In the Tribunal expansion for Morrowind, I recall something about Almelexia saying that she was once married to Nerevar, and that she planned to marry the Nerevarine too. Just wondering, does she say the same things if you're playing as a woman? And if what I said above is incorrect, does the game ever mention Nerevar's gender?

you have it the wrong way around: Alma was married to Nerevar, who we know was a man (and a leader of the chimer, among other things). im pretty sure she never says that she will marry the nerevarine, who can be either gender.

I could be wrong... but I think all of the Trubunal were bi(in a way). So there would not be much problems there when it comes to merriage.

Dont think she was going to merry Nerevarine though. Rather, let Clockwork City kill him(or her).

Yes, I know that, but I believe she mentioned marrying the incarnate after he "saved" Mournhold from the The Mad God.

Although, probably just my crumby memory.

About them being bi, I wouldn't be surprised. Of the little sixual information about the gods, it would make sense that they see nothing "wrong" in that area. (Just look what Vivec did to Azura!)

There was some definite innuendo about being a past lover. The Imperial Library has the story line so you could look it up.

As for the six, we're talking about the Chimer/Dunmer here. >:)

Vivec had his army of lovers, the Bouyant Amigers, Almelexia has Her Hands and I'm sure she uses those to touch herself. Then the Sermons mention Sotha Sil dividing himself in two to make love and half a couple of other things.

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Owh and Barenziah.

Yeah Berenziah was promiscuous. But when you live twice as long as every one else your bound to get around. Right?:D

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Ok, what is it with the Tribunal and weird six?

Honestly, I feel glad the Nerevarine didn't have to marry Almalexia, she was crazy in the Sermons, and she's even crazier now...

http://www.imperial-library.info/tsomw/tb_17.shtml is what Almalexia says to you at the end of the TB MQ:


Anyone still thinks that she was going to merry Nerevarine?

This thread is about what she SAYS, not what's true. I'm not talking about what she was really planning. You don't find out that she betrays you until the very end, but before that, I think I recall her asking you to marry her.

But yeah, after some of these posts, it would appear that the Tribunal aren't what many would call "normal".

Anyways, I'd still like to see some confirmation if Almalexia attempts to go homo with the PC if it's a girl.

I love how this topic turned into the six life of the gods.

This is what Alamalexia said to my female character before sending her to the Clockword City:



This freaked my character out. She didn't WANT to take a place at Almalexia's side.

What can you say? The Lore dwellers are kinky

Actually Nereverine is just the reincarntion of Nerevar, so it is not a matter og gender. Since the soul itself does not have a gender, and Almalexia was in love with Nerevar. Besides there is no limit what the Tribual can do, changeing gender on people is a everydad misc stuff thingy.

Yes, she was in love with the Soul of Nerevar, that's why she trapped that soul in a huge Clockwork city with swinging axes, a huge rotating thingy, and a giant killer robot.

Fixed.

Ok, well, I guess Forest Stalker's post answers the original question... That quote is probably where you go the idea from. Seems Almalexia says the same thing to both male and femal characters, and what she says COULD be interepreted as her planning on getting merried to Nerevarine.

But again, even though she SAYS something that COULD be interepreted as getting merried to Nerevarine... I still say it was a lie all along. But even if she was planning to, she pchanged her mind at some point and turned on Nerevarine.

Yep, that one does sound about right.

I assume that she was planning it the entire time, probably soon (maybe even long before) the PC entered Morrowind.

But before she turned into a crazy [censored], I think she actually wanted to be united with her long-lost husband.

The way I look at the sixual relations in the Dunmer tradition is similiar to that of the classical world. There is no term such as there is today for a homosixual in ancient Greek or Latin. It was common practice for men to have wives, concubines and to bugger their 'students' as it were. As usual it is a simple cultural divide which our modernity prevents us from understanding.

It could also simply be that Almalexia publically present Herself as above this kind of relationship with what is basically still a mortal, even Corprus-enhanced and Nerevar reborn, and that "by her side" she means as a close and trusted advisor rather than a mate (even if she already plan to betray the player character, charge him with the disparition of Sotha Sil and make him a martyr). Then gender is irrelevant.

To quote what she says about Salas Valor, the crazy Hand she ask you to remove :

Homosixuality and hedonism were not viewed with disdain by the general populace of the pre-Christian world. The idea of homosixuality being morally wrong has its origins in Abrahamic religions. Many religions that predated the spread of Christianity had no problems with it. Some religions even had ritualistic orgies. Now, I'm not saying anything against Christianity. I'm american (a predominantly christian country) and was raised Protestant-Christian. I'm simply commenting on social morals and how religions affect them.

So... FYI (especially to the moderators) I didn't knock anyone's religion or sixual preference.

Now, that being said, think about the social morals of the dunmer. Their religion, pre-tribunal, revolved around several daedra, a few of which had sixually oriented spheres. One in particular, Mephala, became known as the anticipation of Vivec. Admittedly, the tribunal themselves were chimeri in religion (prior to their ascension) much in the same way that Christ was technically a Jew. So, all of this paints a rather distinct picture of the way promiscuity is handled by the dunmer. I'm sure the Tribunal were very sixual beings.

Where was this suggested? I never heard or read anything like this.

I don't have time right now to look it up, but it's been said in the forums (including by MK) that the Armigers are both samurai and Vivec's lovers. I think it was also mentioned in one of the Sermons -- I'll check:

"But before he could even get within sword-span of the monster, a trio of lower houses had trapped Horde Mountain in a net of doubtful doctrine. When they saw their lord, the Velothi cheered.


'We are happy to serve you and win!' they said.

Vivec smiled at those brave souls around him and summoned celebration demons to cleave unto the victors. There was a great display of love and duty around the netted monster, and Vivec was at the center with a headdress made of mating bones. He laughed and told mystical jokes and made the heads of the three houses marry and become a new order.


'You shall forever be now my Buoyant Armigers,' he said." (Sermon 24).

But a lot of people love Vivec, but it's the kind of love that people have for their diety.

Syronj:

Looks like the original thread has been purged. They were called G*y Samurai in the design notes.

Thanks, Proweler. Like me, you remember the earlier discussions of this. The consensus was also that the Ordinators, being Almalexia's, were in Vivec City as much to spy on Vivec and control him as anything, while the Armigers were Vivec's warriors.

Reminds me a little of the last Chinese emperor, who was a virtual prisoner within the Forbidden City.