Mother kills her two children

Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:00 pm

yeah, but also the death penalty is an easy way out, most people would rather take it than be stuck in prison for life. thats why i say to hell with the death penalty let her rot in solitary confinement.

They still have to take care of her. Our prisons aren't hellholes, especially not women's prisons.

There isn't any reason or excuse for this

One doesn't expect to have disabled children. While I don't doubt this woman has had problems stretching back to youth, there is the off-chance (slim. Very slim) that something like this would not have happened if she had had her desired normal children.

But when you're dealing with a possible sociopath/non-human, you can never really tell.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:37 pm

yeah, but also the death penalty is an easy way out, most people would rather take it than be stuck in prison for life. thats why i say to hell with the death penalty let her rot in solitary confinement.

Yes where they get 3 meals, exercise equipment, the internet, etc. Its too comfy in there to be an actual punishment.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:33 pm

Shieze, I feel bad about killing cockroaches sometimes... I mean they're kind of cute when you think of it, right?

Yeah, but it was the best anology I could think of, besides taking out the trash.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:05 pm

Shieze, I feel bad about killing cockroaches sometimes


i dont, i can kill things just nothing of higher intelligence, like if i were to accidentally hit a dog with my car i would feel really bad, there is one excetion though, cats...i hate them, my sisters cat thinks its funny to take a crap on my bed every so often, it already ruined one of my matresses <_<


i hope leydenne doesnt read that.....

and on topic, yeah the thing about feeling nothing at all was what really got me. the fact that she acted like it was no big deal to strangle her children, and what makes it worse is one was an infant and the other one still very young, they couldnt even do anything to stop her. :(

Yes where they get 3 meals, exercise equipment, the internet, etc. Its too comfy in there to be an actual punishment.


thats why i said solitary confinement, well anyways if they do kill her i say give her the chair...just turn down the power a bit, ya know make it last, she deserves it.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:33 pm

So dose that mean your getting a vasectomy ? ([censored] it you know I svck at spelling lol).
Also didnt Hitler have pretty much the same line of thinking as you ?


So you think my stance on this issue equates me with Hitler eh... that's a pretty harsh accusation.

Anyway to play along with this whole Hitler thing you just brought up out of nowhere, I ask you this:

If someone as evil as Hitler had children (and if anyone were to be equated with him, in my mind it would have to be the mother) , would you still think my stance on this issue is so abhorrent?

I realize I have upset people with my stance on this issue, but attacks against me and my opinion are quite unnecessary, I wish to have reasoned discussion, not a flame war.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:53 pm

Why is it that no matter what article I read on Yahoo, CNN, or almost any other news website, it seems like the comments in the comments section are made up of the biggest idiots the internet has to offer? Looking at the comments on this article makes me want to take a break from the world for a while...

One day my palm will leave a permanent indent on my face...
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:06 pm

So you think my stance on this issue equates me with Hitler eh... that's a pretty harsh accusation.

Anyway to play along with this whole Hitler thing you just brought up out of nowhere, I ask you this:

If someone as evil as Hitler had children (and if anyone were to be equated with him, in my mind it would have to be the mother) , would you still think my stance on this issue is so abhorrent?

I realize I have upset people with my stance on this issue, but attacks against me and my opinion are quite unnecessary, I wish to have reasoned discussion, not a flame war.

hitlers decendants/relatives who have survived have decided to make a pact to never have kids, and I dont beleive in the sins of the father mentality. By the logic everyone would be killing eachother because of your great x24 grandfather probobally pissed of one of my ancestors, kids dont inherit the sins of their parents. It has nothing to do with them, no different to hating someone for skin/gender, because your hating them just for being born, stupid logic.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:51 pm

So you think my stance on this issue equates me with Hitler eh... that's a pretty harsh accusation.

Anyway to play along with this whole Hitler thing you just brought up out of nowhere, I ask you this:

If someone as evil as Hitler had children (and if anyone were to be equated with him, in my mind it would have to be the mother) , would you still think my stance on this issue is so abhorrent?

I realize I have upset people with my stance on this issue, but attacks against me and my opinion are quite unnecessary, I wish to have reasoned discussion, not a flame war.

Hitler did have family who moved here following the war. They're protected by lawyers and are currently ending the family with themselves.

Why is it that no matter what article I read on Yahoo, CNN, or almost any other news website, it seems like the comments in the comments section is made up of the biggest idiots the internet has to offer? Looking at the comments on this article makes me want to take a break from the world for a while...

One day my palm will leave a permanent indent on my face...

Oh yeah, it's a real wretched hide, the comments section. I actually had to train myself not to read them or it would ruin my day.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:45 pm

hitlers decendants/relatives who have survived have decided to make a pact to never have kids, and I dont beleive in the sins of the father mentality. By the logic everyone would be killing eachother because of your great x24 grandfather probobally pissed of one of my ancestors, kids dont inherit the sins of their parents. It has nothing to do with them, no different to hating someone for skin/gender, because your hating them just for being born, stupid logic.

not trying to flame you Xycolian, but he kinda does have a point, if the parent makes a mistake the child shouldnt be punished for it in fear of making the same mistake.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:10 pm

If someone as evil as Hitler had children (and if anyone were to be equated with him, in my mind it would have to be the mother) , would you still think my stance on this issue is so abhorrent?

Yes. Everyone has the right to produce children, regardless of their own faults. Murder of their off-spring then forced sterilization is abhorrent.

I realize I have upset people with my stance on this issue, but attacks against me and my opinion are quite unnecessary, I wish to have reasoned discussion, not a flame war.

When you say that is for the best that these children died, removing the mother's genes from the collective pool, you're gonna get some hate.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:21 pm

A loon mother kills her children because of a stupid reason (considering that there is adoption...). The fact that autism comes into play means little, children are still dead regardless but with just another superficial reason to put behind it. With that being said, what about the other children who have been viciously slain, no threads on them either huh (not unless they have impairments, of course)?
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If someone as evil as Hitler had children (and if anyone were to be equated with him, in my mind it would have to be the mother) , would you still think my stance on this issue is so abhorrent?

I realize I have upset people with my stance on this issue, but attacks against me and my opinion are quite unnecessary, I wish to have reasoned discussion, not a flame war.

I wasn't aware that "evil" was passed on to one's children. If he had children they'd surely receive ill-will for their relation to the man, but unless they were raised to follow their father's beliefs then there's no reason to believe that they would be different than anyone else's kids.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:39 pm

A loon mother kills her children because of a stupid reason (considering that there is adoption...). The fact that autism comes into play means little, children are still dead regardless but with just another superficial reason to put behind it. With that being said, what about the other children who have been viciously slain, no threads on them either huh (not unless they have impairments, of course)?


probably because they didnt put it on yahoo news, if they did it would probably show up here in the forums, this isnt here just because they had impairments.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:43 pm

probably because they didnt put it on yahoo news, if they did it would probably show up here in the forums, this isnt here just because they had impairments.


Yea, it is because if it wasn't then http://www.click2houston.com/news/828906/detail.html would've taken up it's slot.
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Post » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:10 am

Pakistani mother, autistic children, murder, Texas, death penalty.

10... 9... 8... 7...

thats pretty much it. but of course, she will be on death row for many many years. i have an autistic cousin (not asbergers) and it is pretty hard raising one. ive seen my aunt just have enough and go blow off some steam in the garage or just yell at the kid. she keeps her cool for the most part but just certain things just get to her. i can easily see how someone could do this out of rage. of course, her attorney would just tell her to plead insanity even if she isnt. the reason she may have seemed cool is probably the shock of herself actually doing it.
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Post » Fri Apr 16, 2010 1:17 am

Yea, it is because if it wasn't then http://www.click2houston.com/news/828906/detail.html would've taken up it's slot.

Not everyone in the world is looking at Houston's news. It is a terrible shame that those five children were killed, yes, but how are we supposed to know about it?

People die everyday. Man, woman, child. Should each and everyone of them get their thread?
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:05 pm

Yea, it is because if it wasn't then http://www.click2houston.com/news/828906/detail.html would've taken up it's slot.

well then make a topic for it, or discuss it here, iif your mad about people not posting topics on other child deaths why dont you post them?
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:13 pm

Yea, it is because if it wasn't then http://www.click2houston.com/news/828906/detail.html would've taken up it's slot.

I was still in elementary school when that happened. This article reminded me a lot of it.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:57 pm

hitlers decendants/relatives who have survived have decided to make a pact to never have kids, and I dont beleive in the sins of the father mentality. By the logic everyone would be killing eachother because of your great x24 grandfather probobally pissed of one of my ancestors, kids dont inherit the sins of their parents. It has nothing to do with them, no different to hating someone for skin/gender, because your hating them just for being born, stupid logic.

I suppose my stance on this issue was derived from a search to find something good about this whole story. If the children were still alive, would their mother ever be pleased with them? I think it would be safe to say that she wouldn't be seeing as she was so displeased with them as to commit murder.
They could have been sent to foster homes or been raised in other un desirable ways of growing up. I suppose that my frail state of being cannot imagine living & being raised in such conditions, so I think their death was the best thing that ever occurred to them.

Of course they could have grown up to be very successful in their lives, even against all the odds they would have been faced with. Losing the opportunity to possibly have 2 fine members of society makes me partially regret having said what I did, but I still think that death is preferable to the challenges they would have faced in life. You could say that I am weak willed and I would not argue. I have personally had problems with my parents as a child and after living through it would have definitely preferred death as opposed to living in those conditions... and I fear I may not have become a better person as a result of those experiences (hence my weak will and feelings on this subject).

I hope you can understand now why I said what I did, I will not be returning to this horrible topic again.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:57 pm

I suppose my stance on this issue was derived from a search to find something good about this whole story. If the children were still alive, would their mother ever be pleased with them? I think it would be safe to say that she wouldn't be seeing as she was so displeased with them as to commit murder.
They could have been sent to foster homes or been raised in other un desirable ways of growing up. I suppose that my frail state of being cannot imagine living & being raised in such conditions, so I think their death was the best thing that ever occurred to them.

Of course they could have grown up to be very successful in their lives, even against all the odds they would have been faced with. Losing the opportunity to possibly have 2 fine members of society makes me partially regret having said what I did, but I still think that death is preferable to the challenges they would have faced in life. You could say that I am weak willed and I would not argue. I have personally had problems with my parents as a child and after living through it would have definitely preferred death as opposed to living in those conditions... and I fear I may not have become a better person as a result of those experiences (hence my weak will and feelings on this subject).

I hope you can understand now why I said what I did, I will not be returning to this horrible topic again.

Who gives a [censored] what the mother thinks, would you kill yourself just because someone dissaproves of how you were born ? People have had dissaproval for being born, and still have to put up with [censored] they cant help/thats not a problem. And no death is not a good outcome, death is definate, life is not. Life brings hapiness and sadness, death, nothing. how do you know the foster homes would be undesireable ? You dont. Also you may say your life was bad, death is preferable, but dont try to use that to say death is preferable to others who are not you. Sorry but you seem to be thinking you know best here, in a situation you have little knowlage on.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:33 pm

A loon mother kills her children because of a stupid reason (considering that there is adoption...). The fact that autism comes into play means little, children are still dead regardless but with just another superficial reason to put behind it. With that being said, what about the other children who have been viciously slain, no threads on them either huh (not unless they have impairments, of course)?

There have been threads on such things. I think someone suggested I be banned for the last time I made such a thread. The thread got closed, and now it's gone. Want the article?

http://cbs2.com/local/san.antonio.woman.2.1103438.html
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Post » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:02 am

There have been threads on such things. I think someone suggested I be banned for the last time I made such a thread. The thread got closed, and now it's gone. Want the article?

http://cbs2.com/local/san.antonio.woman.2.1103438.html

That would happen in San Antonio. You talk about a place full of degenerates....it's worse than El Paso.

Also, that is truly terrifying.
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Post » Thu Apr 15, 2010 7:22 pm

Well that svcks.

As others have said before me, I think there's more to it than "I wanted normal kids". It's a horrendous thing that she killed her children but there's some mental issue going on there, and she needs to be institutionalized. Not to mention she also called the police instead of trying to run and hide like any real murderer would have done. It's a tough call, really. Not going any further for fear of igniting more argument fuel or politics/religions/etc.

Edit: And as for people saying she's a monster for feeling nothing after killing them, she killed her own children. That'd be pretty traumatizing and traumatized people can appear to be unscathed because of the utter shock they're in, I don't know if this is the case with her but I'd like to think it is.
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Post » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:34 am

There have been threads on such things. I think someone suggested I be banned for the last time I made such a thread. The thread got closed, and now it's gone. Want the article?

http://cbs2.com/local/san.antonio.woman.2.1103438.html

that is just sick......like completely and utterly sick.
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Post » Fri Apr 16, 2010 4:16 am

that is just sick......like completely and utterly sick.

can't say I didn't warn you.
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