Moth priests and zero-sum

Post » Thu May 26, 2011 9:54 pm

Well as Nalion said, CHIM is the state of mind needed to reach the final subgradient, not the actual endeavor/goal itself.


Yeah... i keep forgetting that crap.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:38 pm

I know there was someone else who achieved Zero Sum. I didn't just make that up. It's in SOME text somewhere; I may just be describing it wrong.

I'll ask again, you aren't thinking of http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/on_artaeum.shtml
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:26 am

Zeron-sum is the act of knowing everything, but losing your individuality. They see it as the pinnacle of enlightenment, because it is.

Gee, sounds exciting. Not. What the word enlightenment means is different for many people.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:22 am

Doesn't CHIM imply the ability to be arrogant? You cannot acheive CHIM if you don't have the ability to use it. Not some extraordinary meta-arrogance.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:14 am

That seems to be a practical roadblock, but the rights of others don't really matter if you are the only one that truly exists. Mythopeia can't force you to make nice if you are standing at its head.

Just saying I is a better way of going about it.


But that's the thing. To enter into CHIM, you must acknowledge that there are other individuals.

Thus, am apparent Solipsist like Shezarr can never achieve CHIM. He si thus a fool. He peruses CHIM as his chosen means to reach the final subgradient (even though there are others) yet due to his own personality and mindset, CHIM is impossible for him. So, though he may claim he is not locked into a predictable pattern like his brothers, he is actually not unlike them at all.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:49 am

Sorry. I didn't know you even asked. Concerning that book you linked, no that's not it. It COULD be the person, Iachesis, but I haven't found anything yet that could point to him
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:57 am

My argument, should the world try to eat me?


"I existed, and therefor will always exist. You cannot unwrite me from the trueness of the universe, you can only lie about me, which is not the same thing. Time is a temporal myth of man. I existed, I must exist, and I will always exist. My death is only a part of your contrived narrative. I come again and again, and can never be truely destroyed. Try again, dreamsleave! You cannot hold me. I will come back. I always come back. By your own rules, killing me brings me back to life. No benefit without deficit. Conversely, No deficit, without benefit. You can never kill me."
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 12:14 pm

But that's the thing. To enter into CHIM, you must acknowledge that there are other individuals.

Thus, am apparent Solipsist like Shezarr can never achieve CHIM. He si thus a fool. He peruses CHIM as his chosen means to reach the final subgradient (even though there are others) yet due to his own personality and mindset, CHIM is impossible for him. So, though he may claim he is not locked into a predictable pattern like his brothers, he is actually not unlike them at all.

Which Lorkhan? Seriously.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 6:07 am

My argument, should the world try to eat me?
"I existed, and therefor will always exist. You cannot unwrite me from the trueness of the universe, you can only lie about me, which is not the same thing. Time is a temporal myth of man. I existed, I must exist, and I will always exist. My death is only a part of your contrived narrative. I come again and again, and can never be truely destroyed. Try again, dreamsleave! You cannot hold me. I will come back. I always come back. By your own rules, killing me brings me back to life. No benefit without deficit. Conversely, No deficit, without benefit. You can never kill me."

But you can do it to yourself. I never see the Dreamsleeve at the end of the evaporation. Just a yin yang for the rest of time.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 1:35 pm

But you can do it to yourself. I never see the Dreamsleeve at the end of the evaporation. Just a yin yang for the rest of time.



I dont think even the gods can truely annihilate themselves utterly. They can wipe themselves out, but their concept always remains, as does the stain of their existance.


In a timeless state, anything that exists, has always existed. I am all my infinite incarnations all at once-- Including the one present at the convention. I cannot be undone.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 3:13 am

I dont think even the gods can truely annihilate themselves utterly. They can wipe themselves out, but their concept always remains, as does the stain of their existance.
In a timeless state, anything that exists, has always existed. I am all my infinite incarnations all at once-- Including the one present at the convention. I cannot be undone.

A conscientious objector to lunar currency, then.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 2:04 am

Sorry. I didn't know you even asked. Concerning that book you linked, no that's not it. It COULD be the person, Iachesis, but I haven't found anything yet that could point to him

I highly doubt it was him. The Psijics and endeavourists of the other kind are rather diametrically opposed.
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