Most TES fans are definitely on consoles as they're so much cheaper and easier to use. I don't think the PC Digital Distribution sell numbers are ever told, so the PC sales may be more than 10%.

I think the PC version of Skyrim is going to bring Bethesda a lot of money. Why? PC Digital Distribution is more common now and it gives the developer more money per customer. Also the game's minimum system requirements can't be much higher than Oblivion's so more people have the required hardware to run the game. The mod support is also a big reason to get the game for PC.

Wet was not a PC game..... and Wet was one of the coolest games i have ever seen.
And you're right that theres no way OB only sold 500k copies. not a fukin chance, 15 million more like!

Heh. No, he didn't. FO series probably has an even bigger PC following than TES does.

Thanks!

It really depends on the game and how complicated controls feel on either system. I greatly prefer playing Just Cause 2 with a controller, but I prefer playing Borderlands with keyboard and mouse. There are some games that might not work right on controllers or keyboards. It's impossible to play a heavily keybound game like WoW or something on a console, while I think a controller suits the functionality of Assassin's Creed better. First vs third person also matters a lot, where you really just have so much more control of aiming with a keyboard and mouse, but a controller may be more suited for hack-and-slash third person. I don't even know whether I'll prefer either of those POVs im Skyrim, so it's really too early to make a decision. I doubt I'd hate the keyboard and mouse controls anyways because I've used them for both Morrowind and Oblivion with no complaints. But the option is nice.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games

I know it's wikipedia but Oblivion doesn't even make that list, and some of the sales figures for the games aren't really that high. Certainly not high enough for Oblivion to have sold 15 million copies.

Remember guys, best rated does not equal best selling. Call of Duty is one of the best selling games ever, but is thoroughly lambasted by critics. On the other hand, Red Dead Redemption won game of the year in so many places, but I don't even know anyone who's played it.

If those lists are accurate oblivion is not in the top selling for any of the consoles, let alone PC :mellow:

Wikipedia to the rescue.

The Xbox 360 version of Oblivion has sold roughly 1.9 million copies. By January 18, 2007 (two months before the game's release on PS3) Oblivion had sold over 3 million copies. This means that the PC version of the game had to have sold at least 1.1 million copies, and that's assuming that all of those 1.9 million units had been sold by 2007. Which they hadn't, I might add. No figures for PS3 sales, but the PC version of Oblivion has sold at least 1.1 million copies.

That is well over 10%. Try 20%-40%, Bethesda.

i think bethesda themselves are much more aware of their numbers than your NPD report should i add to that that they are a private company so they dont realy give a crap about NPD reports they are not on the exchange

@ruiner im a big fan of wikipedia but its still only a open encyclopedia bethesda themselves are a much better source

are you [censored] kidding? modern warfare 2 sold that. theres no [censored] way oblivion came close to that no matter how you love it

Oblivion hasn't even surpassed 2 million sales on any of the platforms it's available on, lulz. Gotta' love dem OVER ZEALOUS FANS OF A SERIES BECAUSE LOL AUTO-CENSOR.

i was jesting (a bit) theres not many games that get bought as much as that, and the most purchased game i know of is WoW. that one has something between 10-12 million purchases i think and many people own more than one account, in fact some own more than 2. i can't possibly believe that that crappy modern warfare 2 got 15 million purchases, that game was crappy as hell, i loved modern warfare tho.

Oblivion is a single player game, games that are single player only tend not to get as popular as the MMOs and the first person shooters with a lot of focus on the multiplayer in them.

but i will not believe oblivion has less than 800k purchases on PC i would want to believe theres more but... pirates reduce the number a whole lot. theres a lot more people who like to play first person shooters, and many people who ONLY play those, much less people who like the whole fantasy world and even less who like games with a little bit of complexity. and even less who are fans of RPGs (or so i would believe) but less than 800k isn't disappointing, its insulting. even if morrowind was (in my opinion) better.

yea its just funny how people think every tittle a gold mines and that the industry is going so well. I live in montreal and through some conference and presentations i know fore sure that 85% of all tittles lose money and 15% pay for the rest of the loss(approximation). also even franchises like assassin's creed suffered from the 2008 economy slowing in fact ubisoft lost money with assassin's creed but they made enought money with dance central and their michael jackson game wich cost nothing to produce.

@Lordofdestruction i will beleive what bethesda said because they have no reasons to lie to us. like i said earlier they are not on the exchange they dont need to lie to attract investors Zenimax is a private company.

We know oblivion shipped more than 1.7 million copies in the first 20 days after its release on Xbox and PC from http://pc.ign.com/articles/700/700917p1.html i can hardly believe that out of those 1.7 million only about 200k or so would've been on PC...
but i guess yeah they wouldn't have a reason to lie to us, even if this is damn hard to believe if you look oat all the mods. right now Tesnexus has precisely 22830 oblivion mods.

and i do know that it went over 2 million on xbox 360 it went to 3,2 mil from http://www.google.is/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=oblivion+sales and if i understand it right it also says ps3 was 2.12 mil copies.

Morrowind (8 million)sold more copies then oblivion. With the vast majority of them on PC. Daggerfall was a million seller plus, only on PC. Arena sold well, only on PC.

Oblivion was on steam as of 2007. As of April of 2006, One month after it's release, Beth announced the game had sold 1.7 million copies. Going by NPD alone (which is a hugely flawed system but it is what all the figures are based on like it or not) Both versions of the game on the 360 had sold almost 1 million copies. Both versions on PC were actually higher up on the sales charts and showed around 600k in sales. This is Just a month after launch. PS3 version did not come out until the end of 2007.

Look up the NPD numbers for yourself, it is easy to do. I am sorry to say, I think someone has mistook a statement at some point. Or as the quote stated, Mr. Hines told the OP what he wanted to hear, as that's what PR does.

In the end fellas and ladies, no matter the rhetoric of the faithful, if PC were really dying, no one would develop for it. I will link this story again showing in fact the PC gaming market is bigger then any one console market(but not all combined). All 3 of the major platforms are doing well.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/03/01/pc-is-strong-pc-games-revenue-up-20/

"90%" is too round a number, and as others have gone over, the maths doesn't add up. It's an off-the-cuff comment meant to mean "majority", not a statistically exact figure.

The fact that you searched and tried to prove a point about this,shows that your actually worried in the first place. If you was that confident,you wouldn't have to prove anything.
The gaming world is changing whether we like it or not. If you enjoy your platform,stick with it and enjoy it,why prove something if your not worried?

An argument without substance is not an argument at all.

If you know anything about what's going on around you,you'd know my post holds weightt.The fact that you said what you said proves it.

Did you even bother to read the thread title?

Looking up numbers to confirm 10% is wack.

Hello, Mcfly?

Bzzzz wrong answer:)

I looked it up because I hate people misstating facts and getting away with falsehoods. You sir, are a trouble-maker who attacks anyone who does not agree with you. And frankly, you are 100% wrong but no matter how much your proven to be wrong you continue your same, stale old rhetoric.

Most game devs even now agree consoles really are holding game development back. Consoles are 6 and 7 year old tech, that was surpassed in all technical areas half a decade ago...(one could argue that consoles were old tech surpassed before they were on the market in fact)

http://bf3blog.com/2011/04/dice-consoles-are-holding-pc-games-back/

http://kotaku.com/#!5701066/crysis-developers-consoles-are-holding-pc-games-back

And that's just 2 developers, there are many many more who have said the same. I am sorry little buddy, actual facts don't support your world view. Want a hug?

I doubt that figure includes digital sales (Steam for example) only retail. And to be honest as long as Bethesda makes good PC versions I couldn't care less if we are in the minority. :laugh:

This is, my dear st frantic, a forum - a hub of discussion and collective thought. "I'm right because I'm right" is a concept that would quickly pull any forum into pointlessness, for you cannot properly discuss anything if you are unwilling to defend your views. Whether I am saying that the sky is green, or that PC gaming is dead, my evidence for this cannot be "Oh, look around you", for that defeats the entire point. I am not trying to argue with you on this point, for an argument requires two participants, and at best I would have one, however you should really reconsider this whole "I'm right because I'm right" idea - even if you are right, that offers nothing to the discussion. I would hazard a guess that none of us are here for any other reason than that we enjoy a good discussion on topics of interest to us, however you seem actively hostile towards the idea of even accepting opposing views exist - to the point of using the existence of evidence for a view as evidence of its falsehood (Such a concept, I am sure, would hold up in no civilised debate!)

So I merely ask: Why? Why are you here, if not to discuss? If you are, indeed, willing to discuss, then surely you must see the value of evidence on both sides!

1:,I did not say PC gaming was dead.
2: I never stated that i was 100% right. ( i have my opinion ,like everyone else )
3: I do enjoy good discussion,if i feel the need to do so.
4: Actually,when i say look around you,and you also read the the topic title,it doesn't defeat the point at all,it is the point.
5: I'm hear because i'm interested in the elder scrolls and skyrim,that,should be obvious.
6: Also,you originally jumped in ,when i was responding to someone else. He was trying to prove something,that obviously effect him,what are the reasons for that? I can guess what those reasons are ,does that me i'm 100% right,maybe not.If you look deeper into what he did,and then my response,you'll see why i said what i said,which in turn,lead you to quote me.....why?