::No Multiplayer -- Seriously. You got no idea how many people will suggest a multiplayer game after saying single player

::Preferably within the last 4-5 years. However I'm all for older games (seriously, I played Diablo 2 like... 8 months ago)

::Story driven.

::At the very least, decent character customization. -- By this, I don't mean my "looks", I mean skills, abilities, possibilities. Whatever. Just, no lame ass weak, lame, depthless crap. My entire life doesn't need to be "FIREBALL" or "HARD SWORD SWING".

::No FPS RPGs. Whilst this may be slightly biased, I had MORE than enough of this from FO3 and FO:NV

::Don't recommend FO1 and FO2. I have them.

::Something similar to Oblivion would be neat. However I hate Oblivions story and basic level-up system.

::Never Winter Nights is a no-no for 2 reasons -- If I wanted some DnD style gaming, i'd go get into DnD with my friend. And when I run it, everyone is invisible on my game. *sadpanda*

::I'm pretty much open to most types of games. If you suggest something with some FPS elements, I will still take a look into it because, again sometimes you find gems. I just need something immersive I can lose myself in. I would play Morrowwind, but I had a really bad experience with that game on release, and hate it now. It;s unfortunate because I hear it's really good.

Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines? I like it a lot, good story, good character customization. Gotta get the patches tho. And some mods.

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

About all I can think of.

I took a look at a video for it. Looks kind of interesting. I'll probably read up a bit on it if nothing else piques my interest.

I thought KOTOR was online, or was that a different one?

There's actually people on this forum who don't know KotOR? BURN HERETIC!!!

You shall be forgiven only if you forget about the upcoming MMO, get KotOR and don't come back here until you've finished it at least three times.

You shall be forgiven only if you forget about the upcoming MMO, get KotOR and don't come back here until you've finished it at least three times.

I thought KOTOR was online, or was that a different one?

Hmm, I know you said no FPS RPGs, but I have to suggest Deus Ex. It's the progenitor of that mixing of genres, and it is the premier shining example of all the things that can go RIGHT in a video game. It's a bit older, but it so awesome, it's almost beyond description. Seriously, Deus Ex!

I have to agree. The only reason I didn't bring it up, was because he said no fps.

If you suggest something with some FPS elements, I will still take a look into it because, again sometimes you find gems. I just need something immersive I can lose myself in.

Well he did also say

Which is the reason why I suggested Mass Effect - that game has FPS elements, but it's immersive as hell and generally a great RPG.

Nope, that's the upcoming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Old_Republic. BioWare has many great RPGs:

• The already mentioned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic.
  
  
• Also already mentioned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jade_Empire.
  
  
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect. Although that might technically fall into the FPS RPG category it's truly a great story-driven RPG with lots of micro-management and customisation. Also there's quite a lot of exploration and random things and side-quests you can stumble upon while exploring.
  
  
• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Age:_Origins and its expansion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Age:_Origins_%E2%80%93_Awakening.

Also a great RPG which wasn't made by BioWare but uses BioWare's engine is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher_(video_game).

Hmm, I know you said no FPS RPGs, but I have to suggest Deus Ex. It's the progenitor of that mixing of genres, and it is the premier shining example of all the things that can go RIGHT in a video game. It's a bit older, but it so awesome, it's almost beyond description. Seriously, Deus Ex!

Played Jade Empire, played DA:O + all expansions atleast 15 times through. Love the game. Also played DA2 which svcked arses. Also played ME. Loved it, however I heard bad things about ME2 (As in, got the same treatment as DA2).

I also watched a video for KoTOR, and all the gameplay consisted of, was the guy pausing to issue commands every few seconds. Is that how it works, or is it more free-based than that?

I also watched a video for KoTOR, and all the gameplay consisted of, was the guy pausing to issue commands every few seconds. Is that how it works, or is it more free-based than that?

Well then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Knights_of_the_Old_Republic and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Witcher_(video_game).

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It depends on your gaming style. Combat is real-time and the pausing is all up to you, but it gives you greater control over your companions.

I'll definitely grab KoTOR. I'm not a huge fan of star wars, but enough so I think i'd like the game

My brother who despises and hates Star Wars loved the game.

I'm picking up The Witcher. Local game store sells it at $19.99 so it's not to much. How did our version get censored and Europe's didn't? AN OUTRAGE I SAW! I DEMAND FAKE NUDITY AND GORE!!

Well... I don't know. That svcks, especially since the "nudity" is really not in-yo-face nor obtrusive. It's the same crap as with the shower scene in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_%28video_game%29 that got censored in the US.

I heard Witcher 2 is coming out, so I wanna wait for that, instead of spending money on the first.

And I guess KoTOR is similar to DA where you can pause and give orders, which I liked about DA:O.

I'll definitely grab KoTOR. I'm not a huge fan of star wars, but enough so I think i'd like the game

I'm picking up The Witcher. Local game store sells it at $19.99 so it's not to much. How did our version get censored and Europe's didn't? AN OUTRAGE I SAW! I DEMAND FAKE NUDITY AND GORE!!
I'll order KoTOR from Bioware me thinks.

That almost made me fly into a rage again, but then I saw your next post:


Excellent choice. A shame you have to put up with the censored version though, but it's such a great game that I'm almost certain you will enjoy it even without virtual boobies.