Is Jyggalag as powerful as Dagon?

Tactical genius? Yeah Jyggy would be better, but this is 1v1 we're talking about, so commanding an army is irrelevant here.
Martial Ability? Mehrunes is superior. He is destruction.

Since the Daedric Princes are the embodiment of their spheres, as far as raw strength and martial combat go it's safe to assume that Dagon is more powerful.

I'm not completely sure, but I think that some lore says Cyrus is the most powerful one. I know, I know, he didn't kill gods or anything, but there's some (unofficial?) lore thing about redguard heroes, I don't remember...

My vote. No one else stacks up, not even Umbra succesfully takes his soul.

I'm going to have to go with the Neravarine.

The Nerevarine rose to power largely because he was helped by outside forces. Sure he doesn't age, and is resistant to disease, but so is any powerful mage (with the exception that a powerful mage would technically still age but it would be unnoticeable for thousands of years.) The Nerevarine didn't even technically kill gods, he killed extremely powerful mortals, and while that is impressive, it's not nearly the same thing. When it comes down to it, the Nerevarine is good, not as powerful as some make him out to be.

The COC appears to me, at least, to be the most physically powerful. He overcame two Daedric Princes, and actually managed to slay one in a one on one battle. That shows you how immense the COCs' physical capabilities are, and then on top of that he becomes a Daedric Prince, the most powerful force in the ES universe right next to Aedra. The COC is definitely the most physically capable of all the protagonists, and if it came down to a battle between the protagonists of each game, the others would be crushed.

Didn't the Battlespire recruit require the use of several powerful artifacts? The CoC defeated Jyggalag in one on one combat in an unspecified way. The only artifact he/she required was Sheogorath's staff, and that was only so the CoC could completely mantle Sheogorath. The power he/she used against Jyggalag was his/her own.

Yeah, but MD is more powerful, so even if the dude in Redguard did need artifacts, it would balance out between him and the CoC.

The CoC also defeated Jyggalag's forces in war, and Jyggalag is more powerful than Dagon is in war tactics and command.

But Mehrunes Dagon is destruction. Pure destruction. It doesn't matter if Jyggalag has better tactics, Mehrunes Dagon doesn't need tactics. He just needs destruction, which he is VERY good at. Which again, with the Redguard dude's artifacts, it balances out his and the CoC's fight.

EDIT: Typos

So, overall, some Daedric Princes are more powerful than others? I thought they were all equally powerful, but in different ways.

What pretty much ended MD was when the recruit said MD's secret name and poked him. He may not be the most martially capable of them all, but he still is capable of fighting, in addition to being the most resourceful, cleaver, and intelligent of all the other heroes. And like I said earlier, this guy was behind major enemy territory, with no time for warm soft beds, and a recruit to the Battlemages. He really needed to play the politics and used quick wit and smarts to acquire powerful items.

Also, seti18, the staff of Sheogorath is a weapon of Sheogorath's direct essence so that pretty much cancels out the whole artifact weapon deal with the recruit.


The princes are powerful, yes indeed, but Mehrunes is destruction. You also have to remember that Mehrunes used more than his own troops, for he took Nocturnal's seducers and some of Hircine's minions for a Wild Hunt in the pocket realm. But, both the recruit and the CoC fought a prince 1v1, and the recruit did beat out the better 1v1 fighter. Also, I dare you to try and defeat Mehrunes Dagon when he busts out into the streets of the Imperial City. Yeah, the recruit had to fight him in a pocket realm, away from Mundus's nice and cozy barriers, deep inside enemy territory, right to the big man himself.

I don't see why they'd be equal. Pure destruction seems a lot more powerful than battle tactics, and other daedric-princely powers. But I'm sure that there are some more powerful than Dagon.

Actually, a lot of princes were, apparently, really afraid of Jyggy because of his tactics; he could literally predict everything they would do (which makes perfect sense).

From Jyggalag's story, I was assuming Dagon was one of those who feared Jyggalag's growing power and cursed him. Battle tactics may be less in-your-face and with a lesser wow factor, but Jyggalag's battle tactics won him more and more of Oblivion and made him a feared force to other Daedric Princes. Time doesn't seem to be more powerful than destruction, yet Akatosh mopped the floor with Dagon's face. Why is that?

And yet he couldn't predict that they'd curse him?


Actually, yes it does. Think about it, without time, one couldn't do anything. Nothing could happen, including destruction and planning. If you ask me, time would be one of the (if not the) most powerful forces, making Akatosh one of the (if not the) most powerful beings.

Then the real question is why is the Nerevarine winning by such a large margin in this thread? Cyrus, the Battlespire recruit, and the CoC took on real gods without being pawns, while the Nerevarine, a pawn, never took on a true god.

Because there are too many who love Morrowind TOO much that it blinds them.

The nerevarine only fought two/three weak gods, and an avatar of a prince. Also, the nerevarine is pretty dumb (though the CoC takes the cake, because the CoC WILL do anything he is told pretty much).

As for Cyrus, he pretty much beat Vivec due to a technicality. That is, he lied to Vivec very convincingly. But he did take on a dragon by himself!

I've never played Redguard, but I do have a basic understanding of the story. Yet, there is still something I am unsure of. Just how powerful is a dragon, on a scale of mudcrab to Akatosh?

dragons are semi-divine. They're very powerful, and the big ones tend to be quite old. As for power level, I'd wager powerful enough to take out a city or close to. If the legend of the Fang of Haynekhtnamet is accurate enough to compare them to a dragon, this is how powerful they are:

Didn't the cliffracers drive the dragons out of Vvardenfell, perhaps indicating a wide variation in power among dragons(cliffracers aren't really powerful)?

Cliff racers are horrid on nutrition, and like an invasive species, ate all the dragon's food to force them to move elsewhere.

The dragonlings are featured in DF, and they aren't that difficult.

I'd say the Nerevarine, being a god and all.

(S)He isn't a god, (s)he is just the incarnate or supposed incarnate of Nerevar. But what I want to know is, why do you think (s)he is one?