There is an awfull lot of topics such as possible plots or ingame content being made
and the one fear i have is that skyrim is still a little less than a year away and we are already talking our selfs to death
does anyone else see the danger i am starting to see ...what if we get our expectations to high...personaly thats what happend with me in new vegas(or obsidian could have messed some stuff up i know you will never let us down bethesda)

With all the weaknesses that New Vegas fixed I really don't see how anyone can be unhappy with it.

In regard to Skyrim though,

That's pretty much inevitable. We have minimal guidelines at the moment to determine what may and what will be in Skyrim so our imaginations run free. After the Game Informer article comes out we'll have more to base our theories on. Hyping is just a natural part of the pre game buildup.

This only happens when the game is not very good. Like Spore.

Even when New Vegas had bugs it was an amazing game. So damn good. Bethesda games are not known for such bugs.

We should have no reason to be cooled down for TES. Skyrim will live up to my expectations. Those expectations are: better than the past ES games.

Too true, too true........I always over-hype games. Honestly though I'm not too worried about that here. This games has been worked on for almost 4 years. So maybe in some areas I'm over-hyping it, but I think that in others it will pass my expectations. Hopefully.

Mighty high expectations

:)

Nothing said on these forums will affect sales in anyway. The fact is that these forums only represent a very small portion of the people that will actually buy the game. The same goes for all the online communities out there. Player driven hype can't really have much of a negative impact on the game.

It could be really bad ass, but it also could be Oblivion II with a little bit snow and trees here and there.My expectations are high and I think that Bethesda can once again comes up with something really unique.I can't hide that my fears are even higher than my expectations tho.

Agreed.

Back before Spore was released, I was highly anticipating it and my hype was over the top, though it blinded me, because since the first demos of the game, you could see that it would fail due to a number of technical issues and design choices. I was very disappointed when it came out, but 2 months before the release I realized, that it would end up pretty damn bad.

As for games like New Vegas. I enjoyed it a lot, I agree 100% to whoever says it's better than Fallout 3. Unfortunately it did not deliver the same feeling and surprise Fallout 3 gave me when it released. Though it was very enjoyable to experience a true successor to the classics, Fallout 1 and 2.

"Bethesda games are not known for such bugs"
Excuse me if I understood it wrong, but... Bethesda games are very buggy, not as buggy as Obsidian ones (NWN2, AP... heck pretty much every single one). Though people call Bethesda's games buggy, while they are correct, they never really annoyed me during my gameplay, nor have I ever experienced a game breaking glitch. Most bugs are things like a raider body getting all twisted and stuff, which just amused me and made me laugh.

My expectations for Skyrim is pretty much the same as yours, being a better game than any other TES game. I want Morrowind complexity, writing and great lore combined with the improvements Oblivion delivered like a fast paced combat, prettier graphics, new features, etc.

Amen.

I do think community can have an effect on sales though. Only in extreme cases though. A community that is very supportive and happy with the direction the series is going reflects well on the game and the developer. A community that is hostile reflects poorly....of course in those instances the community usually is censored out of existence.

I'm looking at you Blue Box, you and the great Fable purge.

You can't just stop hype, hype is just what happens when a previous thing was successful and hope for the sequel are high. Sure, sometimes it can ruin, other times it doesn't. Games with more hype get more sells, so as far as BGS is concerned, the more hype the better. Games can even live off of hype. Look at Modern Warfare 2, if that game hadn't had such a great predecessor I doubt it would have got half the sells it did.

I couldn't stand it. Liked FO3, mostly, though it annoyed me no end in some ways. Ah, mods. But New Vegas felt... unredeemable, basically. I completely gave up on it, only days in. Mods notwithstanding.

Regarding Skyrim, I have high hopes, yet haven't talked much about it so far. Insufficient data to go on, really. As long as the game is no worse than Oblivion, and is at least as moddable, I'm buying. Being a Bethesda game, I'm almost certainly buying. I have enough faith in them, even if I'll probably be purchasing what amounts to a console game for the PC (ugh)... with added moddability.


Oh, and hype won't hurt. Anything but, in fact. Besides which, the fact of the matter is, Beth would have to *seriously* stumble, like, *really* badly, in order not to sell another TES game in massive numbers. They are a very competent, experienced team.

If you didn't trade/sell NV you should give it a second try.

I almost sold Morrowind after first playing it because for whatever reason it just didn't click.

I picked it up the next day and I've loved it ever since.

Look to Peter Moleneux to find such games. It wasn't the hype that killed the game, it was failure to deliver. When you say a game will be the most Epic Rpg Anyone has Ever Played, and then you get Fable, which was a good game, but nothing more, it tends to get disheartening.

Closest thing I can think of with ES games is soft shadows on everything getting pulled, and people over-estimating just what Radiant AI was capable of.

Hah, so true. I lost all of my faith in Molyneux after Fable.

I just wish he came back to Black & White games, Populous, The Movies... Those were trully masterpieces and incredibly ambitious who didn't fail to deliver. But Fable... from the time it was announced it was destined to fail.

Yeah I gotta agree for one reason Oblivion. I hyped that game up (for myself) so much with stuff like is there gunna be more weapons, more spells, can we play as a new race, is it gunna be bigger than morrowind, are we gunna find out what happened to the dwarves, etc. etc. Well we all know how that ended. Now before you Oblivion fanatics freak out on me Oblivion was a great game, but Morrowind was one of the greatest games of all time (no kayne west pun intended). I personally think I feel this way because I hyped it up to be a bigger better sequel to Morrowind rather then its on game. So while i'm hoping Skyrim will go back to a Morrowindish style roots of game play, I am trying to be careful with the "I hope it has this and that" stuff. Guess will find out in Game Informer's coverage of it.

some of the expectations on here are just nuts and some are really stupid, and bethesda shouldn't really waste their time on

It wasn't even that that spoiled Molyneux for me, it was his companies handling of the fanbase.

When they finally (a few weeks before released) announced that trees wouldn't age so you couldn't carve your name in them and that the game wasn't in fact free roaming but linear, after that when people started complaining that noone had told them before they started denying that they had ever said anything to the contrary.

What followed were a metric ton of posters complaining, quoting, and getting banned.

Never giving him a cent.

I'll buy an extra copy of Skyrim instead, for after I melt my first copy.

here are my expectations: at least another Oblivion
then I would be happy

I'll under hype it.

It'll look like oblivion, have massive glitches, be boring as hell after one character, the voice actors will be severly recycled, the entire map will be uninteresting procedurally generated forests, won't have much armor to choose from, crappy level scaling and will feel like an only slightly mythological place, but not enough to feel like you're out of england :celebration:

I couldn't agree more that all of our talk is causing certain people to think too highly of something they know nothing about. Personally I think it is fine for now though. If we get enough info dropped before the release we can have an accurate vision of what this game will be like. Until then all we can do is guess. Still I would rather there be more guessing and suggestions then threads talking about random stuff that really shouldn't take up more then a couple posts in the suggestion thread. This kind of thread okay too in my book so I am not speaking badly of it. Oddly enough I don't think some on has done a thread about this before (at least of what I have seen). :ermm:

I'm gonna have severe Nightmares tonight.
Thank you. :foodndrink: :hubbahubba:

Pip pip, Cherrio

Considering we dont know ANYTHING yet, I dont see a risk. Once we get info if we start talking up that info, making it seem better tha nit is, thats when the risk starts. But I dont see myself being dissapointed with Skyrim no matter how they make it.

Unless each and every TESV game has been custom made for each person then there are going to be a lot of people disappointed. There are threads about graphics and people will be disappointed about graphics. There are threads about the storyline and people will be disappointed with that. There are threads about what you will be able to do or how much content there is and people will be disappointed in that. There are going to be people who exaggerate bugs and say that the game is completely unplayable because one of the quests doesn't work the way they want it to.

TESV needs to have everything to please everyone.

I don't think that there will be a huge leap in quality for the game. I imagine it will be more like a Morrowind to Oblivion leap rather than a Arena to Oblivion leap. I hope it's a good game but I'm not holding out for something super amazing because I just don't think that TESV will be that much of an improvement over TESIV.

we will get tons of information next month so no problems with that