i also think that most modern art is a bunch of pretentious [censored] as well. there is a fine line between art and junk. some people just have a hard time seeing it. this is a $5 game that sits you at a table for 25 minutes and im guessing you press buttons to active different aspects of his psyche.................. sounds alot like modern art. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzvgvFgVz9A

im not a huge art buff but i an appreciate Davinci (my personal favorite) and other more grounded artists. not big into surrealism or that blotchy stuff but at least it looks like it to time to actually make. some of that davali sp? surreal stuff actually looks kind of neat. but its grounded in something complex.

Any art is, first and foremost, an outlet for something you have stored in yourself. That you can't grasp what went into the thought process behind it does not necessarily mean that there wasn't anything. Don't disregard art that you don't understand purely for that reason, for our capability to grasp the mind of others is what makes us social, and by that, human.

Just because the subject matter doesn't automatically make something bad doesn't mean everyone can enjoy anything regardless of its subject matter. Some concepts just don't interest me, no matter how well executed they are, and a game which consists entirely of listening to someone's thoughts while he sits around waiting for his girlfriend to show up for a date sounds like one of those things. I'd agree that it seems more like an art product than the usual sort of game we get, and really, that's part of the problem, I don't feel that video games necessarily can't qualify as art, but that is not the main thing I play them for. I play them for entertainment, if a game can be artistic and entertaining at the same time, then that's great, but generally speaking, I'm not going to pay money for a game just for art if it isn't entertaining as well.

So yes, I'll say that it's an unusual idea as far as games go, and maybe it's done well, maybe it's not, but either way, it really doesn't seem like the sort of game I'd want to play.

What a coincidence; I recently got The Path, some artistic "barely a game" where you walk through the woods and interact with objects and places, all while having no clear goal and creepy ambience and music plays in the background. It's much longer than the games mentioned here, though, and does have a goal, albeit an incredibly vague one.

how much thought does it take to put a shovel in some dirt. or to make a table setting on top of a crate. i mean seriously some of this stuff is clearly an inside joke. not everything is artistic.........if everything was art then by definition there is nothing original. there are lots of table settings and lots of piles of dirt with shovels in them all over the world. if you going to call one of them art then all of them have to be art. also what the hell does "stored in yourself" mean. :rofl: it sounds like some generic gobbledy gook from a college art appreciation class. i have friends who are into this stuff and it just amazes me the phrases they throw around. i aks them what they mean and half the time they dont know or they come up with some confusing meandering definition that is more obfuscated than the original phrase. sometimes a piece of paper with a botch of paint on it is.........a piece of paper with a blotch of paint on it.

being human is also having the ability to figure out when someone is conning you.

I thought this thread was going to be about Pong

hell no. pong is better than ever. http://download.cnet.com/Plasma-Pong/3000-2099_4-10511143.html

Don't even try to associate this abomination with art. That's what the designer wants you to do. It's not art. It's something dressed up to look like art. It's meant to make you think "Well I don't get it so it must be good". This is the same kind of pretentious BS that makes a blank canvas worth a million dollars. Well I'm not buying. I'm calling it what it is. Crap. Plain and simple.

:rofl:

OMFG they must be taking the piss

yes. it's called angry birds

Oh wow now I don't have to go out and go on a dinner date with a real lady, I can go on a dinner date in a video game awsome! Oh wow I can watch an arm eat food and drink instead of my own even better! WOW I WANT THIS GAME THIS IS GAME OF THE YEAR MATERIAL! I wonder if he gets stood up or if the lady actualy shows up...

Alright, I think you put it clear enough that you are, err, too down-to-earth to get it. Nothing bad with that. ^_^

Reminds me of Dear Esther, which is currently getting re-made from a mod into an indie 'game'. But it's not exactly a game either, just a story that you walk through. No enemies, no puzzles, just story and environments. It's coming out this summer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3bPjEbenew&hd=1



And if you really want to see a bad pointless game with no 'It's art!' argument to justify it, have a look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfGRNraFvkg :rofl:

Dear Esther isn't a game, it's a visual novel

and a damn good one I might add

EDIT: IIRC the new Dear Esther game is being developed by a former DICE employee and not the original team.


Plasma pong is awesome

Yes, i remember a breathing game being shown on some expo by one of the big publishers.



Scroched Earth and Worms were awesome. Angry Birds is just the latest reincarnation of such "artillery" games. Haven't played it myself, my cellphone isn't supported

You don't play games unless you have plenty free time. So games in general are rather pointless.

So what else would you do that has a point?

o_O to both the OP and the elderly woman in graveyard game.. What... the...faaaa....

Actually a more pointless game would be tetris. Phiosophically speaking that is.

I certainly wouldn't say everyone enjoys everything, which is why I ended the paragraph about books with the sentence, "Any of the aforementioned can be good or bad, depending on writer and reader". Sorry that that paragraph was slightly rambly, I think I there was stuff I intended to say but forgot to :hehe:.

Reminds me of Subnormality's "The Good, The Bad and The Ugly of Viddeogames"


which described a bad Indie game as "more on rails than the new york subway system and fun once if you're lucky"


The mock up game itself was described as A Time For Mood: A semi interactive journey of uncommon profoudity. -No need to press start: we make the decisions.

The original team is adding new spoken dialogue (monologue?) and the soundtrack is re-recorded with actual instruments so they are doing something, but yeah, DICE's Robert Briscoe is one who works on the new environments.

to serve nothing, do nothing.

seriously, i'd get a part time job to the point of no life if i want points. But point is overrated, so there's no point to bash games for their pointness.

So just out of curiosity, to those who think this game is stupid: Have any of you ever played Braid? Or Limbo?

Come to think of it, the OP is behaving like the people on a certain radio show discussed here, except the topics are somewhat exchanged. :shifty:

That wouldn't even be human, so... Yeah. ^_^

Literally can't wait for DE, Briscoe worked on my favourite Mirror's Edge levels, and he seems to be a total genius in the Source engine. Good to hear it's going Indie as well, they deserve the money.