what were there like...3 or 4? they did make it a whacky wasteland thing, so maybe they realized it was a bit goofy for the series...still real fun though

More love for MZ. The path may have been a little railed, and the characters a bit one dimensional; but like the size of the Strip and Freeside, what I see on screen doesn't always equate what my mind's eye sees. Granted, I do like DM more.

I am against Mothership Zeta because Bethesda took a running joke in Fallout (Aliens) and made a DLC out of it. Making aliens apart of Fallout Canon :sick: Aliens have no place in Fallout and Fallout does not need Aliens. They have never been anything but an easter egg in past Fallouts. Bethesda just wanted to add more poinless crap to shoot at all in the name of "EPICNESS!"

I see it as nothing but an easter egg a really big one. One that isn't found on easter but found in August :meh:

well...to be fair, its their story, not ours...and why don't aliens have any place?

Thing is though, the game devs do just that. Develop their games. If they decide aliens are a part of Fallout, then they are. Whether certain players like it or not. This is not a democracy, we are simply here to enjoy what we are given and report back any faults.. Unless I'm severely mistaken and we can indeed decide what is Fallout canon or not?

They are out of place because Fallout is humanity trying to rebuild from our greatest mistake. New cultures building and having to deal with human nature "war, war never changes." Including Aliens just ruins that. Bethesda's stupid attempt to add the question "did aliens play a role in the great war?" Changes the entire nature of Fallout. The Great War was humanities fault alone. Aliens would mean its not our fault. "War, war never changes, but for when Aliens ATTACK! :shocking:"

We don't need Aliens. Fallout already has so much going for it. It does not need canon breaking/Fallout breaking aliens. If Fallout keeps going with more Mothership Zeta crap Fallout will just become "Fallout Resistance!" or Fallout War of the Worlds. Save the wasteland from the Alien invaders!

Aliens were just easter eggs in past games, nothing more. Might as well say Star Trek is Canon in Fallout as well :thumbsup:


"The end of the world occurred pretty much as we had predicted; too many humans and not enough space or resources to go around. The details are trivial and pointless, the reasons as always, purely human ones." Fallout 2 intro.

I've got to go with Mothership Zeta, Dead Money just seems boring plus it's harder.

The aliens in battle suits were way harder than ghost people. What MSZ and DM are you playing???

I thought that the Shi had an alien corpse, hell then had a Xeno Biology lab.

Aliens are a part of Fallout canon. You can either choose to accept this fact or ignore it. You cannot however deny it. Hell if the devs wanted they could have giant flying squirrels that fire flaming balloons of toffee apples into fallout canon if they so choose. It's their game remember...

To the pitt was the worst of the fo3 dlc Broken Steel was the best it fixes that bad ending, adds more quests, and adds harder enemies for play throughs everywhere in the game.

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Xeno does not mean Space people. Just like Alien does not mean "Space people." Both can also mean strange, known, not of the norm. Xeno Biology Lab applied to their plant project to remove radiation from the soil. They were also studying the mutations.

Wanamingos are also called "Aliens" in Fallout 2 but they arn't aliens from space.

They are "canon" now. They were not before. Bethesda should have added fire flaming balloons of toffee apples, would have made more sense then Aliens, IMO. Aliens ruin the whole point of Fallout. I choose to ingore that piece of crap Mothership Zeta. I write it off as a giant easter egg that was added so people have have epic crap to shoot at and new toys.

I am fully aware of the word Xeno, I also know that the Xeno Programme wasn't connected to the Botany one. They had a very heavy, humanoid corpse which the Hubo's stole and which can be returned to Sheng, unfortunately her quotes aren't on the Vault.

We are going to have a pedantic dispute are we?

They don't mean space people. They just don't know what they are. They are studying them. Just like they call the Wanamingos, "aliens." Programs are related, Sheng works on both.

I am not aware of any quest relating to Sheng about getting bodies back from the Hubo's

I am putting Fallout 2 in...

Search your feelings Styles you know it to be true! :starwars:

so uhh....dead money is the better one by general consensus is that what we came up with here?

Lots of times game dev's do things that some players don't agree with. You can't change it though, it would be like trying to make your favourite author change the plot of your favourite book because you don't agree with it.

Its been a couple months since I last played Fallout 2. I have a week off so now should be a good time to play it again.

Nice emoticon :foodndrink:



No I can't change the past but I can come on to a forum and express my hate about a DLC that just craps all over the core value of Fallout. I can also hope such a thing never happens again.

I got no "aliens had something to do with the great war" from MZ. MZ was cool, it shouldn t really ever happen again though. I thought it was well done.

That being said, DM is just better in every way possible. I can only hope the rest of the nv dlc are close to as good as DM. DM did it all for me....

I guess you did not pay attention to the nuclear launch codes taken from that General's brain. I don't know his rank. The Aliens had the launch codes! Watching man kind for thousands of years. Does not say they did but it leaves room for "maybe they did." Still I agree with the rest of what you said.

Of course you can Styles. I haven't been a member of these forums for very long, though I have already seen many people that think the opposite. The liked MZ and would like to see another appearance of aliens in some form. I don't want to start an argument here but it always seems like the same people jumping in to drown out those voices/ideas. There just doesn't seem to be any room for compromise. (even though at the end of the day it all comes down to what the devs want anyway.)

....this is my first multi-page post by the way...feelin pretty proud of myself, so proud, in fact that I will allow myself to use an emoticon to show my joy :celebration:

Isn't their canonity decided only in the future titles, though? As in, by a reference in the next game. They are now part of Fallout 3's storyline should the player decide to go through that part, but there's no telling how they will be referenced in the future - if at all. As an optional "extra" questline they cannot be canon yet, because not all players must ever experience them in order to complete Fallout 3, and because none of that stuff hasn't needed to be happened (due to the said lack of references in the future).

I change my past statement. I am going with this ^