Mouse stopped responding : IV

» Fri May 20, 2011 6:25 am

I don't know what happened, but I loaded up my game, and the mouse no longer responds. Please tell me someone may have an idea as to what could cause that. It works fine in the main menu, but not the rest of the time.

Here's my mods. The only thing new is FormID Finder, but I disabled that and it didn't fix the problem:

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Masters for: Streamsave_3.ess00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.0]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Kvatch Rebuilt.esm09  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0A  DA Run Fatigue.esm0B  CustomSpellIcons.esm0C  HorseCombatMaster.esm**  Cobl Races TNR.esp  [Version 1.53]**  Cobl Races TNR SI.esp  [Version 1.53]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.1]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp**  PyFFI-Optimized Vanilla Meshes Patch.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Oblivion Vwalk UOS.esp11  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk UOS.esp12  DLCShiveringIsles Vwalk DG_DS UOS.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp17  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]19  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1A  Fran Armor Add-on.esp1B  Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp1C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp1D  Ls More Butterflies and Fireflies Not In Interiors 5.0 Quarter.esp1E  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.0]1F  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.0]20  Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp21  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.7]22  Immersive Interiors - Lights Addon.esp  [Version 0.7]23  phinix-waterfix.esp24  Symphony of Violence.esp25  MIS Low Wind.esp26  MIS New Sounds Optional Part.esp27  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp28  Louder Nirnroot Sound.esp29  Rainbows.esp2A  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.0]2B  WindowLightingSystem.esp2C  Cobl Bookjackets.esp2D  Days&Months.esp2E  Display Stats.esp  [Version 1.2.2]2F  diversegrasses.esp30  HUDI.esp31  ImprovedSigns.esp32  RAEVWD Cities.esp  [Version 1.7]33  RoadSigns.esp34  VA_BetterGold.esp35  wd purse of wonders.esp36  Map Marker Overhaul.esp  [Version 3.7]37  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp38  ClassyClothingCompendium.esp39  Pek_Painting_Exchanger.esp3A  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp3B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]3C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]3D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp3E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]40  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]41  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]42  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]43  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp44  RealitySpectreStars2HeavenBetterPotionsOOOEffects.esp45  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]46  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]47  OBSE-Storms & Sound SI.esp48  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]49  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]4A  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]4B  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4C  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4D  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]4E  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]4F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]50  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]51  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]52  Fransfemale.esp53  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]54  EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer4FCOM.esp55  BenirusManorRebuilt.esp56  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]57  24HrArenaAliveV2.esp58  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp59  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]5A  Knights.esp5B  Knights - Book Jackets.esp5C  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]5D  Knights Vwalk UOP.esp5E  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5F  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]60  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]61  FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp  [Version 0.9.9]62  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]63  ANB_Item_Switchers.esp64  BlackScreenSneakFix.esp65  FewerOBGatesNOCLOSE.esp66  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]67  P1DkeyChain.esp  [Version 5.00]68  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.2.0]69  DA Sprint.esp6A  WPHealthRegen.esp  [Version 1.0]6B  RealisticHealth.esp6C  EnchantmentRestore.esp6D  attack and hide easier v2.1.esp6E  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]6F  DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp70  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp71  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp72  Smarter Mercantile Leveling - Multi.esp  [Version 1.65]73  RealisticLeveling.esp74  Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]75  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp76  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp77  Slof's Oblivion Better Beasts.esp78  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]79  bgBalancingEVOptionalBetterRedguards.esp7A  bgBalancingEVOptionalFCOMAdditions.esp  [Version 10.]7B  ArgonianFeets.esp7C  MRP - Loading area.esp7D  BetterExplosions.esp7E  Get Wet.esp7F  Better Lava by elveon.esp80  MotionBlur.esp81  Faction Rank Fix.esp82  MiniMap.esp83  Better Eyja.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.0]84  Kvatch Rebuilt.esp85  KvatchRankFix.esp86  Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp87  Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp88  Kvatch Rebuilt Vwalk.esp89  Bashed Patch, 0.esp8A  FormID Finder4.esp8B  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Fri May 20, 2011 8:23 am

I fixed it. Had to regenerate the Oblivion.ini.

» Fri May 20, 2011 2:33 pm

The problem is with FormID Finder. Whenever I click on an item or whatever, it freezes the mouse. I have to regenerate the Oblivion.ini to fix it. So author of FormID Finder, you may want to look into this.

» Fri May 20, 2011 3:47 pm

I've used FormIDFinder previously without any issues... so I guess this is due to a set of curious circumstances, not necessarily only FormIDFInder.

» Fri May 20, 2011 9:25 am

Yeah, I guess you're right.

» Fri May 20, 2011 8:26 am

Are you using OBSE 19? I've had this problem 2-3 times in the last couple weeks too. I have a sneaking suspicion it's OBSE-related (not to bash on those guys, because they do great work, but something this odd is most likely attributable to OBSE). I was just about to post about it on their thread, as a matter of fact.

» Fri May 20, 2011 2:44 pm

I use RefScope and OBSE 19. You might want to try that.

» Fri May 20, 2011 9:02 pm

Are you using OBSE 19? I've had this problem 2-3 times in the last couple weeks too. I have a sneaking suspicion it's OBSE-related (not to bash on those guys, because they do great work, but something this odd is most likely attributable to OBSE). I was just about to post about it on their thread, as a matter of fact.

Yeah, I use OBSE 0019 Beta 4. So you think it's OBSE, huh?

» Fri May 20, 2011 2:11 pm

Yeah, I use OBSE 0019 Beta 4. So you think it's OBSE, huh?

I can't imagine what else could mess with the mouse pointer like that. I have a full FCOM install like you, but not a whole lot of the same mods as you besides that (and not FormID Finder). I think we can safely rule out FCOM.

» Fri May 20, 2011 12:07 pm

I have no idea about the source of the problem, but you may get out of the situation with some console commands:

First try: enablemouse

If that doesn′t help, you mouse speed is 0. Then, type:

setinisetting "fMouseSensitivity:controls" 0.003

You may want to use a different value; set your mouse speed in game and check out the value in your ini. Or type:

getinisetting "fMouseSensitivity:controls" to see ingame what it is after setting it.

» Fri May 20, 2011 9:53 pm

I have no idea about the source of the problem, but you may get out of the situation with some console commands:

First try: enablemouse

If that doesn′t help, you mouse speed is 0. Then, type:

setinisetting "fMouseSensitivity:controls" 0.003

You may want to use a different value; set your mouse speed in game and check out the value in your ini. Or type:

getinisetting "fMouseSensitivity:controls" to see ingame what it is after setting it.

Thanks, Skycaptain. I just regenerated my Oblivion.ini and uninstalled FormID Finder. I perused the ini after the mouse froze and noticed that there were no mouse settings in the ini. So whatever happened, it must have deleted the entire mouse settings.

» Fri May 20, 2011 7:15 pm

I just felt the need to bump this thread, since I'm still having the problems with my mouse - it seems to crap out on me about once an hour now, and has been for the last few days. It's a wireless mouse, but I just put new batteries into it - it works fine the rest of the time.

» Fri May 20, 2011 8:32 pm

Try a wired mouse and see if the problem persists. It sounds like a hardware issue. Maybe it does work fine when you're not gaming, but that could still be a power or heat issue affecting the port on your PC. Or it could be a short in the mouse itself, in which case new batteries would not help, and it is coincidental that you are only noticing while gaming. Or a really amusing virus (probably not amusing to you, though). I mean, there could be any of a dozen issues here that have nothing to do with mods, and are more to do with your machine needing more resources while you're gaming.

You could also try playing the game modless for an hour or two and seeing if the problem persists that way, to rule out mods or hardware as the cause.

Or if you're really convinced it has to be a mod, try to remember the details of what you were doing in-game when your mouse died, and find a common denominator.

» Fri May 20, 2011 12:52 pm

After some thought, I realized that I had a mod that affected the mouse - QZ Easy Menus (you can right-click to accept or exit a menu). Since it seemed like a good place to start, I disabled it and played for about three hours with no problems. I reenabled it last night and played for a bit, and the problem hasn't come back, so it looks like I fixed it. Odd, though...