Movie "The Road"

Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:32 am

As most fallout fans are likely to post apocalyptic movie fans, let me suggest watching “The Road”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbLgszfXTAY
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Great post apocalyptic film. Probably one of the better, newer movies in the genre. Survival, scaving, raider types. Has a lot to offer a fallout fan.

Anyone seen it? Anything from the movie remind you of the fallout universe?
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:52 pm

I thought it was a pretty good movie. I think I'm going to have to read the book. But yeah, I liked it.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:29 am

I watched it. I loved it. Viggo Mortensen just gets so into his roles, he has become one of my favorite actors since the LOTR.

In the scene where Viggo (The Man) has to wash the blood out of Kodi's (The Boy) hair in a stream, they are filming in the mountains in Pennsylvania in the middle of winter (so that there are no leaves on the trees). The water in the stream is really cold, so the director told Kodi they would only shoot two takes, but both takes Viggo and Kodi mess up their lines. The director makes them shoot one more time. Kodi starts getting hypothermia, and looses it for real. Viggo improvises his lines, and the crew keeps shooting. They use that take in the movie. Knowing that Kodi isn't acting, and is really crying makes that scene so dramatic.

There were a lot of things that reminded me of Fallout3 in the movie. Most of it was the typical post apocalyptic paraphernalia, like the abandoned cars on the roads, the ruined buildings, the daily scavenger hunt to survive...

But, the most Fallout3-ish thing to me was the cannibals. Just as many of them carried metal pipes and baseball bats as carried guns, just like FO3's raiders.
And the Coke (Nukacola) falling out of the soda machine. That scene was very FO3ish...
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:33 am

I watched it. I loved it. Viggo Mortensen just gets so into his roles, he has become one of my favorite actors since the LOTR.

In the scene where Viggo (The Man) has to wash the blood out of Kodi's (The Boy) hair in a stream, they are filming in the mountains in Pennsylvania in the middle of winter (so that there are no leaves on the trees). The water in the stream is really cold, so the director told Kodi they would only shoot two takes, but both takes Viggo and Kodi mess up their lines. The director makes them shoot one more time. Kodi starts getting hypothermia, and looses it for real. Viggo improvises his lines, and the crew keeps shooting. They use that take in the movie. Knowing that Kodi isn't acting, and is really crying makes that scene so dramatic.

There were a lot of things that reminded me of Fallout3 in the movie. Most of it was the typical post apocalyptic paraphernalia, like the abandoned cars on the roads, the ruined buildings, the daily scavenger hunt to survive...

But, the most Fallout3-ish thing to me was the cannibals. Just as many of them carried metal pipes and baseball bats as carried guns, just like FO3's raiders.
And the Coke (Nukacola) falling out of the soda machine. That scene was very FO3ish...


Dang, I didn't get a chance to watch the special features.

I really liked scene inside the canniabl's house. Viggo has a chance to save the prisoners but chooses to flee and survive with his son instead. Very fallout-y choice.

The soda machine, why did I miss that!
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:31 pm

Eh, The Road didn't live up to expectations for me. I like the moving away from strictly action and making post-apocalyptic it's own little genre, but The Road didn't really have a plot in my opinion. Yes, it's a movie about a father and son struggling through a post-apocalyptic world, but there was no real conflict and resolution, and no real character development. All we really get are flashbacks of the father with his wife, and some very emotional scenes
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like the father's death


But all in all the kid doesn't experience much change, and nothing is solved at the end of the movie. It just seemed like a movie designed to try to depress you and possibly make you think. It did both very well, but a movie and a story (I don't know how the book is; I have yet to read it) need to have some sort of conflict and resolution.

The Road did well enough to show that the post-apocalypse can be more than just a battleground, but it failed at bringing a substantial story.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:20 am

The Book of Eli fits the style of the Fallout setting pretty well.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:40 pm

The road would be a great way to show people surviving in the first few years after a nuclear war. Things I would take from the movie.
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The part where they find a bomb shelter full of food, they go to the house and the owner of the shelter is dead in his bed (just could not handle the end of the world.)


The way the movie shows cannibalism. People farming people for food, big cauldrons used for boiling people.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:17 am

You should definitely read the book, preferably before the movie. It is depressing, but its a great book with a very touching story.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:46 am

It's an incredible movie and possibly my second favorite book of all time (behind The Godfather). I've heard the book was on the reading list for the Fallout 3 developers (it came out in 2006)
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:54 am

Eh, The Road didn't live up to expectations for me. I like the moving away from strictly action and making post-apocalyptic it's own little genre, but The Road didn't really have a plot in my opinion. Yes, it's a movie about a father and son struggling through a post-apocalyptic world, but there was no real conflict and resolution, and no real character development. All we really get are flashbacks of the father with his wife, and some very emotional scenes
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like the father's death


But all in all the kid doesn't experience much change, and nothing is solved at the end of the movie. It just seemed like a movie designed to try to depress you and possibly make you think. It did both very well, but a movie and a story (I don't know how the book is; I have yet to read it) need to have some sort of conflict and resolution.

The Road did well enough to show that the post-apocalypse can be more than just a battleground, but it failed at bringing a substantial story.


I agree with the lack of plot, but I thought the lack of plot and enhanced the feeling of aimlessness for me.

I really hate that kid though. The kid is born into a post apocalyptic world but seems completely unable to adapt or retain any knowledge about the environment. Given he’s young but if that is the only world he knew, why is so hard for him to comprehend that world.
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It is so annoying that kid can’t even be a look out for danger while dad scavenges


As for conflict resolution,

I thought that the father’s conflict was keeping teaching him how to survive. And I agree there wasn’t any resolution. By the end

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That kid seems a little more competent but then he just starts tagging along with that new family. Would of made a lot more sense if the kid learned to be self sufficient and help he and his father with survival.


Also

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There is that part where the kid finds the beetle which implies the world might be on the recovery. The scene is cut short as the father is shot with the arrow it is easy to miss.



As far the movie failing to bring a substantial story, not sure if I agree there. Though the movie did not follow a traditional story arc I believe the story itself was good. So many movies go with a very standard ( and it works very well) way of story telling that I liked the fact the movie didn’t use story arc and character development in the traditional way.

Maybe lack of character development for father and son was paralleled with a lifeless world where nothing can grow. Not even the characters. That prob just stretching it though.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:57 am

I always forget where I am in the book and have to keep starting again from the beginning.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:10 am

The Book of Eli was more Fallout's visual style than The Road, sum of the shots in the Book were straight out of FO3, the Road wasn't bad but I didn't think it was that great either. Bit more desolate tho not as feel good as Eli, the road would probably be a more realistic portrayal to Post Ap. Life.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:40 am

Yeah,
The Road is more realistic
Book of Eli is more Fallout-ish

I liked them both, though I really wouldn't care to see Book again. Kind of a silly ending if you ask me.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:27 am

Yeah,
The Road is more realistic
Book of Eli is more Fallout-ish

I liked them both, though I really wouldn't care to see Book again. Kind of a silly ending if you ask me.


Well it had to have some sorta twist really. I prefer the Book, I read a lot and understand the importance of recorded knowledge to be keep safe for the next civilisation, silly I know but I read a lot of Ancient History, so the Book was up my street.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:23 pm

Unlucky for me I saw the movie first, it usually spoils my appetite to read the actual book.

I liked both movies. I thought the Road was more dramatic realistic and the Book of Eli was more action related. Whatever... both movies were pretty good.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 8:27 am

It looks like a really good movie. I hope that Mr. Aragorn can live up to his name. :P
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:21 pm

I wouldn't necessarily call the Road more realistic than the Book of Eli... neither of them hit the exact mark but the book is closer. After all, everything doesn't simply die after a nuclear disaster. The Road was just ridiculously depressing. = /
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:15 am

I wouldn't necessarily call the Road more realistic than the Book of Eli... neither of them hit the exact mark but the book is closer. After all, everything doesn't simply die after a nuclear disaster. The Road was just ridiculously depressing. = /


The exact nature of the catastrophe which devastates the world in The Road was deliberately left obscure by its writer. The only clue he gives is "A shear of light followed by a series of low concussions". My own impression was of an environmental catastrophe.

I think The Road is an excellent film. The book is easily one of the best I have ever read, and would recommend people read it before watching the film. It is depressing, but then I wouldn't expect the end of the world as we know it to be anything else.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 3:37 am

The exact nature of the catastrophe which devastates the world in The Road was deliberately left obscure by its writer. The only clue he gives is "A shear of light followed by a series of low concussions". My own impression was of an environmental catastrophe.

I think The Road is an excellent film. The book is easily one of the best I have ever read, and would recommend people read it before watching the film. It is depressing, but then I wouldn't expect the end of the world as we know it to be anything else.

"A shear of light followed by a series of low concussions".
I sort of felt that hinted toward a meteor impact...
Along with the nuclear winter, and continuous aftershocks.

I think the ending of The Road was fitting.
There would be no resolution of conflict.
No "find a thriving utopia" or "living happily ever after".
What you see at the end of The Road is what the kid is left with.
That is how it's going to be from then on, "as the world slowly dies..."

And as for The Book of Eli....
Sorry, but the super-natural powers of the main character just ruined the movie for me...
The Book of Eli came off, in my opinion, as some poorly written fundie propaganda.
They didn't even have the courtesy of making the story make any sense.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:05 am

And as for The Book of Eli....
Sorry, but the super-natural powers of the main character just ruined the movie for me...
The Book of Eli came off, in my opinion, as some poorly written fundie propaganda.
They didn't even have the courtesy of making the story make any sense.


What are you talking about? The story did make sense.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 11:29 am

And as for The Book of Eli....
Sorry, but the super-natural powers of the main character just ruined the movie for me...


Supernatural powers? Don't tell me that Denzel's a some sort of half-ass magician there, that they ruined a perfectly good idea with something like that? (haven't seen it yet, but if that's the case, it kinda makes me not want to see it in the first place)
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:12 am

Supernatural powers? Don't tell me that Denzel's a some sort of half-ass magician there, that they ruined a perfectly good idea with something like that? (haven't seen it yet, but if that's the case, it kinda makes me not want to see it in the first place)


There are no supernatural powers. He's just complaining that the movie has a religious backdrop.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 4:26 am

What are you talking about? The story did make sense.

For anyone that hasn't seen the movie, don't read...
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Tell me, then...
Without "super-natural" powers, how does Eli (who is blind):
1. Find buildings in the wastes?
2. Find the doors on those buildings?
3. Win multiple fights where he is out numbered about 10:1?
and it goes on...
I only watched the movie once, then gave the DVD away to one of my friends. I don't intend to watch it again.


Supernatural powers? Don't tell me that Denzel's a some sort of half-ass magician there, that they ruined a perfectly good idea with something like that? (haven't seen it yet, but if that's the case, it kinda makes me not want to see it in the first place)

Washington (and the whole cast) was excellent.
The acting is great, but I didn't like the plot, which is one gigantic plot hole.
It's the writing and the directing that I didn't like.

There are no supernatural powers. He's just complaining that the movie has a religious backdrop.

No, I've already received a warning from the mods for talking about religion here. That isn't allowed.
I'm just saying that the acts performed by the main character aren't possible without some sort of super powers...

(btw: I like your avatar. I'm a Tool fan myself...)

Ok, we've gone way off topic here.
Any further discussion of anything not related to The Road should be done via PMs.
Sorry Ratt80.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:21 am

For anyone that hasn't seen the movie, don't read...
Spoiler
Tell me, then...
Without "super-natural" powers, how does Eli (who is blind):
1. Find buildings in the wastes?
2. Find the doors on those buildings?
3. Win multiple fights where he is out numbered about 10:1?
and it goes on...
I only watched the movie once, then gave the DVD away to one of my friends. I don't intend to watch it again.



Washington (and the whole cast) was excellent.
The acting is great, but I didn't like the plot, which is one gigantic plot hole.
It's the writing and the directing that I didn't like.


No, I've already received a warning from the mods for talking about religion here. That isn't allowed.
I'm just saying that the acts performed by the main character aren't possible without some sort of super powers...

(btw: I like your avatar. I'm a Tool fan myself...)

Ok, we've gone way off topic here.
Any further discussion of anything not related to The Road should be done via PMs.
Sorry Ratt80.



I get what you're saying about 'Eli', the whole premise was too much. But the backdrop seemed to make up for it.

As for 'The Road', I'm still dying to know what caused it all. Excellent movie. A real must see.
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Post » Sun Dec 04, 2011 9:01 am

I really enjoyed the road, I can't wait to rent it or watch it again sometime :D
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