at top speed

It seems to me that it all comes down to who is in the Suit - So if you swaped Alcatraz and Master Chief and put them in one anothers suits the Nanosuit would win, but as it is, I'd have to say MJOLNIR wins - And I hate Halo with a passion, so there is no bias there..

On slight tangent to the original post - If anyone here has actually read Richard Morgans 'Takashi Kovacs' Sci-fi series - Kovacs would beat down both Master Chief and the Nanosuit without wearing a state-of-the-art combat suit and still have time to snort a bunch of tetrameth and get laid before the he'd even broken into a sweat.

It seems to me that it all comes down to who is in the Suit - So if you swaped Alcatraz and Master Chief and put them in one anothers suits the Nanosuit would win, but as it is, I'd have to say MJOLNIR wins - And I hate Halo with a passion, so there is no bias there..
The nanosuit can cloak, and therefore win. Unless anyone can point out a countermeasure that MC could use against this, the matter is settled.

It seems to me that it all comes down to who is in the Suit - So if you swaped Alcatraz and Master Chief and put them in one anothers suits the Nanosuit would win, but as it is, I'd have to say MJOLNIR wins - And I hate Halo with a passion, so there is no bias there..
The nanosuit can cloak, and therefore win. Unless anyone can point out a countermeasure that MC could use against this, the matter is settled.

^^
Radar

not to mention the augmentations give Spartans heightened eyesight, and hearing, among other senses.
not to mention even if Alcatraz got the jump on the spartan the neural implants enable to suit to move as fast as the user can think so im sure the chief would be like oh **** and quickly dispatch Alcatraz. and the bones of a spartan would make their skeletal structure virtually unbreakable if he tried to snap his neck.

also, I know TC said a spartan super soldier, I'f we're talking about John in the Mk.VI we need to define if were talking about him in the video games or him in the books because John in the books is made to be invincible. Those who have read the books would agree


not sure if this was mentioned in the earlier posts but TC mentioned the H3 version of the suit so we're talking about the Mk. VI

It seems to me that it all comes down to who is in the Suit - So if you swaped Alcatraz and Master Chief and put them in one anothers suits the Nanosuit would win, but as it is, I'd have to say MJOLNIR wins - And I hate Halo with a passion, so there is no bias there..

On slight tangent to the original post - If anyone here has actually read Richard Morgans 'Takashi Kovacs' Sci-fi series - Kovacs would beat down both Master Chief and the Nanosuit without wearing a state-of-the-art combat suit and still have time to snort a bunch of tetrameth and get laid before the he'd even broken into a sweat.

Dante > all

It seems to me that it all comes down to who is in the Suit - So if you swaped Alcatraz and Master Chief and put them in one anothers suits the Nanosuit would win, but as it is, I'd have to say MJOLNIR wins - And I hate Halo with a passion, so there is no bias there..

On slight tangent to the original post - If anyone here has actually read Richard Morgans 'Takashi Kovacs' Sci-fi series - Kovacs would beat down both Master Chief and the Nanosuit without wearing a state-of-the-art combat suit and still have time to snort a bunch of tetrameth and get laid before the he'd even broken into a sweat.

Dante > all


thats no fair because Dante Can't die -.-

and in regards to my previous post we need to know whether we're talking about Master Chief from the books or from the game because in the books he's made to be invincible

The nanosuit can cloak, and therefore win. Unless anyone can point out a countermeasure that MC could use against this, the matter is settled.


CELL operatives follow Alcatraz around while he is cloaked from the first level, I can't see how MC wouldn't be able to do so with massively enhanced senses. And you are also assuming that Alcatraz is going to manage to kill MC in a one hit stealth move, or by appearing behind him with a huge weapon. Don't see this happening with MC getting blind drunk and having a nap......

Radar
There's no telling if it would work, and I think it's more of a game mechanic anyway.

not to mention the augmentations give Spartans heightened eyesight, and hearing, among other senses.
not to mention even if Alcatraz got the jump on the spartan the neural implants enable to suit to move as fast as the user can think so im sure the chief would be like oh **** and quickly dispatch Alcatraz. and the bones of a spartan would make their skeletal structure virtually unbreakable if he tried to snap his neck.
My clothes also move as fast as I can think, and I didn't say anything about trying to snap the neck of somebody wearing power armor.

CELL operatives follow Alcatraz around while he is cloaked from the first level.
They do this because Crytek didn't bother to take into account the player's decisions. Scripted events trigger no matter what.

And you are also assuming that Alcatraz is going to manage to kill MC in a one hit stealth move, or by appearing behind him with a huge weapon.
Of course he'll manage to kill him.

They do this because Crytek didn't bother to take into account the player's decisions. Scripted events trigger no matter what.




It is any CELL operative, and any AI through-out the game, Try it.

Get in cloak, get near a CELL operative, when they start following you start backing away slowly, back away in circles, the CELL operative will continue to follow you without the threat bar budging in the slightest. You can do this forever and occasionally they shoot you in the face, but only ocasionally.

I have tried this on all of the difficultly levels just to confirm the AI was as retarded as i thought it was.

Also we have been told what version suit MC is wearing but not what version Alcatraz is wearing (unless I missed that particular post in this awesomely nerdish thread): 1? (Crysis1), 1.5? (MP suits), 2? (SP suit) or 2.2 the suit in the book.....

It is any CELL operative, and any AI through-out the game, Try it.

Get in cloak, get near a CELL operative, when they start following you start backing away slowly, back away in circles, the CELL operative will continue to follow you without the threat bar budging in the slightest. You can do this forever and occasionally they shoot you in the face, but only ocasionally.
This is a problem with the AI, not a feature.

uh no...watch the cutscenes, it is clearly stated that the Suit is replacing Alcatraz' damaged tissue.

which mission so i can watch the cutscene... is it the one from dead man walking?

in game the spartan armor ain't so strong as everybody says like what is benchprass a tank? while the nanosuit 1 does what it says on the tin plus you get to turn invisible and you can tag a spartan soldier and assasinate him... also whats the point of the ai doing stuff before you can if the human is still slow?

I'd love to know what good flipping a tank does when someone cloaks, moves behind you and fires a rocket.
Covenant Elites can turn invisible as well. And yet, Spartans manhandle them on a daily basis.

also whats the point of the ai doing stuff before you can if the human is still slow?
An AI speeds up the wearer's reflexes. When Master Chief performed a field test with an AI implant, he was able to knock a missile away midflight since the AI sped up his reflexes.

And how the hell is Master Chief slow? He was able to cross 50 meters in a few seconds with a torn Achilles heel. And he was able to dodge bullets with the help of his armor. That's not slow at all.

brain slow... so the ai controlled his body? well there is a 400 year difference between the suits... and the nanosuit isn't really human technology

also again in halo you can't sprint anywhere like that... even in reach with the mod so its all just stories from the universe... in real life(game) i see the nanosuit being better

the ai is an implant? not the suit?

brain slow... so the ai controlled his body? well there is a 400 year difference between the suits... and the nanosuit isn't really human technology
No. The AI merely enhanced his reflexes since an AI could think faster than a human being.

the ai is an implant? not the suit?
Correct, the AI is merely a chip than can be implanted into the suit's deep crystal layer.

brain slow... so the ai controlled his body? well there is a 400 year difference between the suits... and the nanosuit isn't really human technology
No. The AI merely enhanced his reflexes since an AI could think faster than a human being.

the ai is an implant? not the suit?
Correct, the AI is merely a chip than can be implanted into the suit's deep crystal layer.

oh... so then the main thing in a spartan is the human then while in the nanosuit you saw how an ordinary marine can use it? but would the ai be quick enough when either a- some one shoots you with a gauss rifle or b- when a knife is sticking in ur neck ( do spartans get surprised?) too bad the nano suit is semi alien tech... woulda loved to build one

who is that dude who said that his bones are unbreakable? the point of snapping ones neck is to destroy the spinal cord thing so they get dead

Both are ficticial. but Nanosuit wins in originality and design.Spartan armor looks like motocross equipment.

^^ I said they are virtually unbreakable
that's taken straight from the wiki look it up if you have too I only brought it up because it may give the wearer of the NS a hard time trying to snap his neck before the spartan flipping him off his back.


I'm sure the AI doesn't need to be implanted into a suit so the spartan cam move faster as taken from the books during the field test of the Mjolnir armor not sure if it was just because a marine was trying to use the suit but when a normal solder tried moving one of the arm of the Mjolnir it moved so fast it shatter the bones in his arm.

all this argument comes down to is if we're speaking from the side of master chief from the game or the books.
if from the GAME then it would be a fair close fight, if we're speaking from the books point of view, then chief would win hands down.

that would be like samus fighting someone in a nanosuit (cloak would be rendered useless because of the visors) or iron man fighting whoever in his suit that regens along with lasers that can cut though mountains

^^ I said they are virtually unbreakable
that's taken straight from the wiki look it up if you have too I only brought it up because it may give the wearer of the NS a hard time trying to snap his neck before the spartan flipping him off his back.


I'm sure the AI doesn't need to be implanted into a suit so the spartan cam move faster as taken from the books during the field test of the Mjolnir armor not sure if it was just because a marine was trying to use the suit but when a normal solder tried moving one of the arm of the Mjolnir it moved so fast it shatter the bones in his arm.

all this argument comes down to is if we're speaking from the side of master chief from the game or the books.
if from the GAME then it would be a fair close fight, if we're speaking from the books point of view, then chief would win hands down.

that would be like samus fighting someone in a nanosuit (cloak would be rendered useless because of the visors) or iron man fighting whoever in his suit that regens along with lasers that can cut though mountains

DON'T FORGET the nanosuit has strength mode, i don't get how armor plating makes you stronger... Shepard would pawn both of them! don't use the books really as references as books make them seem invincible...

Who cares? it has F-all to do with PCs.

uh....shepard can exercise a force of 1250 newtons with a biotic punch...that is the impact force os a 20 pounds bowling ball hitting a wall at 450 KPH (using a decelation of 1 for sake of calculation)...yeah....Lore Wise biotic Shepard = ownage


still we are not talking about Mass Effect

oh yeah? well dragonite can use hyperbeam....

in an extremely prolonged battle: say 3 years, the MJOLNIR would win because the Nanosuit slowly deteriorates the body. But that's taking into account the person operating.

this is what i think would happen/be the result!



LOL

Games: NS2 wins. Books: uhh I'd say NS2 still wins due to the halo books way over exaggerating Spartan Armors power and also because of the new Crysis Legion book which describes a lot about the Nanosuit as well.

thats no fair because Dante Can't die -.-


Anything goes in SCI-Fi world

oh yeah? well dragonite can use hyperbeam....

in an extremely prolonged battle: say 3 years, the MJOLNIR would win because the Nanosuit slowly deteriorates the body. But that's taking into account the person operating.

what do ya mean deteriorates? nanosuit ftw! plus its voice!