It may not be steady trade between the East and West, but trade all the same. It is unlikely that it takes the form of coast to coast caravans, though. It is more likely the trade is settlement to settlement and the products and information propagates like energy transfer in some kind of Brownian Movement.

I was being sarcastic...

1.We are all going to repeat ourselfs:) All those troops (dozens maybe hundreds) can easily handle robocops.

2.So their whole army is made of recruits (useless army , not logical, doesn't make sense) who is going to lead them in battle ? other recruits?

4.(Sigh) Look they must know something unless they don't want to win this battle (and they probably don't want to)

Yes it's a game but in the other factions the questlines were logical and easy to understand so i have for instance no problem with the House quests or Caesar's legion or yourself.

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OR they only have one and can't reproduce them.

1) House mentioned that the NCR didn't just annex New Vegas because even though they could have taken it easily enough, they would have suffered heavy casualties, and with Caesar so close that would've been dumb.

2. Their army isn't just recruits, I don't know why he's arguing this. You have plenty of underequipped recruits, then you have experienced veterans, rangers, etc.

The rest I'm not gunna comment on because I've been reading this argument between you guys and it's dumb. I will say one thing: Don't assume that the NCR could've easily torn through hundreds of securitrons just because you can. It's a video game. Story and gameplay are sometimes contradictory. You're basically a god in any Bethesda game.

Or they just don't want to reproduce them don't they have any proffesors,scientist or whatever to rebuild it ?

When i listen to you guys (i respect your opinion no offence) i have the feeling that the whole ncr is made of recruits and farmers

Yes, and the US ended all the problems it had with Libya in 1986 when we killed Gaddafi while he was hiding in a tent... No... Wait... We missed. Never mind. Please ignore this post.

2.My question was can't they use the experienced fighters for this job ?

1.(sorry wrong order) casulties from pistol / light machine gun fire yeah.

Well ...most of them are.The ritchest citizens are Brahmin barons.Hell they can't even build new toilet ceramics.

Having proffesors andscientist doesn't mean anything if you don't have the abilty to reproduce the materials and electronics.

I'd explain the NCR position in New Vegas in this way.....

They were attracted by the lure of abundant power that the dam provided, they expected to take control of the local population centres with ease, MR House was able to stop that with his un-upgraded robots and get the NCR to sign a bad treaty. So NCR is left with control of a dam producing lots of power, but no industrial base to make use of that power, no control of any of the population centres so little to no taxes are coming in and to top it off there is Caesar's Legion.

So the NCR is in the position of controlling a strategic asset if the could actually get any of that power to their industrial base/population, a local population which is contributing nothing to the cost of garrisoning the Mojave and a constant manpower drain from the skirmishes with the Legion. In effect they are gaining next to nothing and should have abandoned the Mojave already, instead they are simply doing the minimum necessary to maintain a presence and are making up the numbers with low quaility and poorly equipped conscripts.

Could the NCR be much stronger and better organised in the Mojave, of course they have a recent history or taking on both the Enclave (with BOS) and the BOS successfully but defeating Caeser's Legion in the Mojave gains them nothing but a short term respite from Legion attacks.

2. They do, at one point, they send in the veteran rangers. Aside from that, the Legion isn't supposed to be as weak as they seem in game. Again, gameplay and story differences. They're supposed to have insanely effective battlefield tactics, espionage abilities, and they do actually use guns when they need to.

1. Yeah.

1. Again, you're ignoring the fact that they're ill trained and have low moral. Those do not make for good troops to go up against machine-gun wielding robots. It's just that simple.

2. The basic soldier is a draftee for the most part, not the officers. Think of the NCR army as the US military around WW2. There was no standing US military, there was Officer Corps, and when in time of war, they had a draft. Same with the NCR, if you payed attention to what they said. It sounds very similar.

3. They're ignorant, I told you this already, it's not that hard to understand.

4. The NCR was easy to understand, if you payed any attention at all. They tasked you with jobs, because they're undermanned, have low moral, and need to focus on keeping the frontline as stable as they can.

Honestly, this is like going in circles with you. You're ignoring the facts being put out, and trying to be an armchair general about a video game, when you don't understand the situation. Which, ironically, is kind of like the NCR government in California, about the whole Mojave situation.

Without Caesar and Legate the legion will have no strong ,competent leaders and it will probably fall apart.

Also Caesars tent is pretty high and vanuarable to air attacks.

ncr and other factions have vertibirds we dont know what other transport they have also we now know about the airship do you think it just flies around boston and there are 2 airships in the trailer with the new transport the country just got a bit smaller

Yeah, but the Legate is nowhere near the Mojave for most of the game. He's finished a campaign out east and is moving in. If you kill Caesar, and tell people about it, you'll hear all about what's likely to happen under the Legate. But the NCR can't just kill both of them at once since he's deep in Legion territory.

I do agree with Strangelove. It doesn't seem like you paid much attention at all.

If you don't count the rangers , the rest are useless recruits ? Their must be experienced ARMY fighters to guide them.

...there are. That's why I said veterans. But the point is, a Legion Elite is supposed to be a toe to toe match with a Veteran Ranger, so.

There's plenty of experienced soldiers and commanders in the game.

We dont know who the airship flying over Boston belongs to or what its doing at this point....I lean towards it being, along with the Power Armour guy/Super Mutant combo walking past the wrecked bus as signs of the Midwestern BOS in Fallout 4 as the Midwestern BOS already used airships (in Fallout Tactics) to reach the midwest so its not really a new thing.

I doubt the NCR has the capabilty to send one or more vertibirds 3,000 miles to the east coast for no particular reason.

California... CALIFORNIA

1. Is the courier that has been in the Mojave for a couple of days well trained ?

2.Finally a good explanaition.

3. Bad writing

4.(Sigh 2) I already said everything about what you have commented here and it doesn't make sense (my opinion)

Oh so when Beth does this with the BOS on the east coast everybody is angry about the plot hole etc...

But when Obs does this everybody is like "ok it's obsidian it isn't that bad" completely ignoring the plot holes and non-logicness of this particullar faction.

These so called "facts" can be easilly denied with simple logic.

Yeah, but I think the airship the Midwest BoS used ended up crashing, which is what stranded them in the midwest.

1. Again, it's a game. The courier is the player. The player is pretty much always a god.

3. Opinion.

4.5? A few people here seem to disagree with your "simple logic."

Looks like i am fighting the whole community here

Don't take it personally. You're allowed to have a different point of view, even if you seem to be in the minority. It's what makes forums interesting

1. It's a video game, and the Fallout world/universe itself is fictional, a bit of surrendering to reality is needed. If the Courier or any PC in a game, couldn't do what they do in the game, then it wouldn't be very fun, now would it?

3. No, it's realistic. There are plenty of real world historical examples of governments and people back home, being ignorant and not understanding what's really happening on the battlefield.

4. That's because you're trying to be an armchair general, and don't understand the situation in the Mojave to begin with. Go back and play NV, and pay attention to what the NCR characters say. It's not complicated, and will all be made clear to you quick enough

No, these facts are facts purely because that's exactly how it is. How hard is it to understand that the NCR military in the Mojave is undermanned, ill trained and has low moral? And because of these facts, regardless of your opinion or lack of understanding them, they cannot go out and fight everyone and everything so easily.

Seriously, you're just ignoring things that are blatantly in the game, trying to be an armchair general without any understanding of military tactics or logistics.