ok lets say some thing like fallout actually happen and you just happened to be in the marines but not only that but you aslo happened to be very smart and knew how to make things with electronics. now asuming you have all that training and technical know how and just so happened to have the suplise laying around and you survive it all my question is ......


would you make your own NCR veteran ranger armor and ether go it alone or get a group of your marines buddys together ( and build them all NCR vet ranger armor ) and start your own group and patrol/ terrorize/ or just band together so you can live day to day in the wastes.


now from what i've gathered from the fallout wikki and just some added little things from people who have made there own ncr ranger aromor this is what they would all have. oh and the whole thing would look exactally like it does in game.

the helmet:
a war helmet, gas mask for the basic idea
technical stuff: on the side of the helmet is a ether A. 2 types of cameras with a radio entina something like CB or walki talki or b. 2 types of flash lights with radio entina.

now IMO if there the 2 types of camera they could possibly be used for the night vision part of the helmet ( EX.. in FO:NV intro he hits a buttun or switch on the side of the helmet and eyes start glowing red and its at night, anouther is when you get the riot gear in loansom road when you sneak at night you get a type of night vision )

why the cameras for the night vision well for those of you who don't know and well i'm not an expert my self but they don't make night vision goggles that are pretty much as small as say the lensses in a gas mask to my knowledge.

so this is my idea on how some thing like this could possibly work.

you have the night vision or if you want to be able to truly see in the dark thermal vision cameras on the side and have them kenect to say maybe some kinda screen that could come down over the eye peaces on the inside of the helmet while on the out side makeing the eyes glow red just to give it the effect it has in the game.

now for all this to work on the side where the cameras are on the bigest camera would be where all the buttun/ switches ( again what ever you want them to be) would be they would be small enough to all fit. from what we see in the intro video there would only be one switch/butten.

now another idea would be that the screens on the inside would always over the eyes making you have to use the cameras and instead of an on/off switch/buttun it would be OFF/ ON/ THERMAL.
( let me know which of the 2 you would like it to be better, and maybe if this thread goes good we can all add to and make the idea of it better )



RADIO:
behind the cameras is the entina which would lead to an ear peace that connects to a mouth peace in the front of the inside of the helmet. now how IMO of how this works would be like how you see in movies and other games when they just press a buttun on there ear peace or buttun that goes to ear peace on the out side of a helmet which in this case would be the out side of the helmet. and would prett much work like a CB or walki talki where you have to hold down a buttun to talk and the butten would be under the entina part. there could also be some kinda of nob to turn so you could change chanles next to the buttun to talk or some were.

INSIDE OF HELMET:
would be a little bit of the wireing but would have stuff over parts of them so it not uncomfertable. there would be a little fan for air flow and also for when its hot it will keep you cool. the tube that you see comming off of the side would come into the helmet and on the outside would connect to the water pack on you back so you could drink with out having to take the mask and helmet off.



now for the armor
it would be for the chest part a bullet proof vest with an outer metal peace made of the same stuff the war helmet is made out off for added protection . on the back peace would be a water tank type of thing so you always have water to drink.

now i read some where i think the fallout wikki that in some of the riot armors there is a peace that goes on you arms to help with re coil so you would put that on and wear the duster part over it. the rest is just stuff like jeans, knee gaurds and stuff like that.



ok i'm dune for now sorry for any [censored] spelling i svck at spelling lol and thank you for those of you who actually read through the whole thing.

but now with all that info of what makes up the armor and helmet and if you had all the things mentioned at the top of the post would you build your self and or friends there own suits of NCR veteran ranger armor to go out into the wastes and do what ever with oh and i forgot you would aslo happen to know how to make your own guns.

alright go. Let me know what you think of the idea and or any thing else you could add to or what you might take away if any to the armor and helmet and what you would do with the armor if some thing like fallout ever happened and you just so happened to survive to make this armor.

If it's real life, seems like a waste of time. You would just be worried about survival not looking cool out in the wasts, and your marine gear is probably all you need to wear.

I'd just wear what I was wearing originally and hope I find something better to add protection but I wouldn't weigh myself down since it's counter-productive. With skills in electronics I'd set up an electrified fence, no bastards getting near me in my sleep.

Nnnno I wouldn't care about wearing armor.
I'd try to survive and I want to be quick on my feet, so very light clothing for me.

Well obviously if I was a Marine in the Fallout Universe, I wouldn't have to make my own Veteran Ranger armor, nor would any of my Marine buddies.

That type of armor was Marine issued during the war with China, so I'd already have a suit.

I think he means in real life because he said, "say something like fallout actually happened"

If you happened to have your gear on you while serving as a marine you would have various pieces of this stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Marine_Corps_individual_equipment

Basically you could get similar protection as the NCR armor, the MTV, the lightweight helmet, and the M50 gasmask. Instead of jeans and a trench coat you would have your camo clothing.

well i was saying with stuff like the thermal vision you would be able to see where people were at even during the day so when your say scavenging for food or some thing you could plan out how you might get into a place. like just scoting the place out for a while. and if worse comes to worse you would have the protection of the armor just incase some one starts shooting at you.

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well conseidering that you were smart enough to build the armor lets just say that you could make it extreamly light to or make a heavy version like the elite riot geat that has armor all over.

http://www.falloutwiki.com/File:EliteRiotGear.png

Well in the scenario you are a US marine, so are use to and trained to use the armor you use, which would be about 35 pounds counting all the armor alone.

Again, don't really care, time is of the essence and I need to loot certain places before they're all tapped out, I can't waste my time building a fancy armor.

yeah thats what i was saying but now if you were tt band together and or maybe get people to join your group you could train new people with your skills as a marine and for those that want to have some thing light they could were the lightest version of the ncr vet armor to be like a scout or if you have rankings set up for your group the lightest version could be the first armor you would get a new memeber of the group.

now i also had anouther idea since your making different versions light/ heavy you could also make versions of the armor to go with the seasons. like how we saw the winterized T 51 b in fallout 3 but pretty much in my view of it the winterized NCR veteren ranger armor would be pretty much the same as is but instead the duster would be made into a winter coat and the color would be white.
or depending on your suroundings it could stay the same color or what ever color you might think best be it brown, white or some kinda camo.

My bad, misread it. In that case, no I'd just stick with my Marine combat gear.

And yeah, I'm aware of what Marines have to wear, I trained and lived with that stuff for 7 years in the desert, 6 of them straight in a row.

But why do I need an armor, excuse me, "Why do I need an armor handcrafted by me personally"?
If I need to create a custom armor I'll do it way later when I have the time and I've secured other things, until then it's either makeshift armor or a bullet vest I've borrowed from the police, swat or army.
Quite simply, it's not a priority, if I want an armor I'll just buy it or loot it.
And I'm not gonna start a faction, I'm not leader[censored] material, so creating a faction armor is pointless for me. I'll just wear one a faction gives to me when/if I join one.

Now to the other point, would I like a fancy armor?
Nnnnnno.
Because that is going to draw attention, like "that guy seems really tough, look at his armor and weapon, I bet he has some great stuff in that backpack of his" and uh, yeah.
I'd rather blend in than stand out.
So a custom created armor like the Veteran Armor? It's pointless for me.

The post wasn't for you, but for frylock.

ok ok i see what your saying gabriel now lets put it this way you have every thing in order and the the group is already together and you happen upon them and they offer for you to join then what

My point is you already have the armor, so why wouldn't you use it.

and the suit is built to your specific wants and needs so it would be light weight making you be able to run fast and also in the helmet when ever your looting some place you would have the night vision with some flash lights to along with it. so why would you not want to wear it and yes i get you would stand out but wouldn't you rather be wearing armor and have a better chance at living from dat to day than not having any armor and people could shoot you and kill in one hit or just some thing like that

Some people just don't like Veteran Armor. It's not like Veteran Armor makes or breaks, what happens to you, there are other armors that can protect you just as well, and if something like Fallout were to happen, I doubt many people would be looking for trouble like they are in the games, because it would mean the chance of not coming out on top, and people would likely only attack others when they were confident they had the upper hand.

A group who previously were in the military and has around 2 dozen members with high-end weaponry and custom armors?
Hell yeah I'd join them.
Gives me a place to stay, a place to call home, people I (hopefully) can trust, weapons, ammo, armor, water, et cetera.
Why wouldn't I join them?

But this was not about joining them, it was about whether or not I'd create the armor myself if I had the know-how and military training.
And in that regard, no, I wouldn't.

Again, because it attracts unneeded attention.
A bulletproof vest I can use under other clothing, but a custom created armor like the Veteran Armor is gonna make heads turn.
And I don't need trouble cause some bandits think I might have something delicious in my backpack.

Now, as to what I said to Frylock223, I'd use the armor if I had others watching my back.
Cause I doubt some bandits with crowbars and maybe 1 or 2 guns is gonna want to give me and 3 others with assault rifles any reason to tear them apart.
But alone, it'd just attract unneeded attention.

well i picked veteran armor cause well it IMO is the most realistic of some of the high end arors in the game and i'm not talking about stuff like leather and metal i'm talking more along the lines or PA NCR vet now ncr vet would be some thing that we today could be cable of doing minus the night vision/ thermal vision lenses or screens

so NCR vet armor is some thing we could build today and possibly if we had the know how and the stuff to make it we could put it together if a fallout situation ever happens


now for those of you that don't want NCR vet armor i have new question what type of armor ( realistcally of couse )from the games would you want to have

and also lets still countinue about the NCR vet armor i would still like to know every ones oppinion on that as well

the NCR vet armor wouldn't be about looking cool it would be about protection on your part and whle also beig able to survay the area before you go in ( where thermal/ night vision comes into play )

for example you see a place that looks likie you could loot it but before you barge right in and get your selff shot at you would use you thermal vision from the helmet to see if and how many people are around the area if there are only a few people then you could go for it and see if there hostile or not if there are a lot of people then you could decide to just move on.

now say while your scouting the area some one spots you this is where the armor would come in at and if they shoot you'll be able to ether take them on or get the hell out of there with minamal damage to your self.


so while yes you would look awesome it its not for the looks its for the protection helping determen wether you live or die

cause if you your not wearing the NCR armor or any armor for that matter and your scouting out an are and you get into a gun fight you would now have a higher chance of getting killed whille i'm sure the NCR armor won't garenty that you won't get kill its a better choice to have on and lower the risk of dying

oh check this out forgot about this video until just now this guy made an NCR vet armor costume while over in Iraq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O7Jbsuytqo&list=FLyglzF_Kdnr3V23C0Z4AmbA&index=17&feature=plpp_video



this is actually where i got the idea of being in the marines from i don't know if this guy is in the marines but yeah

well me and my friend were talking and if and when we go to collage we're gonna have our minors be in electronics and we are gonna make our selfs an NCR vet armor or at least the helmet
we're also gonna find a guy who is magoring in camera electronics to help with the thermal vision part what do you guys think

What thermal vision? Are you talking about the red light that's supposed to turn on in the eyes of the mask, and does on that one Riot Armor? That's not thermal, it's just red light. If it was thermal you'd see various colors (blue, yellow, orange, red, etc.) since thermal tells you various heat signatures of things, not necessarily where a target is. Thermal isn't a very good target indicator since if they're warm and their environment is warm (or vice versa and everything's cold,) you can't tell them very well from the environment. They use red lighting because your eyes adjust better to red light, than white light, when going from black. They use red lighting on subs and ships, etc.

this is what i'm talking about when i say thermal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAvnMYqj2c0

this might work to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGXbgWqpiUw