just edited there very well may be perks that allow just what you want but not called speed agilty or what ever we will have to see i guess.

I think we'll get the ability to naturally jump high through perks, since the dev all but confirmed it. The overall speed on the other hand...Im not sure.

Frankly, I'd love to see enemy mages get levitation. What's the fun in flying if you can't have an aerial duel?

I really want them implemented.

At least as light armour perks. It isn't quite good, but still better than removing them.

I dont think its impossible you could end up with perks like lightining run or spring heel jack there is alot of perks.

Don't really see what the big deal is. But, then, I never tried to power-level Acro & Athletics. I did generally push my Speed up, for the combat & skill effects. Only time I noticed anything was when escorting NPCs.... at which point, having a high movement speed svcked. So, yeah. No crying about "standardized" speeds here. :shrug:


edit: and wuxia-style floating leaps up into the trees or onto roofs...... meh, doesn't really seem to fit the game style to me.

Agreed. To me, enemy mages have always been one of the biggest jokes in the series. They are such a minor threat. Just dodge their first couple spell shots and then slice them down in a couple hits. Using things like levitation and paralysis should be common tactics used by NPCs.

I do think you shouldnt be able to carry a 90lbs war hammer wear plate and outrun a horse.But if a charicter has a good build and wears the right stuff and invests in perks he shoulds be able to be fast .

So how would a melee character handle that ?

No, I didn't. Don't tell me I did :nope: Maybe you did :shrug: Really, there wasn't too much worth while to explore. OOhhh another cave...OOOhhh anther ruin....OOhh another Doom Stone thingy.

Jumping wasn't neccessary because of how they created the game - I don't think I found one sword up high on a nook that a dev would have placed there which would have required jumping to see.. Kind of a chicken and egg argument.

Unless I'm misreading you, are you saying that sprinters don't train? To achieve that inate limit one must train up to it. LIfting weights, more sprints..and them fun looking drogue races!

Not sure if we played different versions, but the only time I got injured in a jump was when there was a height difference upon landing. Same height was always zero effect.

Regarding the OP, just another reason to wait and see what the game is really like after release.

Fallout 3 like speed is not a problem and will make Skyrim a much larger land then say Oblivion was when you had 100 Speed.

I gave up on Fallout 3 because getting anywhere took to long without Fast Travel, and I hate Fast Travel.

Sprint perks+high fatigue+light/no amor.

Tadaa, fast character.

F3 speed would go against lore.

I didn't think it took too long to get from one destination to the other but I do get your point.

Preparation.

...And hiding. Or is that not manly enough?

Then you must hate Morrowind...

I can eventually go faster in Morrowind. I will always have the same slow running speed in Fallout 3.

Running fast isn't really unreal. Sure not everyone can catch up to a deer but when I was in high school I knew a guy on our track team that caught a deer with his bear hands and wrestled it to the ground. I'm not exadurating either. He was the fastest kid on the team. He was a sophmore when I was a senior so he could still get faster...my point being that everyone has different speeds that they can run at. Even if they weigh differently. Making everyone run the same speed based on their weight is wrong and unreal

Speed and Acrobatics were very broken in the previous games. You were forced to level those skills no matter what. Having sprint and apparel that will alter speed will fix that now.

Honestly, I cheated in Fallout 3/NV and just gave myself the speed related perks from the outset. Majority of my characters in Morrowind would be born under the speed sign, too. I'm not opposed to increasing the starting speed of everybody, but I think removing any sort of progression is a cop-out.

The "horse" moves like a robot. Don't get me wrong, they LOOK really good, I just wish that their movements were more,... fluid. I do wish they would implement horse movement controls similar to the ones in Shadow of the Colossus or maybe Assassin's Creed; it would help you feel as though you are actually riding a horse. And some mounted combat would make a good reason to ride a horse, too. Perhaps mounted combat should be a perk for spear-wielders... if there's ever a mod for that.

He shouldn't melee characters based only on the sword should run into a brick wall if faced in this sotuation and run for help or die. That's realistic and I know its a fantasy game but I want it as realistic as possible

I dont approve of forcing characters into a certain playstyle. If there were levitating mages, then they should come down after about 30 seconds.

Oh realism, ok, you get stabbed, you bleed out. you die. Game over, becuase you only get one shot. Oh and someone can slit your throat while you sleep, add in disease can kill you without knowing you have it, and you have a good ralistic game. No our argument is weak.

Well levetation should wear off and it should take his mana down a lot. I hate that about these games because it seems the enemy has infinate mana or arrows. Another thing that always svcked was that I couldn't burden anything really

All of those things would add complexity and fine. Why should our character only have to be under attack while awake? If someone wanted us dead send out an assasin. A good one too, not one that runs right up to your face, and confronts you before attacking