Now I know somw people won't agree with me.
But YELL BACK.
I'll let them know your not a child anymore and can stand on your own two feet.

Um... giving them a guilt trip through intellectual debate works a lot better than screaming back making them even more steamed up. Fight fire with water I say, not fire with fire.

Heh, guess your right. Sorry, but thats just good old Irish rearing for you, lol.

seriously though, get your own place.
if youve got the time and energy to play games all day long, youve got the time and energy to get a job.

everyone is in here saying that "youre all growdz up, so let them know!"
if youre all growdz up, then act like it and get your own place.

welcome to advlthood

that would just land him on the street :rofl:

I'm deficient in vitamins C, D, E, B8. as well as anemic. I am also low in estrogen and overproduce testosterone.. I take OTC vitaminsupplements, per request of the endocrinologist, who I see for the hormone issues. Which require prescription hrt. If you are so exhausted you cannot function, then you need a new endocrinologist.

if your overweight, exercise more. adipose tissue promotes estrogen causing a hormonal imbalance in males.

Alright, following tonight's comment with my mom, when I reasonably stated that I didn't like the whole bedtime situation and asked why I still needed it, said "That's the way it is in this house." So, tomorrow night, I'm just going with the classic "No" and "make me" technique.

My experience. Get a full time job and become a capable man to feed yourself, then you have a say for your life. Before that, go censor yourself.

Because that's going to make them think you're a mature advlt. :rolleyes:

It won't, but I'm rather peeved that my mom just pulled the classic "my house my rules" thing when I politely asked about it. That's hardly mature on her part. At all.

That's more of a "Do as I say, not as I do/did" situation there. If my children, for whatever reason, are still living with me at the age 18 and don't want to follow the rules I'll set and then try to throw things I did in my past in my face, I'd point blank tell them to get the [censored] out of my house. I will not have my mistakes thrown back in my face by my kids, for any reason. They didn't live my life, they don't know what might have been going on when I made those mistakes, and if they presume that they could/are doing better, then they can "do better" by getting their own place.

Thankfully, that's many years off, and hopefully I'll raise my children to be more respectful of me and my wife then you are of your parents, but I can honestly say if you were mine, I'd kick your ass out in a heartbeat.

Me? Or him? Because I honestly think I'm being quite reasonable. I'd also like to point out that if my parents have any reasons for this which I'm not aware of, then the advlt thing to do would be to explain to me why so we can work it out, not by telling me that "it's my house, like it or leave." That is HARDLY the advlt thing to do.

Lol, no, that was strictly towards the person I quoted, not you ^^ I already offered the advice I could to you back on the 2nd or 3rd page of this thread, and it remains the same now. Either politely discuss it with them(which you've tried), try to get a job regardless of your lack of energy due to whatever medical conditions you have, or find a kind-hearted friend who will let you move in and eat their food. If you do the last, perhaps if you're in enough squalor, your parents will realize that you'd rather live in squalor then have a bed-time, and maybe they'll recant their position

cant you just live like a mischievous kid and you know, not wake up your parents when you stay up past your bed time? we have all done it.

Not everything is black and white, I′m not disrespectful at them just because they′ve made some bad choices. But I do believe it shows that they can′t expect their children, namely me, to be perfect in every way. If you were not an angel as a child and if you expect your children to be. Then I believe the term for that is "hypocrite".

It′s blatantly obvious that the OP′s parents are acting extreme and if you think my method is extreme then maybe it is, but you don′t get anywhere with extreme people if you can′t put their views in a different perspective by being a little mean. Now I may come off as a little smug and condescending but that′s exactly how such controlling parents come off as. If they can not see that they themselves were not perfect (is anyone ?) then they should not expect him to be perfect. We all got our vices and I′d say staying up late was one of the lesser one, even bordering on being such a small vice that it′s not even a vice.

So to OP even if you don′t want to go that way you need to let your parents realize that they can′t expect from you what they could not expect from themselves (except if they truly are perfect).

It's also hardly mature be peeved because you didn't get an explanation.
Your mother doesn't owe you an explanation. It is your parents house, and they can set whatever rules they so desire. You are not a child, you don't have to live there. You are not their equal, you don't pay the bills, you don't contribute towards paying the bills, you haven't raised children, or had the life experience that your parents have. Either svck it up or move out. Has it occured to you that your parents are deliberately creating restrictions in an attempt to get you irritated enough to finally leave?


As for dealing with "extreme people"
If my children at age nineteen, were to give me attitude, stayed up all night, didn't contribute to the household, and demanded to be allowed to do as they please, their [censored] would be at the curb. Period. End of discussion. Actions speak louder than words, and actions in not regarding the needs other productive members of the household with their selfish behavior begs to be corrected. At the age of nineteen, they would be advlts, and therefore, legally capable of being responsible for themselves.


Mine have college already taken care of, so when they graduate high school, it's off to college that summer. advlt children need to strike out on their own for both their emotional well being and that of the parents.

exactly.

Yup.

18 to vote, and join the armed services of your choice. And to buy cigarettes (although most places now say 25). But you can't buy a firearm.

17 to drive.

21 to drink.

you can buy a rifle at 18. must be different from state to state.

where do you live that you have to be 25 to buy tobacco products?

Are you sure that's not just if you look under 25 they'll ID you? That's what they do here.

Wow, who shoved a beehive down your pants? She definitely owes me an explanation considering all the other crap I've been through. And don't you DARE tell me that the [censored] I went through a few years doesn't mean anything. I came damn close to running away with nowhere to go and even nearly killed myself because of it. So don't you dare tell me that they don't owe me a simple explanation.

Anyway, lack of proper communication and lack of understanding the reason why only works until a certain point in a person's life. "Because I said so" doesn't work for me any more.

And if they really wanted me to move out, then I hardly think that they would be encouraging me NOT to get a job or move out until I finish college.

Would true, loving parents kick their son out? I sure hope not.

There's more to love than pampering and bending down to your children's wants. If an advlt living in your house needs to be kicked out for one reason or another, let it be. (not referring to the OP)