managed to stop it in mid-air by freezing it in time, even though they could have just destroyed it, or sent it off-course (If I were him I would send it to Cyrodiil). The Reason he didn't, however, was because he wanted the Dunmer to continue loving him, even if that meant threatening them with destruction, and the Rock would only fall if they lost their faith in him, and the Tribunal.

As said before, it also wasn't only the MOT that contributed to Vvardenfell's destruction: Red Mountains pre-mature eruption, caused by the Moon falling, finished the island off.

I don't know if this was stated before, but I felt I should explain this to anyone who still think's that the Moon's falling is BS. I myself wish it never happened, but it's just a fictional universe, and change is good for Fiction. So long as it's done well ;)
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:57 pm

Hmm.. It is hard trying to comprehend the destruction of Morrowind. Oh, I would just like to point out that the cities I have mention above were not near Vivec but rather on the opposite side of the island by the Sea of Ghosts. Maybe the Inner Sea is boiling, but the Sea of Ghost cannot be. The towns above would only be affected by ash fall.

Of course, the above statement is complete fan-boyism. I have no facts, just a theory!

MK should write the next book!
Actually that would turn out to be a complete mind F.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:55 am

MK should write the next book!
Actually that would turn out to be a complete mind F.


I completely agree, and I don't think it'd be as much a mind F as an eye-opening look at some brilliant lore. A lot of the stuff MK did pre-sermons was pretty sane, y'know. So, even though I'd like it that way too, it wouldn't necessarily be a Mind F.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:16 pm

MK would have his Skar fly to Skyrim to murder Nords after eating the MOT. XD

Too much was lost in Morrowind...
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:12 pm

I'd like something set in Black Marsh. I remember a quote along the lines of "AND ARGONIANS POURED INTO OBLIVION WITH SUCH MIGHT AND FORCE, DAGON'S LIUTENANTS WERE FORCED TO CLOSE THE GATES". That was bad-ass. MORE BAD-ASS ARGONIANS KICKING ASS, gamesas PLEASE.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:40 am

I'd like something set in Black Marsh. I remember a quote along the lines of "AND ARGONIANS POURED INTO OBLIVION WITH SUCH MIGHT AND FORCE, DAGON'S LIUTENANTS WERE FORCED TO CLOSE THE GATES". That was bad-ass. MORE BAD-ASS ARGONIANS KICKING ASS, gamesas PLEASE.


wow if that qoute is true then I've just fallen in love with argonians.



Shame about morrowind, I'm not supprised though, from what I gathered playing morrowind it was on a decline as a nation.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:15 am

Anyone else think that a few towns are not completely destroyed? I mean... Red Mountain looks like it blasts SOUTH, towards Mt. Kand and Vivec. I think Dagon Fel is fine (except for ash), the Telvanni to the East have tall trees so ash could not have totally wiped them out. I think a boiling sea was more like a metaphor (I let a friend borrow my book so I cannot look up the final moments to see if any of the character were actually burnt stepping in the water).


First, a meteor the size of a small village strikes the earth, then inducing a sudden and violent eruption of Dagoth Ur. Morrowind is only about 6 square miles. There are craters caused, likely, by smaller rocks that are around 9-12 miles across. Next, two words: Pyroclastic Cloud. This is a cloud of magma dust (and superheated sulphur among other things) that is fast moving, and will get anywhere in it's path, killing it.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:47 am

...Morrowind is only about 6 square miles. There are craters caused, likely, by smaller rocks that are around 9-12 miles across...

You're going by in-game size, we're actually looking at about 150 miles from east to west and north to south on Vvardenfell alone, much less the whole of Morrowind (though I imagine you meant Vvardenfell rather than Morrowind).
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:10 am

There is also some water between Dagon Fel and the mountain's dust cloud would probably end there? But that is one lame town...
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:18 am

You're going by in-game size, we're actually looking at about 150 miles from east to west and north to south on Vvardenfell alone, much less the whole of Morrowind (though I imagine you meant Vvardenfell rather than Morrowind).


Oh, right. :facepalm: I shoulda known that.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:44 pm

wow if that qoute is true then I've just fallen in love with argonians.



It is. Mere-Glim says something like it in one of the first few chapters. I'll try and look through and find an exact quote.

"Martin and the Empire didn‟t beat him in Black Marsh," Glim said, his voice rising. "The
An-Xileel did. When the gates opened, Argonians poured into Oblivion with such fury and
might, Dagon‟s lieutenants had to close them."

Actual quote even more badass then guessed one ^
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:41 pm

Yeah the Argonians actually already had the Daedra beat in Black Marsh by the time Martin mantled Akatosh. The Dremora Lords gave up on waging war with the Argonians in much the same way the Imperials did when they saw how hopeless it was. The Argonians were whipped into a battle meditation frenzy by their Hist gods and all fought as one massive unstoppable force. This is also how they conquered the weakened Morrowind.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:00 am

Bad ass? It sounded like they just won because of numbers. Too many and too few bullets. Like an ant hill. I bet the K/D ratio for the argonians was TERRIBLE!
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:23 am

Bad ass? It sounded like they just won because of numbers. Too many and too few bullets. Like an ant hill. I bet the K/D ratio for the argonians was TERRIBLE!



It's more than that. The Hist actually telepathically control and coordinate them. It's like the battle meditation technique from star wars. It's less of a zerg rush and more a cosmic level micro management of a large force.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:22 pm

wow if that qoute is true then I've just fallen in love with argonians.



Shame about morrowind, I'm not supprised though, from what I gathered playing morrowind it was on a decline as a nation.


We mainly only played around on Vvardenfell, which had been closed to settlement for ages. The Mainland would have been much more developed, as we saw in Tribunal, though that was certainly more ostentatious than most of it would be. In other words, I don't think what we saw in Morrowind would give us a good perspective on the state of the nation of Veloth.

Anyway, I'm about to hit the fan fic forum up with a resurrection of the Velothi people. I can't let them die.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:19 pm

If the loveletter is any consolation, it would seem that the Velothi have rebuilt their civilization by the late 5th Era.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:39 pm

Amazing how we miss what is written and set before us - I've done it too so correct me if I am wrong

Vivec gradually loses the love of the people and the meteor hits Vivec City. That disturbs something deep under Vvardenfell and sets off an eruption and the Island is cought in a cycle of eruption, earthquake/explosion and Tsunami. Vivec City and the waters around it are turned into a boiling mess maybe because a vent from the volcano opens up beneath or perhaps there is lava flowing from the Caldera (it has to be if it 'explodes') of red Mountain.

Most life on Vvardenfell is killed off through laval flows, superheating, gasses and the earthquakes and Tsunami/s and becomes in the med term mostly uninhabitable.

The Tsunamis wreck further havoc on the coastline and lower River Valleys of the Mainland - salting and destroying much of the land area that is the most fertile. The economy of Morrowind is in ruins and then the Argonians invade.

The whole of the land area of Morrowind is not totally destroyed - just their society - and so the people flee. Once more they are Velothi.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:53 am

Amazing how we miss what is written and set before us - I've done it too so correct me if I am wrong

Vivec gradually loses the love of the people and the meteor hits Vivec City. That disturbs something deep under Vvardenfell and sets off an eruption and the Island is cought in a cycle of eruption, earthquake/explosion and Tsunami. Vivec City and the waters around it are turned into a boiling mess maybe because a vent from the volcano opens up beneath or perhaps there is lava flowing from the Caldera (it has to be if it 'explodes') of red Mountain.

Most life on Vvardenfell is killed off through laval flows, superheating, gasses and the earthquakes and Tsunami/s and becomes in the med term mostly uninhabitable.

The Tsunamis wreck further havoc on the coastline and lower River Valleys of the Mainland - salting and destroying much of the land area that is the most fertile. The economy of Morrowind is in ruins and then the Argonians invade.

The whole of the land area of Morrowind is not totally destroyed - just their society - and so the people flee. Once more they are Velothi.

Let's remember that the Inner Sea is where the tsunami is at, so the southern area of the Morrowind mainland is the only part affected by the tsunami. I do not think that the plantations around Vivec were as much de-fertilized as fertilized; remember that the mountain erupted with ash -like Mt. St. Helens in the real world.

(I also like how you capitalized the C in Caldera!)
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:55 am

The Neverar is dead.

He has been in Akavir for 40 years, apparently. That's a while.
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Post » Sun Aug 08, 2010 10:20 am

The Neverar is dead.

He has been in Akavir for 40 years, apparently. That's a while.

He's also immortal... so, yea...

And the word you're looking for is Nerevarine.
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