Cyrus.






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They are paled in comparison to these other guys:

The Initiate from Battlespire. S/He kill every daedra he met, stop the invasion, and freaken beat Dagon in his OWN realm, all singlehandy.

Cyrus would be second. He is the HoonDing (think lightsaber jedi), stall Vivec when he was full god mode, and kill a dragon that previously burn all the redguard armada with one flaming blow.

The next one in line would be the Eternal Champion of Arena. 10 freaken years of dungeon running throughout Tamriel require a crap load of will power to beat Jagar Tharn.

Lastly, the Agent of Daggerfall. Who need force if one can play politic with every power hungry lords, two Liches, and be the one to chose the destiny of the land, only to trigger Megatron and a Dragonbreak that screw EVERYTHING up in the Iliac Bay.

Damn strait.

Dovahkiin or the Nerevarine. In a straight-up fight? Probably Dovahkiin. Slowing down time and all that fun stuff got its benefits. Now, should the Nerevarine simply stay alive for 1 000 years (He is, after all, immortal) then Dovahkiin will not stand a chance, even if he is an Altmer wizard.

Nerevarine could fly, stack potions, and have 100% chameleon.

Well since Sheogorath IS the Champion of Cyrodil (I refuse to believe it the other way around) Sheogorath is clearly the most powerful =D

CoC turns into Sheogorath. Practically limitless power... in his own realm. The Nerevarine killed three god-like beings and is god-like himself. On Nirn my bet is that he would send the Champion back to his realm, albeit after a very brutal fight. Haven't played Skyrim yet.

If we're talking deeds, again, Nerevarine wins hands-down. Just in this incarnation, he became Hortator of all the Great Houses, united the Ashlander tribes, killed Dagoth Ur, Almalexia, and an aspect of Hircine single-handedly, and became an ageless hero who could have thousands of years to perfect his abilities. Who knows, maybe he found something in Akavir that gave him the powers of a Daedric Prince?

The Champion of Cyrodiil rescued the last heir to the Septim throne, went on a bunch of errands for said heir, and closed a bunch of Oblivion gates and fought a horde or two of daedra. Impressive, but I still think the Nerevarine wins this one.

If you count the earlier games, the Eternal Champion could flick them all away with his pinky. In his sleep.

Well at first you are inclined to say the COC because he becomes Sheogorath

But then since this is Sheogorath if there was a contest he probably wouldn't show up just to mess with people...

So that leaves the Dovahkiin and the Nerevarine....

The Nerevarine killed two gods (Dogoth ur counts!) on his own with no special power like the dragon shouts... and like faulgor said
Nerevar beat Thu'um users in his first incarnation... so yeah I'm gonna go with him

Champion of Cyrodiil is the most powerful. You don't mess with Daedra!

Totally agree with this. I would probably rank the Agent of Daggerfall a lil higher though. He went to Aetherius and back, swatting scores or Daedra Lords on the way. And the Mantellan Crux must have been the most maddening experience in any TES so far! No wonder you meet Sheo in there

Finding it kinda funny when ppl argue that one of the strengths of the Nerevarine is that he can levitate. Just look at what the Agent and the Eternal Champion could do with magic and then talk about the Nerevarine again.

When Shor/Shezarr/Lorkhan "tricked" the Aedra into creating Nirn, they all gave up a significant part of their power to shape the realm. It's also evident that the Aedra can "die", as Lorkhan had his heart ripped out and cast into Red Mountain.

However, it's not truly known if the Aedra can die or not, as there are some theories that Tiber Septim/Talos was Lorkhan-incarnate, and that as he ascended to become a part of the nine divines, Lorkhan was simply getting his position in the Aedric circle back. There's not any books about it that I can find/remember, but there's been several people on this forum that have brought up the theory that Talos is Lorkhan.

I don't know how the Daedra were created (don't remember any books on it), but the Aedra are essentially "killable", due to Lorkhan's downfall.

Still in the "What the Hell I went through" mindset when I think back about that last dungeon of Daggerfall. Bunch of giant heads and endless space and time, with the Madgod there to talk to, twice, all to obtain the heart of Megatron; definitely still one of the MOST bizarre moment I ever play in the entire series.

Oh, let not forget that the Agent has the most inventory slot in the series (ie equip the most enchanted item compare to all heroes), can alter his/her beginning status with advantage/disadvantage (giant step compare to birthsigns) and the ability to alter this/her stat in the beginning (ie min/max).


Oh and all who say Champion of Cyrodiil just because s/he become Sheogorath, keep this in mind; when ya become Sheogorath (if CoC didn't go insane and walking around claim to be the Madgod in the Asylum Realm), you are not Champion of Cyrodiil anymore but just Sheogorath. Ya lose your identity and thus, lose the status of PC with it.

Not to mention firing a huge crossbow suspended in mid-air, using yourself as the bolt

And yes, the character creation in Daggerfall was awesome. You could start the game as a demi-god if you felt like an easy playthrough.

Not that it was ever easy though. Lich's Soul quest for KoW and Lysandus' Tomb without using maps/guides... Dungeon crawling, anyone?

Dragonborn, easily. Neither the Morrowind or Oblivion protagonist were as powerful.

I don't care that within the game of Morrowind you could practically become invincible. That really has nothing to do with the character but something that can be done within that game. If you put the Dragonborn within Morrowind, he could do that as well. Same with levitation.

The CoC becoming Sheogorath is really "post facto" and not really the CoC, the playable character.

Put them in a cage 1 v 1 v 1 and Dragonborn wins.

Exactly, it metter nothing at all what they did, but what they can actually do vs each other and what powers they have, and for the 100 time the Dragonborn has the most power, i never felt so powerful in Oblivion as i fell in Skyrim

I agree. The neravarine was just a person who managed to defeat Dagoth Ur. But he didn't have any special powers or anything, other than being "guided" by Azura, as she says in the intro video "fear not, for I am watchful". But if all three characters had the same strengths and weaknesses and were the same age and height and weight and six, the Dragonborn would be the most powerful because he knows dragon shouts. The other two are just ordinary people.

It's a tie between all of them, because of console commands!
But seriously, I would have to say the dovahkin. He/she has shouts that slow time, sends him/her forward at 100 mph, and can just fus ro dah both the morrowind guy and the champion.Also can summon a Dragon, a human being, and have a small army at his/her command!

Well I don't think there is one.

Both CoC and Nerevarine are immune to all forms of damage late game. 100 magic reflect plus 100 sanctuary/physical reflect.

I'm going to say Nerevarine though. Through alchemy he could increase all his stats to infinity. This of course doesn't matter if all damage is nulled, which is the case with both him and CoC, but it does make him the strongest strength = 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...

Dovahkiin just doesn't have a chance against the two.



Also Cyrus as the Hoonding wins.

Though you know he was captured at the end and needed the assistance of his sidekick Ator the flying sword to save him. He did fight a dragon, but he was also easily tricked.

There was some side story wasn't there where he bluffed an elf? Maybe he can trick other people too.

Jiub

Nerevarine /thread

Considering that the arine isn't getting the most votes, you might have to make some sort of case why you think so.

The only reason the Dragonborn is getting the most votes is because the game just came out.

Champion of Cyrodiil. He singlehandedly did for the Imperial province what it took armies of Dunmer or Argonians, for instance, to do. And he accomplished everything in the main quest on his own merit, rather than having a guardian angel like Azura or being born with fancy powers like Dovahkiin.

The only reason you voted for the arine is because you played Morrowind first.