Huh, I still think it sounds lame.

no bananas??? :swear:

That alone makes it worth it.



There'd be to many out cries over discrimination :shakehead:

Edit: Thats if it was gender specific anyways. Could be character specific, marry a smith get access to better weapons for example.

btw, I'm a husband and I do the cooking :celebration:

.. I plan on marrying a Khajiit. Now I feel awkward.

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My take on the CK is that it lets people add brilliant things that don't really fit in the game (like The Underground mod for Morrowind - fantastic, inventive, beautiful, crazy mod that had no place in the commercial game) and, yes, to add or adjust features to our own preference. But just because it's possible for modders to add or improve features doesn't mean it's ok for Bethesda to do a shallow and half-hearted job in the first place. Either do it well, or not at all.

Frankly, I think this feature would have worked much better, as it stands, if Bethesda had allowed us to hire household staff and mercenaries for the fetch and carry and combat stuff. Then do a few proper romances for the marriage stuff, or leave it out altogether.

Maybe I'm wrong and what they've done will work much better than it sounds. I really hope so.

"You've got some nimble fingers. What have you been getting them into?"

I agree, I tried really hard to save everyone in the game, but Jauffre was a lost cause despite my efforts.

Yeah, it's just an excuse to have a depth-less slave/companion. :shrug:

If they can buy weapons.... they can sell them too... dungeon crawlers rejoice... no more back and forward when weight capacity is reached... just get your companion to do it....

Bethesda :tes:

And take it off when your interested in following a new relationship...awww if marriages were this easy.... it would be funny though if they work settlements into it where your spouse get a percentage of your income.... then comes the Dark Brotherhood side quest... kill spouse retreive stolen goods... :celebration: know what I am saying......

As a mod-user, I kind of disagree... I want a game that will last me until the next game, and even if the developer team doesn't have enough time to add everything they want to the game, if they at least keep the "hooks" for more content (Not just expansions on additional content), then that grants them openings to come back to the game with depth-adding Expansion packs, and the community itself can come up with expansion packs of their own.

Without said hooks, it becomes much more difficult to mod things in.

Mods will certainly "flesh" this feature out.

I bet those modders will get to work on those sixual animations said to be missing...

Maybe there will be some deep stuff to the marriage system.

Like lets say you married someone who was already being courted by another NPC. You start a relationship and marry the person being courted and the courter becomes infuriated vowing to ruin your marriage. You can try to calm the person or just tell them to bugger off. Later on in game maybe they will try to force themselves on your spouse while you are away or maybe just outright attempt to kill them.


Or maybe another situation in which you marry the beautiful yet dubious person and later on in the marriage one day when you come home they are down to their skivvies with another person. then you can choose to kill the man outright or divorce your wife... 's head from her body.

The problem is that Bethesda have never been into the whole business of expandability, of putting in hooks to allow mods. Look at the UI in Oblivion. DarN did some wonderful work improving this, but he found (as I recall) that there were some menus and UI elements that just weren't modable through XML files. And it turned out that some of the developers working on the UI made their menus XML driven for their own convenience, but others didn't. And that was just fine by Bethesda because it was the finished product that mattered, not the ease of modding. Drivable vehicles in Fallout 3 were wanted by a lot of people - but the game simply didn't support them, nor were there any hooks to allow them.

From everything I've heard Bethesda have been very clear about their games - they are selling a game, not a game engine. They have no interest in helping people do things with the game that it wasn't designed for. If modders manage to find a way of doing it, well good for them, but it's not something Bethesda actively set out to enable. They never deliberately laid the groundwork for the brilliant Oblivion and Fallout Script Extender developers to use, and there's no guarantee that script extenders will even be possible with Skyrim.

So unless Bethesda put something into the game, there's absolutely no guarantee that modders will be able to do so.

Now with modders adding fleshed out romance NPCs, that ought to be fairly straightforward, as the game by definition is all about dialogue and NPC scheduling and behaviour - and for ease of generating their own content Bethesda have allowed for a lot of fine control and customisation. Even so, we don't even know if we'll be able to add lip-synching to NPCs for modder added dialogue. It was just about possible for Fallout 3, if you had a very early version of Oblivion as well, but it couldn't be done with the GECK. Skyrim is even further removed from Oblivion than Fallout is, and there's a chance that all mod-added NPCs will just remain expressionless and close-mouthed while talking. Not very good for a romance mod. Because of licensing issues you can be assured that Bethesda won't be releasing exporters for 3DS Max, and it might take a long while for people to study the new NIF files that come with Skyrim and update the NIFTools exporters for Blender - if it ever happens - so romance specific animations are unlikely in the short term and not assured even in the long term.

The improved companion features are nice - but they'd have been just as appropriate for household servants or mercenaries or any other companion. On their own they aren't any sort of justification for a weakly implemented marriage feature.

:lol:

That is the problem, a lot of people thinking relationships and marriages are 'separate' in life stories; Rather than realize that they 'add' to it.


People relate relationship systems to Fable, Dragon Age, and Mass Effect because they are actual examples that the reader can 'understand' without needing to *spoil* the game.


I will just avoid playing the game. I wish there is a statement on how much story and depth there is to relationships, plutonic and romantic. That way I can decide one whether I should get this game or continue waiting for Mass Effect 3.


You may be happy and that is great for you. However I wish to support game makers who actually do understand that romance and relationships add to a story. Yes a good story is much more than 'just' that. If Bethesda does not want my money? I would rather they just say so.

I think this is something that should have a little more light on it.

Gotta start somewhere. Hopefully they add things like the amulet for relationships has cultural significance and stuff like that. It sounds like a good start, and hopefully it can be fleshed out more in subsequent Bethesda titles.

Yup!
I don't think it will spoil the whole game if they were to tell us a bit more info about this.
Buying weapons for you, collecting food, fighting with you...It sounds really awesome.

I wonder how your spouse will call you...
And how exactly does that Amulet that I have heard of work!

Either way, can't wait to get married to my Orc hubby.

Ahh... Our beloved Ahnassi! I miss her. :wub:

Sounds like a glorified combination between Dog meat from FO3 and the companion system in NV.


Don't see much interesting here. I guess I'll probably try it but it doesn't sound particularly exciting.

in a sense, but it gives purpose to marrying someone. It's more than just a 'gimmick'.

i see what you did there, :cookie: