Well I know it's what you said; anybody can see that. So are you saying that Nocturnal's realm and what he/she represents is just a big vaccum of nothingness? Because that's what the void is, a vast nothingness.

yep, that's why no one knows what she really looks like or what she is like. A rep of a giant black hole, pretty much at this point.

And you guys thing the jygster is boring. ( sorry if I gave him a stupid nickname) :shrug:

sorry computer kinda crashed and posted the same thing, so I did't purposely double post

It is mentioned in a book, the one about an Azura worshiper when she prince hopped, that she thought Nocturnal was decent, but way too mysterious to really do much.

Wasn't he trying ultimately to get out of it?

He had a deathwish of a sort

Unbinding his soul from his realm was what he was plotting all along

Even other daedra respect Nocturnal, I believe they gave her the title "Ur-dra" or something like that?

All Daedra are just as powerful. Jyggalag is just more organised. Kinda like the races of Tamriel. Imperials are more prominent, because of how organised they are. Doesn't mean a lone Imperial can't be beaten up by an Altmer.

Organisation is one of the more important aspects of war.

Yea your right. I never really though about that but it makes sense.

Good explanation.

What about Sithis?

What about gravity?

Sithis is not a deadric prince. You might be able to tell though threw Hircine's sarcasm.

Yeah. Sithis is just a force. Death, I think. I'm not too sure what, exactly, though.

Well, I asked because I've read source which indicate that Sithis is Mephala in disguised.

That is the Night Mother we are talking about there. Atleast that is what most think.

No, it's chaos, black, 0, etc to Anu's order, white, infinit, etc

Are you saying that Sithis is padomay aligned?

Sithis is the soul of Padomay. And Lorkhan/Shor/Shezarr is the soul of Sithis, which makes it the soul of the soul of Padomay. You really need to do some reading at the library already.

So what about ebon arm?...who if I read about correctly isnt a deadric prince or aedra....if I read right....

I know... I'm just a lazy stinky poopy butt. And besides, I'm busy modding Pelagiad Expanded. Ich habe keine zeit!

White is nothing, black is everything. Death and life work just as well, too.

Money is power, therefore Clavicus Vile is the most powerful.

Jygallag frightened the other Princes enough to enslave him. They felt threatened. It might be because of his nature, though, rather than the fact he's "more powerful" which is very vague. It may be that he has more power to destroy the kind of dynamic change the other Princes stand for by making their realms grey and boring. He probably has more power in Oblivion whereas other Princes have more power on Nirn. Nobody actually worships Jyg that I know of.

This is why I think SI was a story to make the CoC insane. Jyggalag would have had followers at one point. And, if not, he would have at least had stories. I mean, there's many gods that have disappeared, yet we know of thier stories.

The Leper King before he was cursed (even though he's Dagon)
Lokhan / Shezzar / whatever
Most of the Aedra
The other guy in the Leper King story (I forgot his name)
And many more


My point is, everyone has some kind of story, no matter how unknown they are. Personally, I actually think this is more in-depth, and in character of Sheogorath, than the CoC simply becoming a god. Sheogorath is known for complex plots that are just to make someone insane.