Necromancers

Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:53 am

Is there a certain Aedra or Daedra or anything that Necromancers worship specifically?

As in what are their religious beliefs, if any?
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Alina loves Alexandra
 
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 6:20 pm

All we really know of is The Worm God Mannimarco.
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Post » Wed May 19, 2010 12:24 am

Is there a certain Aedra or Daedra or anything that Necromancers worship specifically?

As in what are their religious beliefs, if any?

They seem to worship Mannimarco, and the Necromancers Moon seems to play a part, although it isn't clear exactly what part
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 3:06 pm

Aedra don't advocate necromancy, at least not Arkay. In fact, necromancers call him "Arkay the Enemy," which in that book, Mannimarco likes to make comparisons with Arkay about how both being gods who command life and death and gods who were once mortal. His priests prevent necromancers from raising the dead or trapping souls of humanoids.

Some Daedra don't either like Meridia.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 7:01 pm

Clavicus Vile is often associated with necromancers. He is not a "patron" god however, he only likes to trade with souls. Granted, so do most Daedra.
Still, he is kinda profilic.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 11:11 pm

Muthsera,

The School of Julianos, as the keepers of the Elder Scrolls and the Imperial Library itself, was asked not too long ago for information on necromancy, its deities and beliefs. I shall recreate http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=802804&st=0&p=11670793&hl# for you below. I hope it helps.

Yours in the Scrolls,


___The Word Merchant of Julianos

Muthsera Vivra Omisran Akathon,

In the name of JHUNAL and all the Divines, welcome to the lore forum. May your time here be well spent in conversation and exploration of the obtuse and sublime.

With that being said, I shall attempt to answer your queries to the best of the ability given to me by my Lord Julianos (blessed be His holy name!).

The god of the necromancers is Mannimarco, known in his mortal life as the "King of Worms", although he is called the "God of Worms" post-apotheosis. His worshipers, known as "Anchorites", band together in the Order of the Black Worm. Mannimarco the god sends a message to his followers in Necromancer's Moon. The epic poem "Mannimarco, King of Worms" by Horicles sheds more light on this mysterious figure. Mannimarco's cosmic enemy is the Divine Arkay, described in the King of Worms' book Arkay The Enemy.

The capturing of "black souls" is a necromantic practice that can be explored in Souls, Black and White, and the instructions on how to create a "black soul gem" is detailed in an Anchorite's Note.

The necromancer Falcar's hastily scrawled note contains locations of altars that can be used to create black soul gems. Found during the Mages Guild quest "Necromancer's Moon".

Ancestors and the Dunmer is a kind of pamphlet describing the Dunmeri religion.

The Doors of the Spirit is a semi-religious text focusing on the tradition of the Dunmer- ancestor worship. This book discusses the ways in which spirits, or ancestors, are all around us and how they should be cared for.

On the Preparation of The Corpse details the proper way to create undead minions.

The Book of Life and Services allows one to recite a chant to the Skeletons in the game to make them fight for oneself.

An anonymous author wrote Legions of the Dead, a scholarly work about the Undead. Significantly less sketchy than most other books on this topic.

Blasphemous Revenants demonstrate the Dunmer point of view about summoning the dead.

Opusculus Lamae Bal ta Mezzamortie - Vampire lore - their creation, and the origin of the Lamae Bal, the Blood Matron.

The Tome of Unlife is a book belonging to Lorgren Benirus, a man seeking lichdom.

The Black Arts On Trial by Arch-Mage Hannibal Traven is a summary of a debate about necromancy.

Manifesto Cyrodiil Vampyrum is information about the Vampires of Cyrodiil.

Immortal Blood is a fictitious tale about a vampire hunter who likes to surprise his enemies by striking the first blow. Nothing seems to take him by surprise. Well... Almost.

Greywyn's Journal details the conflicts between vampire and Dark Brotherhood.

Journal of the Lord Lovidicus, who is Agronak Gro-Malog's father, Arena Grand Champion. This journal proves that Vampires are fertile. Found during the Miscellaneous quest "Origin Of The Gray Prince".

Lord Jaren's Journal details what happened to Lord Kain at the hands of a lich.

The Path of Transcendence is by Celedaen, a member of Mages Guild who practiced Necromancy to gain lichdom.

Scrap from Lorgren's Diary, who is the ancient Necromancer of Anvil.

A note describing a vampire's dislike of garlic is Vicente's Note to Ocheeva.

A Worn, Faded Note is found on the corpse of the Vampire Ghola gro-Muzgol.

Vampires of the Iliac Bay is self-explanatory.

Serjo, this is my submission to you up to this point. It is possible that I have missed a few texts along the way, however I, in good faith, believe that Julianos will direct us further if need be. Feel free to submit any further queries to the Chapel of Julianos Correspondence and Intake Department. (Ask for the Word Merchant...tell them I sent you.)

I hope this message finds you well. Keep the Empire and Law in your heart and mind always, and remember to Walk Always In The Steps of The Divine.

Yours in the Scrolls,

___The Word Merchant of Julianos

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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 10:52 pm

All we really know of is The Worm God Mannimarco.

he is not a god just a over richues leader that wants the destruction of the mages guild speciffically arxch mage traven
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:44 pm

he is not a god just a over richues leader that wants the destruction of the mages guild speciffically arxch mage traven

Who do you think makes those altars work?
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 3:09 pm

Who do you think makes those altars work?


Exactly not to mention all of the horrible issues that come up when you factor in the dragon break.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 11:20 pm

It should probably be pointed out that necromancy is a thing you do (or study), not a lifestyle. Jokes about Mannimarco being the only nercomancer in the vill-ahge aside. (Edit: This idea has legs! I will pen the script!)
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Post » Wed May 19, 2010 1:00 am

he is not a god just a over richues leader that wants the destruction of the mages guild speciffically arxch mage traven


You need to play Daggerfall buddy, he's pretty clearly a god.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 11:46 pm

You need to play Daggerfall buddy, he's pretty clearly a god.

Just not a very powerful one. For a god, at least.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 2:56 pm

Just not a very powerful one. For a god, at least.

Depends on whether that was actually Mannimarco, the King of Worms or Mannimarco, the God of Worms.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 6:50 pm

Not very powerful? For a good reason, too. He's a niche deity, like a patron saint of plumbers.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 2:05 pm

Depends on whether that was actually Mannimarco, the King of Worms or Mannimarco, the God of Worms.

I personally don't believe that there are still two; I figure that the man and god merged into one when the Dragon Break occured. Remember, he can only eclipse Arkay for one day per week.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:02 pm

We don't know much about Necromancers do we?
Maybe that will be a big hit in the next game. Who knows.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 6:17 pm

We don't know much about Necromancers do we?
Maybe that will be a big hit in the next game. Who knows.

I wouldn't mind there being some, but if they put necromancers as the main antagonist I'd be afraid of this turning into just another zombie-killing-fest...
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 9:33 am

And that would be pretty...weak, for the sake of not resulting to vulgarity.

Unless you fought Wulfharth or some crap like that...but that's just a random pipe dream and pretty illogical, for more than one reason, I feel.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 11:26 pm

It'll be pretty cool if Mannimarco gets the position as the Enemy of his own game. Like maybe in daggerfall, he wishes to get to make him even more powerful and be ranked among the main gods
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 1:35 pm

Would be pretty cool to be in a Necromancer faction though.

No story line just a faction :)
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Post » Wed May 19, 2010 1:18 am

Not very powerful? For a good reason, too. He's a niche deity, like a patron saint of plumbers.

Most of the Nine are pretty much niche deities too, you know.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 12:16 pm

It'll be pretty cool if Mannimarco gets the position as the Enemy of his own game. Like maybe in daggerfall, he wishes to get to make him even more powerful and be ranked among the main gods


Um... did you quote the plot of Daggerfall on purpose? :P

Anyway, I was just seized by sudden inspiration. I seem to recall someone mentioning something about a new moon orbiting Arkay... but I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, and I never knew the reference for that. Could someone tell me what I am trying to remember?
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 7:46 pm

I think the Jills weren't able to overwrite the God of Worms completely. The Revenant seems to prove that there is an otherworldly power that gives the Necromancers power over Arkay's Laws.

Possibly if Mannimarco had won, his new planet would have eclipsed Arkay at all times, but the Jills downgraded him to a moon and he can now only eclipse Arkay 1 day out of a seven day week? Seven days in a week, seven possible endings to Daggerfall. One where Mannimarco became a god, one day a week where the Revenant appears.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 6:09 pm

Um... did you quote the plot of Daggerfall on purpose? :P

Anyway, I was just seized by sudden inspiration. I seem to recall someone mentioning something about a new moon orbiting Arkay... but I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, and I never knew the reference for that. Could someone tell me what I am trying to remember?


What I meant was that maybe in another game that he would find ANOTHER artifact that wuld make him acend from a 'niche god' to a god of the divine's class.
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Post » Tue May 18, 2010 7:22 pm

Most of the Nine are pretty much niche deities too, you know.

Except for them having, you know, nearly universal appeal and application. Unless you were trying to completely ignore the context of the word niche as Paw Prints used it.

Anyway, I was just seized by sudden inspiration. I seem to recall someone mentioning something about a new moon orbiting Arkay... but I'm not sure if I'm remembering correctly, and I never knew the reference for that.

This is an interpretation of what the Necromancer's Moon actually is, and what's he's doing when:
    http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/necromancers_moon.shtml

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