i think it all looks pritty cool but dont get exited about it, it could all change

I do as well. The "female armor" looks mostly gold and silver, with a small amount of aged-copper-green highlights. Doesn't seem quite as "glass" as previous versions.

So, on the theory that the dull/corroded green is a highlight on Elven equipment, that then makes all those "glass" weapons.... Elven.


We'll see.

If that's only the Glass weapon, I can't even imagine how godly the armor would look like.

I think the strongest evidence that it's not Elven is the pauldrons, because we don't have any reason to believe yet that there are going to be gender-specific armor sets, and if you look at the link in my sig you can see there's no way the pauldrons (or the helmet) are supposed to be the same set for different genders. But yeah I'm sure we'll have a better idea in a few months when we have some more screenies to look at. Anyway I would not mind a change from the radioactive neon green glass to a more subtle, light jade-like glass design.


Yeah, it probably will not look quite like that concept art especially since the elven that we've seen is a bit different from the concept. I'm just glad to see they might be abandoning Oblivion's glass plate design in favor of something more like Morrowind's glass armor idea, which was basically "a base of rare, light metals, studded with glass shards placed strategically to absorb blows from weapons." I would like to see a few more glass pieces on the final set though.



Anyway I don't think speculating about the armor design is any worse than speculating about vampires/werewolves/liches, waterfalls/river rapids, backwards windmills, spellcrafting, prostitution, race designs, etc

Why does everyone forget about the forge system in skyrim?...like it couldnt be glass+elven....problem solved..lets all wait til e3 when they show off the forge system

I would take a guess that the sword is actually a result of the forge system, which I hope will allow customization. Example: pick a few templates (handle #3, blade #5, handguard #1) and choose the material. that would be AWESOME

Hopefully we'll get a system as customizable as this

I'm not gonna hope for it though, because the gamesas tour video shows a whiteboard that suggests a pretty much standard recipe-based system.

Funny thing about this debate is that this concept art might not even be used in the game.

Ok, well I'm back, and I see two things here.

1. This is not a debate, this is MY OP theory that you can agree with OR come up with your own theory. I personally like the new idea that there could be a light and heavy version, or that they are indeed modified by the forge system. Whatever the case may be, I am sure those are not the same armors.(Take a look at http://voidedchaos.net/armors.jpg found by deathcoffee)

2. While I did discuss my theory to a huge extent in the OP, I also stated several other important questions multiple times in this thread concerning other artwork, armor, weapons, and ideas.


So I ask you, please, don't forget this is about all the new armor possibilties, not just the 2 most controversial. If someone would like to discuss the questions I posed about fur, steel, and leather pics we have, quote my previous post on this thread.

Thank you.

Not to irritate any1 but maybe they decided to integrate the two armors or better yet when forging armor we will be able to do so, I only say this because thats exactly how those pieces appear to me as a combination of the 2 types.

I doubt the forge system is anything more than. Mine/Collect Iron. Go to town. Find Forge. Click Forge to open menu. Select Iron Shortsword (3 Iron). Voila, weapon.

But, maybe it does allow customization, but again. I doubt it.

Bump

Since the point of this thread was a discussion, let me repost some good questions to get to something new.

1. Why the color variation in the Elven armor from screen to screen? Clearly it is designed to be golden, yet appears so different in the ice wraith screen. Just different lighting? Alternate armor colors? Or armor that changes color based on environment? (all "golden" Elven armor screens are indoors, but the one outside is very different)

2. Is http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/media/screenshots/stealth-kill/ the new leather armor? Perhaps with an iron pauldron??

3. And does this http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim/media/conceptart/bear-encounter/ depict the new Fur armor? Or the new Steel helmet, Steel sword, and Steel 1h axe? Or is any of that simply clothing?

Feel free to speculate.

1. Just a theory, but I figured Id throw it out there. Perhaps the color variation is 'magical' effects applied to the armor like in OB and MW? That probably isnt the case but its possible.

2. Im not sure if that is leather armor or not. It may just be a non-obtainable 'goblin' style armor that one of the enemies has. Or maybe even another type all together.

3. Fur......perhaps. May be a new type of armor that isnt necessarily fur but is an animal skin based armor. I like the sword and staff but its hard to determine what is what.

I'm still betting on that glass armor. It's simply too different from the Elven one we've seen to be a female variant. For the most part, male and female armor in Oblivion was more or less the same, just with female being a little more form fitted.

My guess for the style of glass armor is Falmer. They're all gone, but hell, so are the Dwemer and Ayleids.




Don't forget the bonemold in Morrowind and brass for Dwemer armor.

Thank you. It's like a miracle. :foodndrink:

Anyway, if no.3 shows some fur armor and new steel gear, I am already impressed with the improvement. Because based on the common armor shown for the Dovahkiin, he seems to be wearing the new Iron helm(?). So perhaps that concept with the helm with Thor-like feather design is the new Steel helm....and the sword looks awesome. And that type of fur gear/clothing would be great. However, based on some other pics, it may not be the actual new Fur armor design.

I was thinking that maybe that leather armor in no.2 is specially studded as well. Smithing bonus? I'm betting it's wearable. But then again, based on http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4lrm97dBqNo/TUFlgowfRWI/AAAAAAAAAYk/wvKXZBaZYPA/s1600/artofskyrim_007_banditfem.jpg I think we may actually see quite a few NPC exclusive "outfits". And if bandits have their own gear, I can imagine EVERYONE will be grateful to not see bandits running around in Glass and Daedric armor ala Oblivion :biggrin:

As for no.1, I have no idea. I'm guessing lighting, but who knows?

It would be so awesome if there was a set of Bonemold. And thinking about, it wouldn't be that weird. The Dumner likely brought much of it with them when fleeing Morrowind.

I just dunno if its glass though.....Honestly its probably more that I hope you are wrong than I actually disagree.....But it just doesnt look very glass-ish to me. It looks like metal tinted green. I dont really see any glass like the style in MW or OB. Not to mention it just isnt very green either. That would be dissapointing.

Its always possible that it is a new or different type of armor as well. We really have no idea though.

The concept with the mammoth is great though. It seems like a perfect embodiment of Skyrim to me.....Cold, Rough, unforgiving....deadly. I cant wait to slay a mammoth. Even if Im naked while doing it. Armor is just what I use to make my character look cool.

That's fine by me, man. I never expected anyone to believe my word as law. Hence the disclaimer. B)

I'm just saying, I see evidence, I come up with an idea. I mean, that mace is a dead ringer....

But hey, one thing I guarantee everyone will agree with is this: based on http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4lrm97dBqNo/TUFlgowfRWI/AAAAAAAAAYk/wvKXZBaZYPA/s1600/artofskyrim_007_banditfem.jpg, I think we may actually see quite a few NPC exclusive "outfits". And if bandits have their own gear, I can imagine EVERYONE will be grateful to not see bandits running around in Glass and Daedric armor ala Oblivion. :biggrin:

This is a great idea, it would be nice to see something like this implemented into the next ES game at least. and also a way to wear clothing and chainmail beneath armour, via some sort of layerd dressing system in the menu. this would allow the player more customization towards how they want to look.

No more bandits in Daedric? :dead:

LOL, you would, huh?

I mean.... Why yes, itsgrady, of course we shouldn't see Daedric armor-wearing bandits! That was just completely ridiculous in OB, and now that they will have special bandit gear, there will be that much more Daedric armor left lying around for us. Everybody wins.

Now, my minions, attack this topic like the fiends you are!!!!

I mean.... Discuss. B)

Sorry. You're right. Lets get outta here. :flamethrower: :bolt:

Honestly I dont know what that freakin armor is. I only hope its not glass, because Id hoped glass would be....cooler looking than that.

I'd be all armor design being different then material. What's elven armor even made of?

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