That's strange, given that one of them was having an affair with the duke's daughter.

just cause they like to spar with spears doesnt mean they dont like to spear tacos once in a while

Not if they're actually G*y.

Either way, I can't think of any Armigers that are actually in Vivec City.

Edit: There's gotta be a better way to discuss this.

aw come on, youre not actually going to argue the details of an informal design note are you? besides, lots of homosixual guys have been known to sleep with chicks (to cover up said homosixuality, etc.)

But he didn't want his affair to be discovered in the first place. Hence the blackmail when that Telvanni got her hand on the glove.

Things aren't all black and white. It's called nuance and it shouldn't need explaining.

Words can hide shades of meaning and oceans of interpretation between them. G*y Samurai, Sacred Band of Thebes, the Happy Squires. Between all those words there is a big red arrow pointing at a door in Vegas with bright neon-lights called Club Homo Eroticism. The text under the door reads: "You don't have to be g*y to work here but it helps".

I don't think Ayem would hold the institution of marriage very seriously.

But at the same time, their "Admire" responses for each gender are the same as everyone else; heterosixual. Then again, it was also the way for Crassius Curio, but he more than made up for it.

There's a fairly simple solution for this.

Perhaps all of the original Armigers were homosixual men, but over the long years the originals died out and some of their replacements were heterosixuals and bisixuals of either gender.

And perhaps some of the most elite who personally guard and escort Vivec are still homosixual men, whom I suspect are his chosen favorite.

But as far as we have seen, at least at the current moment, Vivec doesn't have any bodyguards, and the Ordinators take care of everything in the city.

But either way, "love" doesn't always refer to "six".

Game mechanic, mostly. Also, it's possible these "bodyguards" stay at the Ghost Gate most of the time and train, and mostly accompanied Vivec during his campaigns to bathe in the heart chamber.



If you own Morrowind for the PC, open up the CS and refer to the flavor comment of the Bouyant Armiger character model.

Bouyant Armiger "character model"?

It might also me wise to remind everyone that Vivec isn't totally a male. Now, I'm sure there is a little guy-on-guy action going on downstairs with the whole Bouyant Armigar thing, but it's not totally homo-erotic, considering Vivec is both male and female, and therefore neither. In other words... Muatra might have a sister...

And I don't mean internet-transgender-cheap-porm-type-stuff either. Nor do I mean ambiguous genetalia, like what happens in our world when the hormone signals don't happen properly in the 5th month of fetal development. I mean truly male and female in equal parts.

Oh, and CP... I'm pretty sure they mean love as a verb in the physical sense and not a noun. Vehk's a naughty naughty girl/boy. Mephala's his anticipation, and one of her/his (Meph's a hermie too) is six. Vivec is a god of six. You don't just love a six god with your heart... You do it with your whole body. Seriously, though, in this respect it would be a very extreme and sincere form of worship.

Old Mephie is neither. In the anticipations it is Ayems female to Boethias male, Seths male to Azuras female and Vehks hermaphrodite to Mephalas androgyny.

TIL states quite clearly that Mephala has both genetalia.

http://www.imperial-library.info/book_daedra/index1.shtml

Now, they could be wrong, but I trust 'em.

Don't.

But anyway yea I paraphrased the anticipations wrongly, there was no opposition of sixes with Vivec and Mephala.

LOL. Seriously, I trust them (you guys) as much as is possible for a non-in-game source.

Yeah. As opposed to the named characters in that faction in the CS, there's a generic "Bouyant Armiger" type character, the nameless ones who walk about the Ghost Gate. If I recall correctly there's a very specific reference to homosixuality in their flavor comment.

It wouldn't be too hard to simply switch it around. There are groups with unique persuasion dialogue.


I didn't see anything suggestive of homosixuality.


Just about everybody in Morrowind loves Vivec and Almalexia. And not in the sixual way. And we can be sure because they lock themselves up and are only seen by a few people.

Um, I thought the question was whether or not the Nerevar and Almalexia had formerly been married, and, after destroying Sotha Sil, would remarry?

Yes and no.

Almalexia and the Nerevarine were once married but weren't going to remarry. You know the remaining details as to why the Tribunal failed, and all remain as human as the day they were born. (Besides Vivec...who's some wierd dude-chick.)

If you happen to stumble on all 36 sermons of Vivec, you'll know the complete and quite confusing story.

Got that?
Ya dig?

Good...

They were not human, they were gods. In the process, Vivec changed his timeline so that he existed as a god before his mortal birth; at least, this seems to be the consensus over the years.

But the Sermons have historical inaccuracies, such as Vivec doing all of his god-things while Nerevar was alive.

Vivec is a poet. Trust not the words of a poet, as he is born to seduce. Yet for poetry to sieze the heart, it must ring with the chimes of truth. ~ http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/sotha_sil.shtml

Nuance.

Anyway, the two of you should read the Sermons. In there Ayem only had "her husband-state, a flickering image that was channeled to her ever-changing female need." In reallity Almelexia and Nerevar http://www.imperial-library.info/tsomw/tb_16.shtml. The Swords of Trueflame and Hopesfire were gifts from Dumac for their wedding.



That is the one thing that simply doesn't hold as anything other then justification of a divine position. If it was possible to change the past, we would not know about the mortal forms of the Tribunal, Manimacro or Talos.

Actually, there's hardly any historical records that say otherwise. It's only by intuition that we say that, as the dates don't match up.

But at the same time, a lot of Temple writings are not completely true, if any are completely. But we know that Vivec must have been a mortal while Nerevar was alive, because mortal Vivec "stole the godhood and murdered the hortator" or something like that. And at the same time, I don't think the Sermons ever mentioned Vivec becoming a god through the use of Kagrenac's Tools.

But off-topic, for dates, http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/rislav_righteous.shtmlstates that Nerevar and Dumac were present at the coronation of the Emperor of the Alessian Empire in 1E 461 for diplomatic reasons.

Edit: Added link.