So I got to thinking about Nerevar (original, not the one that slays Mr. Ur ) and I remember that he "fell" in red mountain. Now ... was his corpse buried? Or, more likely, cremated and the ashes places somewhere? Is there a tomb?

He fell in Red Mountain the same way Julius Caesar fell in Rome. As in, died there. His corpse was turned into a Bonewalker, which was a great honor.

I'm not contradicting you, but where did you hear that he was a zombie? I assume you're using that meaning of "Bonewalker" instead of saying Nerevar was incorporated into the Ghostfence or something.

An MK reveal, and it's just too good not to be true. The stylised depiction of Nerevar on his shrine represents him in his bonewalke form. If you look closely you can see the metal bolts.

Is there a high res version of all the tapestries somewhere?

Not tapestries. Stele? The altars scattered around. The best we got is http://www.imperial-library.info/gallery/mw_TAoM_p23.jpg, where you can see the rather skeletal figure, and where the arms have knob-like protrusions.

A strange image, especially since it's legless. I wonder why he would have been made a Bonewalker. I don't see the bolts myself, just the armor, though I guess it's possible.

I'm glad that's been explained to me now; it always confused me that he was depicted as a skeleton.

Hm...never knew that.

Zombie-Nerevar for the win, man!

Now I want there to be a mod where you get to find his tomb and fight a zombified Nerevar. Or if you're the Nerevarine you can just stroll in and he won't attack you. T'would be cool.

Lyke, dat wud be da awesumz! U fight Nerevar as a bonewalker and den u pwnz him! l337!



....Um, no. Fighting Nerevar would NOT be cool. Why dishonor the man like that? Seriously, bonewalkers aren't just there to fulfill a quota on "number of monsters for the player to kill." They have a very honorable purpose, and including one in a mod just to kill it, especially one as renowned as Nerevar, is just stupid in my opinion.

I've forgotten what the purpose of Bonewalkers is. Only to be a guardian?

It seems wrong to have used Nerevar's body this way. This is necromancy. I don't care that his spirit was elsewhere.

On the surface, yes; they're intended to be guardians. But the thing is, they volunteered in life to become bonewalkers upon their death so that they may guard the family tomb from intruders. Because they volunteered to devote the entirety of their afterlife to the protection of the family's dead, they are regarded with great honor amongst the living, as it's seen as an act of selflessness and devotion to the family.

I've already role-played Morrowind to death. I like the lore of Morrowind, but I don't treat it as anything that special in-game anymore. And it wouldn't be simply to kill Nerevar. If you were a looter/dungeon plunderer or what-have-you, the Nerevar bonewalker would attack. IE: if you were in the tomb before you became Nerevar of the 4 ashlander tribes and hortator and whatnot. Or it could take a different twist on it. It'd also be cool if you were a member of the Tribunal temple and Nerevar's tomb was a holy pilgramage site.

To each his own, I guess. I just don't think killing that Nerevar would be very cool. The pilgrimage idea is better, but I think they should leave Nerevar as he is; a [censored] general who got murdered by the Tribunal and then got turned into a bonewalker with a mohawk.

Eh, I probably wouldn't kill him myself. But I always like the options. Sometimes I'll kill Vivec for the fun of it. I don't save, but it's an interesting fight, especially with mods that make him tougher. And you have to admit that it'd be interesting to see the Nerevar bonewalker if he looked like he does in those tapestries.

Aren't there some cases, where families will use the bodies of the failures and bad eggs of the family to sorta..redeem themselves in death, where they failed in life? Also, was it stated that Nerevar did wish to be an undead guardian, or the the Tribunal just went to the people of go "Nerevar was betrayed, but he slew the enemy, yay! Now, this is not too know, but he told me he wanted to be a bonewalker should he died and continue serving as a guardian, yay!", or something like that?

It's a political device. Make Nerevar seem like a martyr instead of seeming like the Tribunal killed him.

That's what I was going with, thanks

I wonder if he could use the infamous Dread Curse.

A bit of clarification here?are bonewalkers merely flesh and bone reanimated, or are they the person's entire being reanimated (in other words, a body bound to service, or a soul and body bound to service)? If it were the former, it doesn't seem like any kind of great sacrifice that would merit honor, and were it the latter, wouldn't that mean the whole Nerevarine prophecy was false from the beginning, as Nerevar's soul had never left the world, but was instead still bound to service upon it, preventing any sort of recycling, be it by Azura or mere chance? It certainly could have just been Azura's manipulation of events and appearances, but Vivec seemed to acknowledge the player as the Nerevarine, which would be a bit odd if he knew it to be impossible.

"Why did I try to kill you? Because you threatened the faith of my followers, and I needed their faith to hold back the darkness. And I thought you were my enemy -- a pawn of the subtle Daedra Lord Azura, or a pawn of Emperor Uriel Septim, or a simple fraud -- perhaps a Hero -- but not much of one if my faithful could destroy you. Now circumstances are altered. I need you, and you need me."

I suppose, though, that he could have just been acknowledging a need for one such as the player, which would explain things. Of course, come to find out, my conception of the bonewalker will most likely be wrong, making the whole point meaningless. But we must learn somehow, and by mistake is as good as any other method so long as it doesn't kill you.

Do we know what happened to the body of Nerevar-Bonewalker?

Interred into the Indoril family hearth?

How do we know the PC is nerevar, and not just an adventurer looking to become a hero?

One of ur's dialouge choices was that you not the nerevarine and just an adventurer of your own free will.

To answer your question, it all depends on the player, that's the great thing about the TES games, you always get the final word. However, we can assume that you're the Nerevarine because:

-You can wear Moon-and-Star
-Azura says so
-Vivec thinks so
-Lots of other people think so.

However, if you so choose the dialogue option stating that you are an adventurer unsure of the destiny thrust upon you (or something similar), it could all come down to the player character not being sure of it all, still being sceptic and perhaps a bit daunted by the fact that HE/SHE, an unknown and miscellaneous prisoner, is really Nerevar reincarnated. If you were in his/her shoes, how would you feel with being told that, eh ?

In any case, the best way to brush up on your knowledge of bonewalkers is to read the "Corpse Preparation" books, they tell about all the undead, I believe, including how to create your own bonewalker, and I'm not talking about simply casting a spell.

Hope that clarifies some points ^^ !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1IRxTN-_kU


I hope this proves my point