New Bandwidth Cap

Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 4:06 pm

so from all your responses it seems its not much to worry about. sweet. I dont download movies or anything. the main thing i do is stream. Netflix and gaming are mainly all i do. internet wise.
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Makenna Nomad
 
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:26 pm

Gaming doesn't use nearly as much as people seem to think.

Videos and Torrents do. I'm not sure how much netflix really will use, and it will vary greatly. It is the people who constantly are running torrents that they are going after.

We have 4 houses sharing a DSL line. I game heavily, use netflix, torrents(small amounts) and what not. We have something like 10 computers on the network and a myriad of other devices. I think we average 50gb usage a month.
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:31 pm

(curse word) (curse word) (curse word) (curse word) (curse word) (curse word)svcking (curse word) mother(curse word)!!!
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:55 am

150gigs should be fine, even if you watch a movie every week and game 24/7. I think Reach and Black Ops take anywhere from ~15-30mb per hour depending on the games youre playing, obviously more in a 14+ player game with everyone talking constantly. If youre on the PC its pretty easy to monitor bandwidth usage though.

Movies are around what, 5-7gigs for DVD quality(720p). Not sure about Bluerays 1080p. Ive never used Netflix so Idk if it just downloads the entire DVD, menus and all, or you stream the main movie(can cut the size of the file down to near half if you get rid of all the extras and unneeded language packs).

Maybe someone can start an online petition for MS or Sony to provide a bandwidth usage monitor for consoles or something, since this would be the time for them to do it.

this is how things are generally done elsewhere. your not alone. gameplay bandwidth is negligible voip is higher and we recommend a 2gb dsl service for our customers knowing full well they wont even get close to it. the only people hurt by this are pirates.

in Auatralia, passing the cap imposes speed restrictions on your connection from 25Mb down to 64Kb


3 people in this house play online, and well easily use 10-15gigs a month on JUST video gaming. Especially MMOs sometimes with their 1-2gig patches every few months. Not to mention most console DLC hovers in the 500mb-1.5gig range. And as previously mentioned, many people purchase games digitally over Steam. 2gigs a month is for people who only web browse and use messengers.
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:11 pm

Well I get my internet, dsl through a locally own kentucky provider. I have no bandwith cap lets hope it stays that way.
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:12 am

My cap is 90 GB.

Any tech savy people here know how easy it is to blow that. With usenet I can go over 500 gigs a month easy.
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:33 am

Guys no offence - But Are you all from USA or something?

This has been happening in the UK for years now - since NTL, Telewest, Bulldog and now Virgin.


Theres 2 types of way providers are going to "svcker" you guys now.

1 - They will now give out "proportionate Bandwidth caps"...Meaning - Depending on what kind of "Package" you pay for, Example - You pay for 10mb - You get 150GB PER month! IF you go over thus cap, You will get "CUT OFF" - or have an extra charge on top to get the connection back on again.

OR

2 - They will tell you that you have an "unlimited usage" which is total [censored] - Even though they Dont CUT you off.....They will now "Limit" your speed, Example - Im with Virgin, Who used to be an AMAZING ISP - They gave you unlimited cap, with pure speeds upto 50MB constant. But now! - IF you download over 750mb with-in "peak hours" which is basically from 11am too 9pm - Sometimes 4pm - 10pm.... IF you download over 750mb anytime during these times, They will cut your internet speed. So your 20mb now becomes 1mb, 10mb becomes 512kb and so on.

They claim its "unlimited" only because they dont CUT you off completely.

This will be happening to ALL providers nowa days. So be prepared!.

And P.S - "Who would download over 250gb a month anyways..." - Me, Easily. And most other Heavy downloaders
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:48 pm

Guys no offence - But Are you all from USA or something?

This has been happening in the UK for years now - since NTL, Telewest, Bulldog and now Virgin.


Theres 2 types of way providers are going to "svcker" you guys now.

1 - They will now give out "proportionate Bandwidth caps"...Meaning - Depending on what kind of "Package" you pay for, Example - You pay for 10mb - You get 150GB PER month! IF you go over thus cap, You will get "CUT OFF" - or have an extra charge on top to get the connection back on again.

OR

2 - They will tell you that you have an "unlimited usage" which is total [censored] - Even though they Dont CUT you off.....They will now "Limit" your speed, Example - Im with Virgin, Who used to be an AMAZING ISP - They gave you unlimited cap, with pure speeds upto 50MB constant. But now! - IF you download over 750mb with-in "peak hours" which is basically from 11am too 9pm - Sometimes 4pm - 10pm.... IF you download over 750mb anytime during these times, They will cut your internet speed. So your 20mb now becomes 1mb, 10mb becomes 512kb and so on.

They claim its "unlimited" only because they dont CUT you off completely.

This will be happening to ALL providers nowa days. So be prepared!.

And P.S - "Who would download over 250gb a month anyways..." - Me, Easily. And most other Heavy downloaders


Im sorry for you, but I still dont want my net capped. Its like saying "You think your plague is bad? Try some of this Black Death stuff we've had for years."

No one really likes the "My country has [censored] service, so it is ok for yours to have it." Im not saying that you are saying that, but it seemed like a good time to put this up.
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:50 pm

We are trying to fight this where i live. Alot of people are pissed off about this. From what i have heard some stores are getting involved and trying to stop this from happening.
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:12 am

So for those of you who dont know, There's a limit on the amount of data you can download/upload via streaming and stuff, depending on your internet provider.
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/93341/att-rolls-out-150-250gb-monthly-data-caps/
Just check out the link^^^^^

Comcast also plans on doing this and i believe are ALREADY doing it. Whereas ATT users' data cap started yesterday.

Watching netflix svcks a lot of data, but the number one data svcker is Playing multiplayer games online. Especially if your hosting a match.
I know its not necessarily a BRINK topic but it does effect us BRINK players who want to play online.


You do realize that compared to Netflix online gaming uses next to no bandwidth, right? I have never seen a game go beyond 12 KB/s up or down. That's going to take a ton of time to even hit a 1 GB cap with.

Thing is, in my house theres always someone here. If im not at work im usually home either watching netflix or playing online on my ps3. Then theres my cousin who does the exact same thing. and then his fiance who doesnt work, who watches netflix 24/7 and in between plays pandora. data usage in this house has got to be insane. theres never someone NOT using something. hardly ever.


Streaming music services also have a very small footprint compared to a service like Netflix.
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:30 pm

Yawn, so many people here are misinformed. No, torrenters are not the #1 priority of this bandwidth cap. While there are hundreds of reasons, this is easily the main one:

Isp providers are always also cable and phone providers. The problem here is that many people are filling their cable and telephone needs with the internet. Hulu, netflix, youtube, and many other free/legal services mean that most people can watch their favorite shows while only paying for a basic cable package. Phone lines are easily replaced with skype and other VOIPs. Instead of improving their own services to stay competitive, they would rather just cripple their competition. Really lame move, but it is what it is.
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:35 pm

You do realize that compared to Netflix online gaming uses next to no bandwidth, right? I have never seen a game go beyond 12 KB/s up or down. That's going to take a ton of time to even hit a 1 GB cap with.


o.O Ill use 5-10gigs a month all by myself on just WoW and raiding depending on how slow work is, easily. Id use the 1gig up in under a week with just the gaming I do. Also with WoW a lot of guilds like to just chat in Vent even if were not raiding. And Black Ops uses far more than most MMOs per hour.

Granted my free time is mostly gaming, and thats still not near what watching a movie every day would use.
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:02 am

Yawn, so many people here are misinformed. No, torrenters are not the #1 priority of this bandwidth cap. While there are hundreds of reasons, this is easily the main one:

[b]Isp providers are always also cable and phone providers.[/b] The problem here is that many people are filling their cable and telephone needs with the internet. Hulu, netflix, youtube, and many other free/legal services mean that most people can watch their favorite shows while only paying for a basic cable package. Phone lines are easily replaced with skype and other VOIPs. Instead of improving their own services to stay competitive, they would rather just cripple their competition. Really lame move, but it is what it is.


Wait sir I think you dropped your monocle and whipping cane...

This seems totally believable, but it's one of those things that cant really be proven.
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:27 pm

o.O Ill use 5-10gigs a month all by myself on just WoW and raiding depending on how slow work is, easily. Id use the 1gig up in under a week with just the gaming I do. Also with WoW a lot of guilds like to just chat in Vent even if were not raiding. And Black Ops uses far more than most MMOs per hour.

Granted my free time is mostly gaming, and thats still not near what watching a movie every day would use.


It seems very unlikely you actually use that much from playing WoW and vent, though we can't really verify it either way. I've never played WoW so I have never seen how much it uses in terms of in/out but I can assure you that Vent takes next to no bandwidth. You could just be playing a metric [censored]ton though.

Just from testing it quick vent uploads at a liberal estimate of 10 KB/s. I've also never seen it go past 15 KB/s download in a packed channel.

How many hours do you play a week? :confused:
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:39 am

I've been dealing with a 10 gig verison card for a long time at home. My bro has an AT&T conection and this 250 craps piled in on him as well. I doubt he'll hit it and he streams / youtube / online games a LOT.

To give a good example i play call of duty almost every day (or some other FPS etc: ) In one month of doing whatever it is i do. I consume anywhere from 9-13 gigs. (You do NOT want to see the bill as verizon charges 10 dollars per GIG over the limit) (seriouisly [censored] THEM) Moving on.

This is not going to be a huge surprise in the information age especially to anyone already working IT. However i guarantee this will somehow raise our costs of living. *Does the please dont find a way to tax air dance*
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:35 pm

Anyone else thinking about the "Overlogging" south park episode? "Time to head out Californy way...."

but seriously 150GB should be plenty, if not pay extra or go without /shrug
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:50 am

LOL i get unlimited usage bandwidth, its' mint
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:34 am

HA yanks got stiffed! Joke, that svcks guys. Fight the powah maybe?
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:42 pm

Good thing I have cablevision one of few who don't have caps nor throttle limits.
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:27 am

glad my isp doesnt have this, sux for those who's gonna get stiffed with this :shakehead:
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:23 pm

HA yanks got stiffed! Joke, that svcks guys. Fight the powah maybe?

you like....a resistance? :P
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:45 am

I am not very smart when it comes to technology, but why is there a cap? I lived in South Korea and Japan for about a year each as an exchange student and taught elementary english to students there. In S.Korea, I used SK telecom as my internet provider for 20dollars a month and the download speed was ridiculously fast and there was no such thing as a cap. Same with Japan, the place I resided in used Hirajiku Fiber Optics line and the download/upload speed was extremely fast with no cap.

I don't understand it. I paid less OUTSIDE the U.S. and received much faster speeds and there was no such thing as a cap. Sigh..
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:07 pm

I don't have a cap, so this fortuataely does not affect me.
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Post » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:25 pm

I am not very smart when it comes to technology, but why is there a cap? I lived in South Korea and Japan for about a year each as an exchange student and taught elementary english to students there. In S.Korea, I used SK telecom as my internet provider for 20dollars a month and the download speed was ridiculously fast and there was no such thing as a cap. Same with Japan, the place I resided in used Hirajiku Fiber Optics line and the download/upload speed was extremely fast with no cap.

I don't understand it. I paid less OUTSIDE the U.S. and received much faster speeds and there was no such thing as a cap. Sigh..

Pretty sure Japan has the fastest/best internet in the entire world. S. Korea probably isn't far behind.

I think it's just an ISP's way of making money: you pay less, you get a lower cap and thus less internet allowance.

And for gods sake people, stop crying. I have a very high cap of 25GB a month in New Zealand, my girlfriend has 2GB a month. You guys really don't have it that bad.
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Post » Fri Dec 10, 2010 5:11 am

Pretty sure Japan has the fastest/best internet in the entire world. S. Korea probably isn't far behind.

I think it's just an ISP's way of making money: you pay less, you get a lower cap and thus less internet allowance.

And for gods sake people, stop crying. I have a very high cap of 25GB a month in New Zealand, my girlfriend has 2GB a month. You guys really don't have it that bad.


I realize that in comparison we don't have it bad but its like having the right to vote and then suddenly having it taken away. Just because in other countries you can't vote it doesn't make it right here.
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