Hi all!

First of all, thank you for taking some of your time reading this.

I use Kobu's leveling system. The problem is, since I used the "alter destiny" spell to change the way some attributes affected my magicka, my defense, went to -15 as a default, instead of 0.
I have to curses, or diseases etc...

Anyone happens to know how to fix it? Or maybe it is only a display glitch and it doesnt affect my toon?

Thanks in advance!

Here is my load order too

Active Mod Files:
? 00 Oblivion.esm

? 01 GTAesgaard_2.esm

? 02 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm

? 03 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm

? 04 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]

? 05 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]

? 06 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]

? 07 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]

? 08 Armamentarium.esm [Version 1.35]

? 09 Artifacts.esm

? 0A Better Cities Resources.esm

? 0B HorseCombatMaster.esm

? 0C UnnecessaryViolence.esm

? 0D Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]

? 0E DLCShiveringIsles.esp

? 0F Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]

? 10 Better Cities .esp

? 11 FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 13 Natural_Weather_HDR_by_Max_Tael_RD.esp

? 14 Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 15 Natural_Water_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 16 Tamriel VWD v0.5.esp

? 17 Map Marker Overhaul.esp [Version 3.5.2]

? 18 Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp [Version 3.5]

? 19 Improved Hotkeys.esp [Version 1.1]

? 1A DLCHorseArmor.esp

? 1B DLCOrrery.esp

? 1C DLCVileLair.esp

? 1D DLCMehrunesRazor.esp

? 1E CSR - Fine Iron.esp

? 1F CSR - Golden Saint.esp

? 20 Thieves Arsenal.esp

? 21 DLCThievesDen.esp

? 22 Francesco's Optional Files.esp

? 23 Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]

? 24 Cobl Si.esp [Version 1.63]

? 25 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp

? 26 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 27 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp

? 28 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB5]

? 29 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]

? 2A OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]

? 2B OOO-Map_Markers_Stock.esp [Version 1.33]

? 2C OOO-DLT_Remover.esp [Version 1.33]

? 2D OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]

? 2E FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 2F FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

? 30 FCOM_OscurosOverhaul.esp [Version 0.9.8]

? 31 FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp [Version 0.9.9beta2]

? 32 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 33 FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

? 34 FCOM_SaferRoads.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 35 FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 36 FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 37 ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp [Version 2.01]

? 38 ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp [Version 1.35]

? 39 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]

? 3A MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]

? 3B Ivellon.esp [Version 1.8]

? 3C Artifacts.esp

? 3D Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp [Version 1.0]

? 3E GTAesgaard.esp

? 3F GTAesgaard_2.esp

? 40 Gates To Aesgaard 2 Delayer.esp [Version 1.0]

? 41 The Ayleid Steps.esp [Version 3.4]

? 42 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp

? 43 DLCfrostcrag.esp

? 44 Knights.esp

? 45 The Lost Spires.esp

? 46 Mighty Umbra.esp

? 47 FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]

? 48 FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]

? 49 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.5]

? 4A LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp

? 4B xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]

? 4C xulTheHeath.esp

? 4D XulEntiusGorge.esp

? 4E xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]

? 4F LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp [Version 1.2]

? 50 xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]

? 51 xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]

? 52 mythsandlegends.esp

? 53 xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]

? 54 xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]

? 55 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]

? 56 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.3]

? 57 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]

? 58 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]

? 59 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]

? 5A xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]

? 5B xulRollingHills_EV_withoutWheat.esp [Version 1.3.2]

? 5C xulPantherRiver.esp

? 5D xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 5E xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 5F xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.5]

? 60 xulBlackwoodForest.esp [Version 1.0.4]

? 61 xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]

? 62 DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp

? 63 xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.2]

? 64 xulSkingradOutskirts.esp

? 65 xulSnowdale.esp [Version 1.0]

? 66 FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp

? 67 Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp

? 68 P1DkeyChain.esp [Version 5.00]

? 69 Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp

? 6A SupremeMagicka.esp [Version 0.89]

? 6B SM_ShiveringIsles.esp [Version 0.86]

? 6C SM_OOO.esp [Version 0.89]

? 6D SM_MMM.esp [Version 0.89]

? 6E SM_COBL.esp [Version 0.86]

? 6F SM_NoPoisonLevitationEffects.esp

? 70 SM_EnchantStaff.esp [Version 0.80]

? 71 SM_NoSpellLights.esp [Version 0.70]

? 72 SM_Scrolls.esp [Version 0.84]

? 73 SM_SigilStone.esp [Version 0.83]

? 74 MidasSpells.esp

? 75 RenGuardOverhaul.esp

? 76 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp

? 77 DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

? 78 SM_DeadlyReflex.esp [Version 0.86]

? 79 Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp

? 7A Kobu's Lighter Backpack Mod.esp

? 7B Cobl Races.esp [Version 1.52]

? 7C Cobl Races - Balanced.esp [Version 1.52]

? 7D Better Cities Full.esp

? 7E BCChorrol-ChorrolHinterland patch.esp

? 7F Better Imperial City.esp

? 80 Better Cities - COBL.esp [Version 2.1]

? 81 Better Cities - No LEYAWIIN Flooding.esp

? 82 Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-16 day lenght rescale.esp

? 83 OOO-Magic_Script_Effect_Fix.esp [Version 1.33]

? 84 UnnecessaryViolence.esp

? ++ Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp [Version 1.53]

? 85 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

? 86 Streamline 3.1.esp

Not familiar with Kobu so not sure about that particular issue, but you could try the Stat Restore that comes with the UOP. startquest uop in the console and go from there. Any reason you're not using Realistic Leveling or nGCD instead, as you're already are using OBSE?

Will try that right away!

As for Realistic Leveling or nGCD, I might try them out. I liked Kobu's because it was integrated perfectly, and also allowed for alot of customization!

Keeping you updated on the results of UOP!

Ok, so I used the UOP fix, but now it is even worse

Think I found a part of the problem tho. I have an amulet that gives a 15% frostshield (so +15 to armor). When I either equiped the UV arena ring OR used the UOP stats fix with the amulet equiped, I lost 15 defense (I am now at -30). So my guess is that the frostshield is calculated as being a part of my "base defense" so when the fix or ring is applied, it recalculates it and substacts 15 points? Maybe... I am not sure but it makes sense.

Problem is not solved tho! Any more idea? Could add +30 defense to the ring to counter the problem But it would be kind of a cheat !

update: even old saved games are affected! So it is (i think) a formula problem! But where?

Anyone?
Or any way to edit my armor factor via wrye bash or CS?

It's supreme magicka.. you probably experimented with the ini its your shield items check them you need to enable the fix in the ini do you understand?
You need to watch what you're doing and read more readme's!

Worked GREAT, thanks alot !
I would never had guessed it was SM doing this!

Thanks again!