Most Powerful Protagonist between Nerevarine, Champion of Cy

Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:38 pm

Ok so for main characters for morrowind, oblivion and skyrim you can get pretty powerful. But lore wise (not game mechanic wise) which hero between the three of them do you think is the most powerful/strongest of them?

Post your reasons why you picked who you picked.

Also, the Champion of Cyrodil when he becomes sheogorath actually slowly turns into the daedric god sheogorath, making him more fall under the category of sheogorath and not the champion of cyrodil therefore he is no longer the champion of cyrodil.
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Alex Blacke
 
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Post » Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:17 am

Dovahkiin = Blessed by Gods

Nerevarine = Like a God

Champion of Cyrodiil = Is a God

Yes I read your comment about Sheo, but we're talking Lore, and in the lore, he becomes a god.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:38 pm

During the initial adventures, I have to say Dragonborn as he has to contend with a world-eating monstrosity.

Nerevarine has to kill a god-king.

Champion...well...doesn't really do much as Martin takes the helm. All he/she does is enter gates and stuff.
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Dan Endacott
 
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:12 pm

I haven't played Morrowind, but I would say The Champion of Cyrodil, his quest is just more epic than Dragonborns, and IMO Mehrunes Dagon's minions are scarier than dragons.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:48 pm

People need to stop thinking of the titles and think of what they can actually do, when you do think like that you will clearly see that the dragonborn can kill those 2 in just a few sec, simple because dragon shouts > everything
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:23 pm

People need to stop thinking of the titles and think of what they can actually do, when you do think like that you will clearly see that the dragonborn can kill those 2 in just a few sec, simple because dragon shouts > everything

Levitate>Shouts
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:10 pm

Well the COC cant actually die any more (being a daedra and all).

So him.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:50 pm

The dragonborn gets the power of shouts while the other two don't gain any special abilities so I'd say he wins this.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:43 pm

Dovahkiin = Blessed by Gods

Nerevarine = Like a God

Champion of Cyrodiil = Is a God

Yes I read your comment about Sheo, but we're talking Lore, and in the lore, he becomes a god.


this Wins can't kill a God :disguise:
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:25 pm

Dovahkiin got the shouts, the Champion of Cyrodiil got Spellmaking and the Nerevarine got Levitation. I'd say it's a tie there.

Dovahkiin is the Hero of Prohecy, with the deeds of the Champion and the Nerevarine building up to this. So I'd say that Dovahkiin wins there.

Dovahkiin is blessed with the power of Talos and Akatosh, the Champion is blessed by the Nine and the Nerevarine is blessed by Azura. I think the Champion wins there.

So far, Dovahkiin 2, Champion of Cyrodiil 2 and the Nerevarine 1.

In a fight, I think Dovahkiin would win as he can shout in addition to other means so...

Dovahkiin wins.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:38 pm

Well the COC cant actually die any more (being a daedra and all).

So him.


This.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:58 pm

The Dragonborn.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:24 pm

People need to stop thinking of the titles and think of what they can actually do, when you do think like that you will clearly see that the dragonborn can kill those 2 in just a few sec, simple because dragon shouts > everything



Both gameplay-wise and lore-wise, the Champion of Cyrodiil comes out on top.

Gameplay-wise, we're talking 100% damage reflect and 100% magic resistance. The ONLY way to damage him is with a bow, and to top it off, with Sheogorath's staff he can stop time around him. He'd literally be teleporting all over the place, for the other two, if they got in a fight.
Lore-wise, he's a friggin' God now. The other two aren't.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:00 pm

Nerevar beat Thu'um users in his first incarnation, so that might give him an edge over Dovahkiin. If we consider the CoC as Sheogorath he'd win, but otherwise it's a tie between the Nerevarine and Dovahkiin.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:38 pm

Champion of Cyrodiil has a staff that can Freeze time never dies and can make you mad crazy while drinking babies tiers
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 5:36 pm

Dovahkiin = Blessed by Gods

Nerevarine = Like a God

Champion of Cyrodiil = Is a God

Yes I read your comment about Sheo, but we're talking Lore, and in the lore, he becomes a god.


Occam's razor would agree but then Sheogorath isn't best known for making sense and telling the truth. As far as lore goes concerning him, it's best left up to the players imagination. Everyone is right and wrong at the same time as the mad prince would wish. :bonk:

As for the question..

CoC see above but also even if he is a god. Gods can be defeated by mortals as lore has proven.

Nerevarine was protected by the fate and prophecy but that ended when they defeated Dagoth Ur.

Dovahkiin I don't know as yet because their story hasn't been told in full yet but in a royal rumble, my money would be on them.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:18 pm

Is it lore that the COC went on to become Sheo? In my game at least he didn't, I did that with a different character...
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:35 pm

Both gameplay-wise and lore-wise, the Champion of Cyrodiil comes out on top.

Gameplay-wise, we're talking 100% damage reflect and 100% magic resistance. The ONLY way to damage him is with a bow, and to top it off, with Sheogorath's staff he can stop time around him. He'd literally be teleporting all over the place, for the other two, if they got in a fight.
Lore-wise, he's a friggin' God now. The other two aren't.


Wrong, in morrowind you could reach 100pts of sanctuary and magic resist literally making you immune to any and all damage, so the champion of cyrodiil is much weaker not to mention you have a 200pt run speed buff.

Mechanics wise morrowind characters could reach godmode with relative ease. In oblivion it wasnt far behind, in Skyrim the player character cant become a greek god, but he can one shot any monster out of sneak :P.

Lore wise id say: Dovakiin, Nerevarine, CoC
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:17 pm

Dovahkiin = Blessed by Gods

Nerevarine = Like a God

Champion of Cyrodiil = Is a God

Yes I read your comment about Sheo, but we're talking Lore, and in the lore, he becomes a god.

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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:29 pm

Wrong, in morrowind you could reach 100pts of sanctuary and magic resist literally making you immune to any and all damage, so the champion of cyrodiil is much weaker not to mention you have a 200pt run speed buff.

Mechanics wise morrowind characters could reach godmode with relative ease. In oblivion it wasnt far behind, in Skyrim the player character cant become a greek god, but he can one shot any monster out of sneak :P.

Also the Nerevar had a blind spell and constant effect restore health.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:12 pm

Just because CoC is a god doesn't mean he can't be killed by mortals. Lore-wise it's a toss up between all three.

Gameplay-wise, Nerevarine and CoC each can easily best the Dragonborn - just get the appropriate constant effect enchantments. For the same reason, Nerevarine vs. CoC should end in stalemate. So Nerevarine = CoC > Dragonborn.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 4:53 pm

Is it lore that the COC went on to become Sheo? In my game at least he didn't, I did that with a different character...


Yes this is lore wise. But Sheogorath says before you become him, that you will over the years lose your former self and become sheogorath, making the champion of cyrodil cease to exist after this point since he is now sheogorath as he used to be since the beginning. Which is why sheogorath in skyrim is the same as sheogorath before the champion becoming him.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:14 pm

The dragonborn gets the power of shouts while the other two don't gain any special abilities so I'd say he wins this.


Well, the CoC can cause flaming Dogs to fall from the sky, which would probably kill the Dragonborn if one of them landed on him. Not to mention, he could teleport the Dragonborn about 3,000 feet into the air, and watch him splatter all over the cobblestones. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayShxYJPLsY
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:30 pm

The Champion is a god. The other two are prophesied saviors. He could dance circles around them both.
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Post » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:58 pm

It depends, if we assume they're all just warriors.

- Nerevarine = I would say that this guy is special in any sort of way, I mean, he's the champion of Azura so I guess that gives him a few tricks but I think a normal person could be as good as them in combat with enough training. However, he did manage to beat an ASPECT of Hircine will I assume is no small feat. They also took down Almalexia, one of the three Dunmer gods, and arguably the most powerful of the three.

- Champion of Cyrodiil = Well, I always assumed that what you took over Sheogorath's role, you don't actually become a God but have the title of Mad God and have an extended influence over the Shivering Isle - like Sheo's second in command while he is away on vacation. In the main story, you didn't do much expect run errands for the TRUE hero in my opinion.

- Dragonborn = Now I think this person is probably the most powerful, due to their knowledge of Thu'um, which would give them a MASSIVE boost in combat efficiency. Plus we've not yet delved into the expansions yet so we might see some interesting things happen to our little dovah.

So, my judgement comes down to either Nerevarine or Dovahkiin if we're going of melee combat on a fair plane. HOWEVER, if the fight took place in the SI, The Champion of Cyrodiil would win hands down. :)
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