after reading a few things on this board, i was curious if anyone knew a list of which provinces had success in resisting tiber and the empire, and recieved favorable conditions for a truce/surrender when they did join. after reading this post from another member,

"In 2E 862, High King Thassad II was resisting Imperial invasion. He eventually dies, thrusting the Crowns, who wanted to continue to resist Imperial rule and keep things the same, and the Forebears, who wanted to accept Imperial rule, into civil war. The Crowns are lead by Prince A'tor, heir to Thassad. They continue to win over the Forebears and Imperials, but Dram, a famous Dunmer assassin, picks him off at the island of Stros M'Kai. Lord Richton, the man who beat A'tor at the battle, is then made ruler over Hammerfell, as appointed by Tiber Septim.

In 2E 864, Cyrus the Restless, a Redguard mercenary, and a group called the Restless League incite insurrection in the province; they defeat the Imperial fleet there and repel the ground forces, and Cyrus eventually confronts Lord Richton on a Dwemer Dirigible. Richton cheats and beats him, but the weapon Cyrus is weilding, the Soulsword of A'tor, gains a will of its own and defeats Richton, forcing Tiber Septim to sue for peace in the province.

On a side note, the events involving Cyrus, according to some, make him an incarnation of the HoonDing, the god that "makes the way" for the Redguard people."

i'm inclined to believe hammerfell and the redguards are in this successful group, as well as morrowind and the dunmer because of the one book in morrowind detailing vivecs armisitice with tiber. i can only assume that morrowind got favorable conditions because tiber had trouble defeating three man god's, even with numidium. anyone have any more details on hammerfell's side of things? or any other provinces?

Hammerfell was definitely Septim's greatest challenge, if not the most powerful enemy. By comparison, the conquest of Black Marsh and Elsweyr are never mentioned, and supposedly were simply absorbed with ease by the power Cyrodiil wields when it gets its act together. High Rock and Skyrim are not often mentioned either (a handful of battles), but they seem to have been allied vassals more than a conquered people. Skyrim in particular was very open to Talos' rule, and he seems to have courted them and taken advantage of cultural ties and mutual foes. IIRC, Vivec proposed the armistice before a long, costly war like the one he fought with Reman. With Numidium anything is possible, and the hardest fighting likely took place in the original unification of Cyrodiil itself.

i assume tiber's difficulty with hammerfell lies in the redguard's being described as the greatest warriors in tamriel.

is there no account of the war to unite tamriel? no accounts of the battles fought to incorporate each province? if so thats a shame, theres a ton of potential for great lore there

anyways anyone else with any knowledge of individual province's experience in fighting the empire please share!

Heh, the great Tiber gap is nothing. We have one source that 'and Reman went on to conquer the rest of Tamriel,' and that's it. It's a good bet that that is mostly BS, but still.

Edit: There are a few scattered details about how the conquest went. High Rock attempted to quickly develop flotillas to combat the incredibly powerful Altmeri navies. It didn't go so well. The battles on the mainland around Valenwood were a bloody stalemate until Numidium showed up and took Alinor in minutes.

Think about it this way, Vivec wowned up giving away pieces to a giant automatron, I don't think he wanted war anymore.

What my PC wouldn't give to see Numdium waste entire armies, navies, and cities :drool:

I thought Morrowind was the most successful at resisting the empire. That's why its a backwards province, right? I mean, not as developed as any of the other... Their culture remained strong. There's barely a sign of Imperial influence.

Most successful at resisting Tiber's conquest? Hammerfell. With the Stros M'kai Rebellion, Tiber Septim was forced to renegotiate new terms.
Most successful at getting good terms? Morrowind. Vivec wrote a treaty before hostilities even began.

I kind of wish that, instead of expounding upon pre-Alessian Cyrodiil so much in KOTN, MK had instead focused on creating a more or less complete version of the Remanada -- an epic poem detailing the conquest of Tamriel, myth-style, would've been awesome. As of now, all we have is basically that line that Paws mentioned and the bits we can get from Tedders' 2920.

The PGE hints at the humiliation Summerset suffered under a Reman occupation, but I don't know if this is outdated or not.

High Rock and Hammerfell were subject to much unrest. At the time of Daggerfall, it was 40-something kingdoms, many of which quarreling with one another and caught up in political turmoil. Of course thanks to The Warp in the West, it was reduced to Daggerfall, Sentinel, Wayrest, and the Orcish territories all pledging allegiance to the empire.

I have to agree, all-in-all Hammerfell was probably the most rebellious. Morrowind seemed unusually peaceful in joining them.

So few choices. The average ones were in from the beginning or got sodomized by Goldfinger. The ones left are the treaty makers and those with the dramatic comeback from near total defeat.