I'm trying to mod the script for the "A Door in Niben Bay" quest, so that the quest doesn't start until after I've done with the oblivion crisis. But then it would be silly if the Island and all still were there when the quest haven't even started yet...<_<

So this is where I need your advice: I need to disable the island and all the objects and references on it until the quest actually starts (for obvious reasons). But when all that is done I have to enable them again when the quest do start.
I know I can just check the initially disabled box on all objects, but that's going to be a lot of work if I'm to get everything covered (not to mention all the scriptwriting afterwards), so is there an easier way of doing this? Also when I actually am to write the scriptblock that's going to enable all of the references and objects again, where do I put it in the SE01DoorScript (the quest script for "A Door in Niben Bay"), and how do I write the contitions so that my modding correctly enables everything again at the time the quest begins?
Of course I have to make sure nothing of it is visible from distance when it shouldn't be either.

I'm a bit of a noob at scripting, but I at least think I pretty much understand the very basic details, but still, it would be nice of you if you could to talk about the script stuff in a manner understandable for a noob.

PS: Just so you don't get it wrong: I have no problems changing that bit of the script that adds the quest to my journal and starts it that way. Btw this is when I actually want the quest to start: When I first get the journal entry at the time I've set it to appear.

PPS: I don't use OBSE, Wrye Bash or any such things.

Weeeellll... IIRC the only way to "disable" the things on the island (and the island itself) without OBSE would be to cover it with something, like a huge rock :D:D Imagine, how stupid that'd look...

1. You place an Xmarker and give it a reference name. Check its 'initially disabled' check box.

2. You set the 'enable parent' to all the objects on the island to the Xmarker above that you dont want visible until the right time.

3. When you want the stuff to appear, you simple enable the Xmarker and everything else will enable with it.

Ok, I'll try that and see if it works

Your suggestion works, but I'm having trouble with the "Visible When Distant" stuff, basiclly the island shows up at distance and reflects in the water when nothing is there. If I was to uncheck the "visible when distant" box, is there any way I would be able to toggle it back on using a script or something?

I am not sure, but OBSE might have an option for that, or a workaround... IDK, really :-/

That is LOD related.

There is nothing that I know of that will take care of the reflection in the water.

Ok, so it must either permanently visible from distance, regardless of wether there is anything there or not, or permanently invisible, wether there is anything there or not?

Is that right?