Need Better Looking Faces : IV

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:06 pm

I have been looking past day for a way to make less ugliness in Oblivion. To me NPC and starting races way too ugly. At least if 50/50 is okay but most faces I see are not nice to look at.

I am using FCOM and have choice of Cobl races or Race Balancing Project. So is there a mod which will work with this kind of setup and improve facial appearance for NPC as well as starting races? Also I am using HGEC body with high res textures incase that makes a difference.

By the way I tried to make my own character female better looking but default race starting appearance is so bad that no matter what I try to do she is still so ugly - if I put paper bag over her head it would be an improvement from what am I able to create.

Thanks for help

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:39 pm

Try using http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5643 in combination with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9534 (install enayla's after IFT) these in combination with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16843 make for a far less ugly Cyrodiil.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:26 pm

Tamriel NPCs Revamped - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16843 <-- You can search for the mod on Google if you want the non-OMOD version.

If you use RBP, grab that. If you decide to use COBL, it has TNR bundled.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:25 pm

Tamriel NPCs Revamped - http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16843 <-- You can search for the mod on Google if you want the non-OMOD version.

If you use RBP, grab that. If you decide to use COBL, it has TNR bundled.

Which do you think is better Cobl or RBP? Can a person use both or would that create probs? Also isn't TNR included with bundled in with RBP & Cobl - or do I still need to install it independently?

Thanks

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:56 pm

Which do you think is better Cobl or RBP? Can a person use both or would that create probs?

Cobl is like an RBP light so you can't use both. If you only are after more options for races, hairs, eyes - go for Cobl. If you like the other stuff that RBP does - go for that. Both comes with TNR variants.

Try using http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=5643 in combination with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9534 (install enayla's after IFT) these in combination with http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16843 make for a far less ugly Cyrodiil.

That's exaclty what I'm using, except I've recently switched from Enayla to F-IN evOblivion (can honestly not see that much difference, though). Also, using Cobl TNR.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:36 pm

By the way I tried to make my own character female better looking but default race starting appearance is so bad that no matter what I try to do she is still so ugly - if I put paper bag over her head it would be an improvement from what am I able to create.

The facial geometry for the default Oblivion races is so odd that it's very difficult to create good-looking characters. It's much easier with some custom races, which have different facial geometry.

If you have a program to move faces around (Face Exchange Lite or Wrye Bash), you could look at http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/Oblivion/Heads/OblivionFacesHome.htm, which has a lot of pre-made faces up for grabs.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:26 pm

The facial geometry for the default Oblivion races is so odd that it's very difficult to create good-looking characters. It's much easier with some custom races, which have different facial geometry.

If you have a program to move faces around (Face Exchange Lite or Wrye Bash), you could look at http://www.zyworld.com/redwoodtreesprite/Oblivion/Heads/OblivionFacesHome.htm, which has a lot of pre-made faces up for grabs.

I am a bit uneasy about loading a save game because so many times readme talks about problems and having to start new character etc but some of the pics on the site you linked say they have 'slider values' so I will give this a try

Thanks for tip and some of the creations people made are amazing!

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:22 am

I am a bit uneasy about loading a save game because so many times readme talks about problems and having to start new character etc but some of the pics on the site you linked say they have 'slider values' so I will give this a try

Thanks for tip and some of the creations people made are amazing!

No need to load the save game - you can import a face from a save game to your char with Wrye Bash. That's how I do it as I svck at making faces - then I tweak it a bit so it feels unique.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:45 pm

If you want to go for complete overkill, there's http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=30857. Got a good chuckle out of the Jauffre screenshot.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 2:13 pm

Which do you think is better Cobl or RBP? Can a person use both or would that create probs? Also isn't TNR included with bundled in with RBP & Cobl - or do I still need to install it independently?

Thanks

I am an RBP fan all the way, but if you do not like its racial rebalances, use COBL instead.

The ReadMe on the main site is down, but I have (temporarily) uploaded it to TESIV:POSITive - http://tesivpositive.animolious.com/?page=online_readmes&subpage=bgBalancingEV10_5_Readme

I am also an IFT fan and an Enayla fan too. However, using navetsea or Ozmo's texture may look nicer with the HGEC body, since the body and face texture would match (better than with Enayla's.)

Edit: wording

Edit: I am definitely not a fan of the "make everyone look hot" mods, but there are a number of mods that change NPC faces: Handsome Gents, Younger Hotter NPCs, Beautiful Women (I think is the other mod released by the Handsome Gents author) and there is another one that tries to make more realistic changes, cannot remember the name, and others I cannot recall the names of...

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 2:24 am

Is TNR compatible with OOO and MMM?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:18 pm

Is TNR compatible with OOO and MMM?

Yes because you only need Bash to import the faces. Leave them deactivated in your load order. I prefer the stand-alone TNR to the versions bundled with RBP and COBL because I do not like seeing NPCs with anime-ic hair...

My Load Order

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  CURP_Controller.esm0D  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0E  TRoN.esp**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]12  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]13  Better Cities .esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]18  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]19  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1A  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]1B  MIS.esp1C  Distant Chapel Bells.esp1D  Cities Alive At Night.esp1E  WindowLightingSystem.esp1F  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp20  ImprovedSigns.esp++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]21  Willful Resistance.esp  [Version 4.0]22  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.2]23  Populated Prisons.esp24  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  RustyItems.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp**  mz_Shields_SI.esp25  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]26  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp27  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]28  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]29  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]2A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]2B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]2C  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]2F  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]34  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]35  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]36  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  TamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp  [Version 2]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]37  Kvatch Reclaimed.esp38  Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp39  BetterInns + NewHomeOwners.esp  [Version 1.2]3A  TheElderCouncil.esp3B  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp3C  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp3D  Mighty Umbra.esp3E  Blood&Mud.esp3F  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]40  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6.5]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]42  FCOM_OMG.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_OMGSRT.esp  [Version 0.9.9]43  PersonalPackGuars.esp  [Version 0.56]44  FightersGuildContracts.esp45  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]46  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.1]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]47  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.1]48  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp49  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]4A  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]4B  SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp  [Version 2.6]4C  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.4.2]4D  SM Rest.esp4E  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]4F  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp50  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]51  Armorer's Advantage.esp52  SM Hand Combat.esp  [Version 1.0]53  nGCD.esp54  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp55  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]56  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]57  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]58  ProgressRacial.esp59  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]5A  Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]5B  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp5C  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5D  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.2]5E  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVCore - Limr'l.esp++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp5F  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]60  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]61  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]62  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]63  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp64  Better Imperial City.esp**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock.esp**  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]65  UnderdarkSaga.esp++  Faces - Companions.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]66  Bashed Patch, 0.esp67  FormID Finder4.esp68  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:53 am

Yes because you only need Bash to import the faces. Leave them deactivated in your load order. I prefer the stand-alone TNR to the versions bundled with RBP and COBL because I do not like seeing NPCs with anime-ic hair...

My Load Order

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  underdark.esm02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b]05  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  CyrodiilUpgradeResourcePack.esm09  TamrielTravellers.esm  [Version 1.39c]0A  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  CURP_Controller.esm0D  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]0E  TRoN.esp**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp0F  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]12  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]13  Better Cities .esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]18  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]19  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1A  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp++  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD - SI Addon.esp  [Version 0.1]1B  MIS.esp1C  Distant Chapel Bells.esp1D  Cities Alive At Night.esp1E  WindowLightingSystem.esp1F  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp20  ImprovedSigns.esp++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]21  Willful Resistance.esp  [Version 4.0]22  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.2]23  Populated Prisons.esp24  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  RustyItems.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp**  mz_Shields_SI.esp25  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]26  Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp27  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]28  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]29  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]2A  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]2B  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]2C  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]2D  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2E  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]2F  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]30  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]31  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  TamrielTravellerAdvscript.esp  [Version 1.40Alpha]34  TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp  [Version 1.39c]++  TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp  [Version 1.39c]35  TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp  [Version 1.39c]36  ShiveringIsleTravellers.esp  [Version 1.39c]**  TamrielTravellersHorseTextures.esp  [Version 2]++  FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  PersuasionOverhaul_OOO.esp  [Version 1.2]++  PersuasionOverhaul_MMM.esp  [Version 1.2]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]37  Kvatch Reclaimed.esp38  Slof's Oblivion Goth Shop.esp39  BetterInns + NewHomeOwners.esp  [Version 1.2]3A  TheElderCouncil.esp3B  TEC_4ERA_Dialog_Filter.esp3C  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp3D  Mighty Umbra.esp3E  Blood&Mud.esp3F  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]40  Origin of the Mages Guild.esp  [Version 6.5]++  FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp  [Version 0.9.9]42  FCOM_OMG.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_OMGSRT.esp  [Version 0.9.9]43  PersonalPackGuars.esp  [Version 0.56]44  FightersGuildContracts.esp45  Better Cities - House price patch.esp  [Version 1.0]46  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.1]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]47  Cliff_BetterLetters.esp  [Version 1.1]48  PersuasionOverhaul.esp  [Version 1.43]++  Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp49  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]4A  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]4B  SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp  [Version 2.6]4C  RealSleepExtended.esp  [Version 2.4.2]4D  SM Rest.esp4E  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]4F  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp50  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]51  Armorer's Advantage.esp52  SM Hand Combat.esp  [Version 1.0]53  nGCD.esp54  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp55  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]56  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]57  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]58  ProgressRacial.esp59  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]5A  Legendary Abilities-Shield MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]5B  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp5C  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp++  Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]5D  1em_Vilja.esp  [Version 2.2]5E  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVCore - Limr'l.esp++  TamrielTravellers Cosmetics Cobl or RBP.esp5F  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]60  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]61  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]62  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]63  Better Cities Full - B&M Edition.esp64  Better Imperial City.esp**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock.esp**  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]65  UnderdarkSaga.esp++  Faces - Companions.esp**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]66  Bashed Patch, 0.esp67  FormID Finder4.esp68  Streamline 3.1.esp

Thanks for posting your Load Order - any chance you can include easy to follow step by step instructions/guide that goes with it as well?

I joke but part of me is serious cause there are too many ways a person can mess things upl: wrong version, wrong install sequence, incompatibilities etc

It would be so nice to choose a load order from an experienced modder and then follow his/her instructions.

Just an idea

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:27 pm

With TNR I downloaded an OMOD that let you choose which races you wanted, I suggest it to you because you might not like the direction that the author took with some of the races (I wan't a huge fan of the khajiits for example so I didn't use that particular esp).

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:01 pm

Thanks for posting your Load Order - any chance you can include easy to follow step by step instructions/guide that goes with it as well?

I joke but part of me is serious cause there are too many ways a person can mess things upl: wrong version, wrong install sequence, incompatibilities etc

It would be so nice to choose a load order from an experienced modder and then follow his/her instructions.

Just an idea

My installation order (which is my BAIN package list) is already on the site. There are also guides for FCOM, general installation, etc. on the site. Additionally, you can look through the RLO database to see what other users are (successfully and stably) running. I am trying to get more users to upload their load orders, but I cannot rush that process.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:32 pm

Is TNR compatible with OOO and MMM?

Yes, Wrye Bash required

And if you do not use Wrye bash

Then next Best things

Are the these for MMM setup ..

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/959987-listrelzmmm-optionial-download-and-mod-patches/page__p__13866872__fromsearch__1&#entry13866872