I think this needs to be stickied. How many requests or polls are we going to have "guns" in TES games. If anyone wants guns, go play Halo, Call of Duty
or go play Fable.

I say bring back crossbows, but NO GUNS!!!

Why would you want guns? Fire, ice, electricity balls not good enough for you? Why on earth would anyone want guns in TES? If anyone needs guns
then you are playing the wrong game. You want guns people need to play Fallout, Fable or something else.

Funny, I don't know why this gets our hearts boiling.

The Fable universe isn't destroyed. It adapted. I personally like the steampunk angle they took on Fable 3 and think it was well done. I wouldn't want the same done here though - each game has it's own specific feel and theme. That is Fable's, but wouldn't be appropriate for Skyrim.

I want crossbows, but no guns.

Useless thread is useless.

Fable universe was weak from the very beginning anyway.

@ The Luggage
True, but they're way more silent than a gun.

What I mean is that look at fable 1 and compare it to 2 and 3 they pretty much dumbed down all the monsters and made extinct most of the worthwhile enemies I mean no more trolls they may be steam punking it but they have also lost so much potential in the mysterious creature department they made that shadow guy as a way to introduce something new to makeup for what they killed off dont get me wrong I like all the fables but I wont play elderscrolls if they turn it into a bast*rdized fable rpg shooter monstrocity/abomination.
Im sorry but firearms and explosives are world killers science takes all the fun out of the mystical/magical and kills of any who dont fit in Ala trolls in fable.

Maybe we can steer this topic away from "LAWL NO GUNS LAWL" and try to actually have some discussion.

Why is it so hard to believe that, during a freaking civil war, there are people who want to defend themselves but aren't very strong or learned in the arcane arts? Surely someone would have been pressured into inventing not necessarily a firearm, but something just as similar and as easy to use?

Obviously it wouldn't be anything as advanced as http://www.bungie.net/images/News/InlineImages2007/Halo3BetaGuide/humanweapons.jpg, http://images.wikia.com/uncharted/images/3/30/MP40.gif, or even http://www.relics.org.uk/images/products/PIC_1036_t.jpg, so it's not as if they would be overpowered.

Many other hack n' slash era games have early gun designs in them and are no worse for it (and I'm not even talking about Fable 2/3, which outside fo this forum were considered pretty big successes), namely the two most recent Assassin's Creed games (yes, I know they're set in the real world, but the main argument seems to be that guns don't fit in with medieval style swords and armour which they clearly do in these games).

I'm not so sure that I'd even want guns in Skyrim, but people need to be more open-minded about this stuff.

I dont want it to be fable, where we have to evolve technology similar to how it happened on earth between games, it's a terrible idea. Tes should remian fantasy, and guns would completely ruin that feeling

I'm gonna say no, at least not yet. Hear me out.

I have no issue with firearms in fantasy settings, if the timeline advances far enough then technology must follow suit, otherwise it seems like the region is filled with morons (No offense to anyone who has not revolutionised weapons technology in some way), one of the things I liked in the Fable games was how the world was evolving and changing as time went by, it made it more believable. Those games are still flawed in many respects, but they did that part rather well.

On the other hand, TES has always been very tradtional fantasy, and I'd like to see it remain that way. If a TES game after Skyrim moved far ahead and abandoned the classig fantasy setting it has, I'm sure it'd still be a really cool game, but I'd also be dissapointed that the old days were gone. Fantasy games are hard to come by, at least good ones, and it's nice to have a game series you're familiar with, games you feel at home playing so to speak.

So in short, no. At least not yet.

Too add to the list of NO!

For OBVIOUS reasons everyone has already listed.

Now I know what provoked Alduin to eat the world and start over anew! Thanks for the spoiler bros

This.
Seriously.

I think now is a bad time to introduce firearms. Tamriel seems to be suffering from a "dark" age during Skyrim, after the collapse of the Septim Dynasty. I'd say technological advancement would be stalled, or even might have slid down a bit. There have been hints that magic is not as common at this time, another sign of a slide in civilization. It's a darker time. I think it would not be the appropriate time to introduce such technical innovations.

For some reason, lasers seem like they'd fit better in the Elder Scrolls world to me than regular guns do. But they'd need a different name, like Padomaic Destabilizer Rays or something. Or perhaps a giant super-weapon called "The A.L.T.A.D.O.O.N. Cannon".

I'd like to fantasizes that Disintegrate Armor/Weapon actually shoots out crimson rays from your fingertips, myself.

This, Or even better SHOOP DA WHOOP!

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Nein

Hell no. What do you think this is? Fable?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
Please no!
Fantasy worlds should not have firearms. Magic replaces the need for more advanced technology.
I used to love Fable-- then they added guns. Now, I hate Fable.
I don't want to see that happen to my Elder Scrolls.
Why use a gun if you can shoot flaming bolts of death from your fingertips?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zNjQecyjE8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS7UiSqnQwg&feature=related

Sorry, I couldn't find one with the original voice, but you get the picture.

If there are muskets in Skyrim, I...I just, I don't know what I'd do. :banghead:

Hell yes!

And instead of horses or any other travel system, they should include motorcycles with mounted firearms. It only makes sense if you think about the progression of the games.

:rolleyes:

No. I wish the Oblivion fans who just like the killing side, like CoD would stop coming to these forums. That is not what this game is about. It is about the lore. The culture. The exploration. I could go on for ever but it is almost certainly not about the violence.