Morrowinds current situation.

Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:59 am

After playing oblivion, you find out by listening to a conversation that Morrowind is troubled and the nerevarine has headed north. I'm very puzzled because I don't really understand what has happened to the province. Has it been many years since the elderscrolls 3, or is oblivion set straight after the events of elderscrolls 3. Could someone, also, please explain the tribunal's position of power, now that we know sotha sil and amalexia are dead.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:46 pm

Morrowind takes place in 3E 426, Oblivion in 3E 433. The Tribunal is no longer in power, with two pillars dead & Vivec disappearing (apparently). So I'd say power shifted to King Hlaalu Helseth completely.

Btw, the Nerevarine went east, to Akavir.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:50 am

Btw, the Nerevarine went east, to Akavir.


He went North to Solstheim.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:14 am

He went North to Solstheim.


No, rumors say he went on an expedition to Akavir. Where did you hear otherwise?
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:42 am

No, rumors say he went on an expedition to Akavir. Where did you hear otherwise?


I was there. Looking over his shoulder.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:18 am

house redoran is fighting with nord and orc mercenanires (SP?). also the city of ald-ruhn was destroyed by the deadra..
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:06 pm

No, rumors say he went on an expedition to Akavir. Where did you hear otherwise?


Referring to Bloodmoon I believe
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:09 am

House Indoril is ruined (although this seems more politically than militarily) and House Hlaalu and House Dres have formed an alliance. Since they both have practices that come from opposite ends of the Dunmer timeline, though, I doubt that will last long, especially now King Helseth has banned slavery.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:30 am

Referring to Bloodmoon I believe


Well, these rumors are more recent than that :)
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:35 am

Bethesda story writers got a bit high and wrote that Hlaalu and Dres outlawed slavery. There was a civil war, the Temple split (somehow) and Ald'Ruhn got obliterated, Vehk flew the coop and the Nords invaded.

Happy days.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:25 pm

Bethesda story writers got a bit high and wrote that Hlaalu and Dres outlawed slavery. There was a civil war, the Temple split (somehow) and Ald'Ruhn got obliterated, Vehk flew the coop and the Nords invaded.

Happy days.


Surely Ald'Ruhn was destroyed by the Daedra?
And I'm just wondering... Where the Nords invading? Maybe they were running away from the Daedra, decided to bring weapons in case the Daedra attacked Morrowind and they couldn't run any further and decided to make a cover up story so no one knew they were actually fleeing like little Breton girls :P
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:47 am

the Nevervarine headin to Akavir? what for?
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:02 pm

the Nevervarine headin to Akavir? what for?


Goodness knows... :P
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:55 am

I don't believe it's real. It is only what characters in Oblivion say, and they say a lot of weird shizzle.

And the Nords seem most likely to have invaded because of territorial claims to northwest Morrowind, just as Dagoth Ur (or someone else...?) talks about reclaiming lost land from Skyrim and Black Marsh.
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:09 pm

So I'd say power shifted to King Hlaalu Helseth completely.

Not in my game it didn't, cause I killed him.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:08 am

where is akavir, is that somewhere to do with the vampires or am i wrong? Pluss, why the hell would the daedra destroy ald-ruhn? what was there to destroy apart from a big crab shell. lol
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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:37 pm

why the hell would the daedra destroy ald-ruhn? what was there to destroy apart from a big crab shell. lol


A war waged by the Prince of Destruction needs no other reason but to destroy....anything and everything. We cannot superimpose a need for strategic importance upon Dagon's decision to march across the land, for to do otherwise would be to forget that the Daedra do not think as we do.

Additionally, Dagon hates Morrowind, for the Dunmer, through its Tribunal Temple, branded him a "Bad Daedra" and made worshiping him punishable by death. And considering that out of the three Great Houses on Vvardenfell, Redoran was the Temple's biggest supporter and defender, one can see why Dagon chose to attack its capital first.


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Post » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:18 pm

what was there to destroy apart from a big crab shell. lol


A big crab shell that got up and fought the Daedra, mind you.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:56 am

the Nevervarine headin to Akavir? what for?


Maybe curiousity. A better question is why didn't more people in Tamriel travel to Akavir as explorers? We don't know if Akavir is a stable empire or a bunch of warring kingdoms. In real life, there would be missionaries, merchants, and explorers travelling there to find out.

Since the Nerevarine is free of the strings that bound him or her (serving the Empire, Azura, the people of Vvardenfell, Almalexia, and Helseth at various times), he or she is now free to travel and explore. At least, that was my interpretation.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:34 am

Well, I hope :biglaugh: that Orvas Dren will takes control over Morrowind .
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where is akavir, is that somewhere to do with the vampires or am i wrong? Pluss, why the hell would the daedra destroy ald-ruhn? what was there to destroy apart from a big crab shell. lol


It has nothing to do with vampires. Look at http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Akavir for more details

Maybe curiousity. A better question is why didn't more people in Tamriel travel to Akavir as explorers? We don't know if Akavir is a stable empire or a bunch of warring kingdoms. In real life, there would be missionaries, merchants, and explorers travelling there to find out.

Since the Nerevarine is free of the strings that bound him or her (serving the Empire, Azura, the people of Vvardenfell, Almalexia, and Helseth at various times), he or she is now free to travel and explore. At least, that was my interpretation.


I don't think people from Tamriel would be happy travelling to a land which hates them and tries to kill them and conquer them fairly often
It's a bunch of permanently warring nations is it not? Well... except the Kamal, they only fight in Winter :P
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:06 am

I don't think people from Tamriel would be happy travelling to a land which hates them and tries to kill them and conquer them fairly often
It's a bunch of permanently warring nations is it not? Well... except the Kamal, they only fight in Winter :P

The Kamal are frozen during the winter, and fight in the summer when they thaw.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:27 am

A war waged by the Prince of Destruction needs no other reason but to destroy....anything and everything. We cannot superimpose a need for strategic importance upon Dagon's decision to march across the land, for to do otherwise would be to forget that the Daedra do not think as we do.

Additionally, Dagon hates Morrowind, for the Dunmer, through its Tribunal Temple, branded him a "Bad Daedra" and made worshiping him punishable by death. And considering that out of the three Great Houses on Vvardenfell, Redoran was the Temple's biggest supporter and defender, one can see why Dagon chose to attack its capital first.


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Have you taken into account the tale of The Greedy Man, the Leaper Demon King and The Dragon? Wether it is accurate it may still point to something underlying Dagon's actions in addition.

Lord Hyamentar

Bethesda story writers got a bit high and wrote that Hlaalu and Dres outlawed slavery. There was a civil war, the Temple split (somehow) and Ald'Ruhn got obliterated, Vehk flew the coop and the Nords invaded.

Happy days.
Working on the supposition that all these are rumours have you taken into account that some rumours are recent and some refer to past events? Also rumours can be even more innacurate than the most agressive propaganda. People seem to be assuming that all the rumours in Oblivion are about new events - but is it necessarily so? The gap from Morrowind was only 7 years, right?

For example we already know of a split in the Temple - the Dissident Priests led it. Now what if this rumour referred to that old news?
And there was a civil war on Morrowind that lasted how long - and then the Nerevarine turned up and sorted it ...
Then as proweler said the Nerevarine went North to Solsteim where that Nord Island was being settled by Imperials ... I wonder if the Nords then sent a force to Solstheim and wiped out that impudent Imperial settlement later?
And ofc the Nerevarine later went South to Almalexia - aka Mournhold and sorted that. I was looking over his shoulder then too :) Mind you I didn't see you when you were looking over the Nrevarine's shoulder in Solstheim proweler.

What you might ask is what might rumours in TESV have to say about Oblivion and Morrowind rumours and events? That is assuming the timeline goes forward as it has done to date.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:43 am

Not in my game it didn't, cause I killed him.


That's Schroedinger's Cat taken to the Nth degree.
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Post » Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:39 am

Bethesda story writers got a bit high and wrote that Hlaalu and Dres outlawed slavery. There was a civil war, the Temple split (somehow) and Ald'Ruhn got obliterated, Vehk flew the coop and the Nords invaded.

Happy days.

He-he And the funny part is how the Dres economic stability is based on slavery. No sane nobility wound enter an alliance that cripples them economically. If that was what Helseth has to offer the Dres: poverty and Argonian intermarriage, then this farcical alliance should've turned against Helseth. The Dres could claim Helseth is violating the Armistice Treaty signed between the Empire and Morrowind or the Dres should be up in arms with the Indoril against Helseth. Nothing is so detrimental to a young monarchy than tearing apart the social and cultural fabric of their society.
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