What a brilliant senseless system...

19 in Nebraska

Oh, yeah. You can die for your country at 18, but you're not allowed to get [censored] up before hand.

And, yes I know some military bases allow the under 21 soldiers to drink, as long as they stay on base. Just making a point.

19 with a bedtime...? I'd have a heart to heart talk with my folks about that. They might not like it but they need to see that your a grown man and it won't be much longer before you out on your own. It never easy to show your folks tough love but sometimes one just has to bite the bullet sometimes.

Yep. Number 1 baby!

I vote for stockpiling sandwiches in your closet. That way if they kick you out after the starvation attempt fails, there's a huge supply of highly-expirable meats, cheeses, and breads that will mold up the place when their futile attempts to eat it all fast enough fail.

Now I think of it, they could probably throw you out at 16 here if they really wanted to. You'd end up in some dreadful social housing scheme.



It's weird being up at 4AM, there's not another Englishman in sight.

should you take any suggestions from this thread be sure to show your parents this discussion, I am sure that will go over well.

any ways... I am not one to advocate interfering with other peoples relationships but... your a grown ass man (well almost I guess) either way; your a legally grown ass man. you are old enough to vote so elect that you stay up as late as you freakin feel like. I made my own bed time when I was 14 because you can't force some one to fall a sleep, my mom just gave up trying to get me to sleep.

lol, don't know your parents so can't say if they'd really kick you out or not but they can't really think making you homeless over what time you go to be is really going to make them look like parents of the year. I doubt kicking you out would come up over this.

btw, how do they even know your up? they check up on you?

Regardless, I certainly wouldn't want to live with someone who would do such a thing to their own grown up child just because (s)he disagrees with them and doesn't want to do exactly as they say in the first place.



("in the first place" refers to "want to live...", not "do such a thing..." or "disagrees with them..." or "want to do..." or "as they say...". English is a terrible language.)

I would say LOL to them, and proceed doing whatever.

It'd designed to confuse foreigners long enough for us to chamber a round in our Remingtons.


Well in any case, the question is what else could the parent do to compel obediance with an advlt child, but threaten to cut them off? I thought it was quite common to be honest.

I wouldn't say that's 100% accurate. It might vary by county but my parents found out that's not the case.

My parents kicked out my younger sister and they were told by the police that unless my sister signed a waiver that she could not be kicked out of the house immediately. She would still have to be given a 30 day eviction notice despite the fact that she was not technically a tenant (she wasn't even doing any chores let alone paying rent ).

OP: Bottom line, their house their rules and it doesn't matter whether or not you are paying rent. Even if you were to move out there is the possibility that the place you move into could have some pretty harsh rules themselves. Just because you have your own place that you're renting you still won't be able to do everything you want to do.

Think of your parents as your landlords (because essentially that is what they are). If they want you out they can kick you out or they can have you removed from the premise if you don't follow their rules.

However, I do sympathize with you in that you are essentially an advlt and you should be able to stay up at least an hour later

Seriously though talk with your parents and try to compromise with them. If that doesn't work try talking with them again and again if necessary.

@turnsthepage

are your parents really that hardcoe/heartless? I could understand if you were super annoying or voilent while having done nothing for a long time, but it seems so petty to pretty much screw your own child over for such immature reasons.

Oh, I don't give them a chance to let them be that punitive. It's my sister that pushes the boundaries with lying and stealing and shouting, so they keep threatening to charge her rent, kick her out, or force her to take a smaller room in the house. It's tough love, really. If the children are so immature, it's best to force them to grow up.

Yeah, well one of my biggest problems with this bedtime BS is that a few weeks ago my dad decided to shut down the power to our basemant because I was late. My fear with just flat out disobeying them is the fact that my dad WILL simply shut off the power as said before, or find a way to cut my internet connection beyond a certain time. Or just flat out cancel it.

In order to understand the kinds of things they will/won't do, we should take a magical journey back two and a half years ago when my dad tried to perform an exorcism on me because I came out to them as gay AND had emotional teen issues relating to said gayness.

My parents tend to not be very rational in certain circumstances.

Well, then I would actively look for a way to move out.

That's just the demon talking.


Although frankly I'd have moved out after the exorcism. It must be hard to live with people who think you're posessed.

move out. we aren't supposed to give life advice on these forums and I hate to dis your parents but your dad sounds like a crazy person. getting kicked out is the least of your worries, you have friends with a couch, stay there for a while. or get a job if you don't already have one (lol, I am sure any one loves that advice ) but having your parents perform an exercism over coming out of the closet or whatever is seriosly not a healthy interaction.

:lol:

Clearly.

I am serious about that by the way, it really did happen. At the time it was very straining on my emotional health, still is to be honest. It even surfaced again during my recent depression. I still don't respect my dad as much as I did before all that happened, and probably never will sadly.

I was... 16 or 17 at the time? Not old enough to move out, but that didn't stop me from considering running away. Came very close to it.

Leave.

or call a community center, or some place that offers free teen counciling (your over 18 but most councilers are caring enough to help you any ways) thats the kind of person you should really be talking about this with. a mod is bound to come and close this since its against the rules to give advice but honestly it would not be smart to take any of the advice here since a profesional might know much better how to better your life situation.

Well, generally I don't take anyone's advice at face value. It's more for me to reflect on different ideas and opinions to help determine the course of action I desire to take.

The leaving thing sounds very nice though.

it also might be more rewarding in the long run to work things out with your parents as corny and difficult as that may sound. alot of parents chill way the heck out after their kids leave the house. my dad was telling me about how my grandma locked her self in the bathroom for a whole day when he told her he did not want to be a doctor.(idk how that compares to excorsism) and she is like the mellowest person I know now. you might just have to bite the bullet a little while longer if you can't work something out with them until you can get your own place without leaving in a cloud of drama.

Getting a job and finding a place moving out is easier said than done. Preformed an exorcism on you because you're gay eesh that's pretty bad. Parents are frustrating is all the advice I really have on that one.