Mountian Lion Defense Plan

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:46 pm

So I play on super hard and Moutian Lions are seriously near one hit killers. I am so scared of random death that now no mater where I am I jump on a rock as soon as I hear the music. Does anything other than a mountian lion instill this type of fear in anyone?
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sara OMAR
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:14 am

If you are playing on very hard, and a mountain lion does this to you, then you have FAR more to fear then just the lion. Considering the lion is at the bottom of the creatures food-chain and all...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:52 pm

Perhaps you might consider turning the difficulty down? It is meaningless in this game, you know. No one will think any less of you if you do. :)

However, I do hear you on them mountain lions. They can be beastly strong with their claws and fangs... and they're fast enough that they can follow you up to most high places (then again, I use mods, so they may have been buffed). :ahhh:

Just give them some comeuppance with an enchanted weapon, that'll put them down nice and quick. ;)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:53 pm

At level 100 athleticsand very high speed, I couldn't outrun them. They took off about 1/3 of my health with each attack and when they stagger you, by the time you can block or attack again, you will almost definitely have been hit again. They are pure evil.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:45 am

At level 100 athleticsand very high speed, I couldn't outrun them. They took off about 1/3 of my health with each attack and when they stagger you, by the time you can block or attack again, you will almost definitely have been hit again. They are pure evil.

The vanilla mountain lion can keep up with you even if you have athletics at 100 and speed at 200 so don't try to run. Other than enchanting your weapon it's not much that can be done.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:58 am

Best defence is to summon something, preferable an aggressive melee fighter with lot of health, summons do the same damage at any difficulty but you do ranged attack while its busy. A poison attack followed by a command creature is also nice; it takes poison damage while fighting on your side. Poison on it and invisibility on you works just as well.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:23 am

Invisibility on self + a summon. Avoid being seen by any mountain lions, try to use ranged attacks to bring them down before they have a chance to attack (difficult with high difficulty, since you only deal a bit of damage). Build your character into a supertank with tons of health. Reflect damage. Water walking + go out on the water to get the mountain lion off your tail.

Mountain lions are horrible. :banghead:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:34 am

Other than a mountain lion, I have to say it's Willow the Wisp that scares me - if I see one in the distance I run in the opposite direction as fast as possible! Not bothered about getting their glow dust. And if I am too late and it's right in my face already then my heart starts racing and I begin to panic!!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:17 am

Buffy would rather avoid the beautiful forest predators and tries to give them a wide berth or calm them if they get too close. Sneaking away is not an option while traveling because her horse, Superian, doesn't know how to sneak. Therefore sometimes a lion attack is inevitable. When this happens, Buffy jumps to the ground and commands the creature. She then sinks one poisoned arrow into the beast and regrettably demoralizes the lion to run away and die. As much as she loathes killing fellow predators of the forest, she will not endanger her precious mare.

If she is low on arrows and attacked by a lion, she might block with her bow and cast a combination touch spell (paralyze + absorb health). Since she won't touch a melee weapon, this is the same tactic she uses when forced to fight underwater (where her wonderful bow works poorly).

I suppose another option she might consider is to summon a helper, then ride away while the lion is engaged with her summon.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:58 pm

The summoned helper is the answer here. The summons is not affected by the difficulty setting, so it does "normal damage" on the cat. It's basically a matter of negating your difficulty setting by using a tactic other than direct combat. Or you could just turn down the slider. :)

This demonstrates the whole flaw in the "difficulty slider" as implemented in Elder Scrolls games. All it does is adjust the ratio of damage of player vs enemy. In my opinion, it's silly for a Nord Warrior with a sword to require several hits to bring down a rat, while being nibbled to death through Heavy Armor. I don't see the fun in long, drawn-out, and completely unrealistic battles. In the real world, sword fights are over in a matter of seconds.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:51 pm

Honestly it's on super hard just for the heck of it to see how long I could actually do it before pulling out my hair. It's not very fun and ridiculous. I just wanted to role play that the world was on HGH or something i dunno, I really have no idea why I am even doing this....anyway they are just so fast. And since I am playing the super Tank character because on this difficult lots of stuff is one shot kill and the Heavy armor is just so so slow. By far scariest thing ever. The little glow balls are relentless and hardcoe too. Why are will-wisp so hardcoe haha?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:49 am

So I play on super hard and Moutian Lions are seriously near one hit killers. I am so scared of random death that now no mater where I am I jump on a rock as soon as I hear the music. Does anything other than a mountian lion instill this type of fear in anyone?


It depends on your character. If your a mage like my self. Summon +Invisibility. Or Paralyze + Destruction Magic. If you don't really use magic, such as a pure thief or warrior, there are other methods. As a thief, perhaps one that uses a bow, try getting a bow with a paralyze enchantment. This way you can at least paralyze them and run away, if not kill them while they are paralyzed. Just keep in mind that there are methods available to you that help you avoid taking damage, take advantage of them. HECK even if you are a thief, have a paralyze staff ready. Same goes for warrior with the staff. Also as a warrior maybe enchant some of your armor with things that help you take more damage or negate the amount of damage you take. Examples of this are enchanting your armor with shield or reflect spell enchantments. Or even fortify endurance to raise you HP. Enchant your weapon with something that reduces the damage the lion deals, such as a damage or even drain strength enchantment. Drain strength is especially good for warriors, as it not only reduces the damage the enemy will deal, but will increase your damage output simultaneously.

Hope this helps a little bit, if you have questions about enchanting feel free to ask.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:07 am

Paralysis

Proceed to kill

Paralysis again if the bastard survives your first attempt to kill it

proceed to kill more

paralysis again if the bastard survives your second attempt to kill it

....

....

....

and so on
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:44 pm

Paralysis

Proceed to kill

Paralysis again if the bastard survives your first attempt to kill it

proceed to kill more

paralysis again if the bastard survives your second attempt to kill it

....

....

....

and so on


Except the OP said he was playing a "Super Tank", so it's doubtful they'd have the skill level and/or magicka reserves to cast paralysis.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:14 am

Oh, how I love this.

I play OOO and permadeath, with some mild extra difficulty mods/rules (like Combat Fumbling). About 30% of my deaths are by mountain lions. Finding out where they are and how to deal with them is huge.

1. Mountain lions cannot cross water. Stay near water and be prepared to jump in and you are fine.
2. Mountain lions hit hard and fast but their HP isn't that huge. Paralysis + meteoric weapon (or spam destruction touch-spell with mana potions/alyeid stones) works fine. Paralysis potions can be bought from Shady Sam on the outer northwest imperial city wall. Other combinations like adrenaline rush and a hardhitting weapon work. AGILITY is important if you are a tank. Don't let them stagger you or you are dead. Consider other damage boosters like scrolls of summoning or instant cast damage.
3. Mountain lions do not spawn in the forests around Chorrel or Cheydinhal. They only occasionally spawn in the Imperial City grasslands area.
4. Sneak or Life Detection or both help keep you from being taken by surprise.

Mountain lions are so terrifying on permadeath my chest hurts for a while after being jumped by one. I often have dreams about them. The worst part is that they look a lot like deer, which are EVERYWHERE.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:39 pm

Most certainly not, especially not now after SubRosa′s great mod! :foodndrink:
But it′s a no without it too. Minor nuisance and it′s unnecessary to kill them but Lothran do not fear them. I believe he never has either
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:01 am

Am so glad it's not just me that struggles with mountain lions! My level 18 thiefy-assassiny bow-wielding bosmer never really got the hang of magic or enchanting stuff.

If he don't get the old sneak damage on a mountain lion, it's kite, pray, and take the svcker down before it knocks him on him ass and nom-noms his liver....
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:27 pm

Am so glad it's not just me that struggles with mountain lions! My level 18 thiefy-assassiny bow-wielding bosmer never really got the hang of magic or enchanting stuff.

If he don't get the old sneak damage on a mountain lion, it's kite, pray, and take the svcker down before it knocks him on him ass and nom-noms his liver....


How pitiful that the single unique racial of Bosmer is useless for exactly the situation it was designed for..

I fix that in http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32179! :thumbsup:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:26 am

How pitiful that the single unique racial of Bosmer is useless for exactly the situation it was designed for..

I fix that in http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=32179! :thumbsup:


Lol, would love that, unfortunately I has xbox so no mods for me :(

I do find it amusing/utterly-ridiculous that my character took down the big bad bosses of both the main quest and the Knights of the Nine without taking single hit, yet struggles with a mountain lion.

[Wife watched me get my ass kicked by one once. She said, "haven't you been playing this game for weeks? I thought you'd be good at it..." True story...]
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:24 am

Most certainly not, especially not now after SubRosa′s great mod! :foodndrink:
But it′s a no without it too. Minor nuisance and it′s unnecessary to kill them but Lothran do not fear them. I believe he never has either


I was going to say, what is the problem with mountain lions? I see them and say "hello kitty!" then go over to pet them and give them some milk. Of course it helps being a http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33463, or a http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36623.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:25 pm

I do find it amusing/utterly-ridiculous that my character took down the big bad bosses of both the main quest and the Knights of the Nine without taking single hit, yet struggles with a mountain lion.


If you've done KOTN, your boots ought to help with those big old kitty cats.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:20 am

I wish I could mod but I'm stuch with vanilla Oblivion due to the fact my labtop is like 6 years old and I don't have a desk top haha. Regaurdless Still hilarious to see a Warrior who "single handledly got choosen by the gods to shut the jaws of oblivion" If thats your angle

Any way. "Super Tank" Speed is at like 30 Athletics is around 30 same with acrobatics agility at like 25. around level 20 I think. Most time I try to jump to saftey and just get murdered!!!

Yarg....
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:04 am

If you've done KOTN, your boots ought to help with those big old kitty cats.


I completed KOTN last night so haven't had much chance to go into the wilderness, but suffice to say, I won't be doing any wilderness roaming in future without those trusty boots now.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:47 am

I was going to say, what is the problem with mountain lions? I see them and say "hello kitty!" then go over to pet them and give them some milk. Of course it helps being a http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=33463, or a http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=36623.

Agreed. It′s the same with will-o′s. People have so much trouble with them and I just can′t understand it. Maybe they′re a bit hard on lower levels but I never had any problems with them.

Lothran never leaves a city nowadays without being a Forest Friend. Thanks again :foodndrink:
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 5:07 pm

Mountain lions in TES IV are still a thousand times easier to deal with than, say, the cougars in Red Dead Redemption. Or the grizzly bears.

Who, in that game, tend to attack in squadron-formations of 30 or more.
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