New Bitter Coast Trees : III

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:24 am

Bon jour.
I'am making new trees for bitter coast
http://i064.radikal.ru/1006/e5/4f04ae49c405.jpg
But i just dont know how to make leaves for those trees with planes, can i ask some help from anyone who know how to do it?
Btw i can make textures for leaves, its not problem for me.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:49 am

http://s54.radikal.ru/i144/1006/6e/0669ce621a86.jpg
http://i057.radikal.ru/1006/fa/645fb0d4a158.jpg

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:00 am

Are you wondering how to place the planes? Or maybe how to set up the alpha channels?

Anyway, I think you should know before you go much further that there are mushrooms that are placed on the trunks of the original BC trees that are needed for quests. If you are going to make knew trees you will have to make the trunks pretty much exactly the same size as the original or you will get floating or enveloped mushrooms.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:01 am

I dunno how to place planes.

Anyway, I think you should know before you go much further that there are mushrooms that are placed on the trunks of the original BC trees that are needed for quests. If you are going to make knew trees you will have to make the trunks pretty much exactly the same size as the original or you will get floating or enveloped mushrooms.

I'am planning to re build bitter coast in future with new flora also, but those planes makes me crazy, can i ask someone to help me with that?

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:37 am

Your new trees look great! I like how they are all twisty and gnarled - I can totally see them growing in a mucky swamp.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:09 am

Thank you, i have also some others i did:
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/1006/84/537975dc2475.jpg
http://s005.radikal.ru/i212/1006/c3/8ca72c8fdd35.jpg

But still i just dont know what to do with leaves on trees.

And flora:
http://s006.radikal.ru/i213/1006/4a/7e7b02373e63.jpg
http://s04.radikal.ru/i177/1006/76/7f66931a1a88.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/1006/db/05347aec9181.jpg
http://i061.radikal.ru/1006/4a/1cc9db580eca.jpg
http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/1006/3b/bce9f51c7fa9.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i090/1006/db/4601628c8771.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/1006/9c/2bc3b3e7f607.jpg
http://i056.radikal.ru/1006/0b/3c4e240d8531.jpg

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:44 am

amazing utter amazing you could use leave from the flora on the trees only smaller making the trees and flora blend in. will these trees move like vurts, he hasnt done bitter cost yet and if you made it compatible with his work, you could save him the hassle or doing that regen, if any thing could you make it compatible with his ground cover mod one again amazing models cant wait for a release

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:24 am

My gosh! I haven't seen flora this creative in a while, right up there with Vurt. But this is a class of its own. I want!!!

Keep up the great work! :goodjob:

-Melchior Dahrk

» Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:13 pm

Thank you, i have also some others i did:
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/1006/84/537975dc2475.jpg
http://s005.radikal.ru/i212/1006/c3/8ca72c8fdd35.jpg

But still i just dont know what to do with leaves on trees.

And flora:
http://s006.radikal.ru/i213/1006/4a/7e7b02373e63.jpg
http://s04.radikal.ru/i177/1006/76/7f66931a1a88.jpg
http://s55.radikal.ru/i148/1006/db/05347aec9181.jpg
http://i061.radikal.ru/1006/4a/1cc9db580eca.jpg
http://s42.radikal.ru/i097/1006/3b/bce9f51c7fa9.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i090/1006/db/4601628c8771.jpg
http://s45.radikal.ru/i109/1006/9c/2bc3b3e7f607.jpg
http://i056.radikal.ru/1006/0b/3c4e240d8531.jpg

Nice!

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:13 am

Thank you, i have also some others i did:
http://s56.radikal.ru/i151/1006/84/537975dc2475.jpg
http://s005.radikal.ru/i212/1006/c3/8ca72c8fdd35.jpg

I am not a big fan of the first set of trees you posted but that mushroom-tree thing in the first 2 shots above are really cool looking. I could certainly believe them being in the BC. :goodjob:

The flora is rather interesting as well.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:32 am

Those look very Morrowindy. I hope you will NOT use billboards, billboard "trees" are horrible. :flamethrower:

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:30 am

Well, the most hardly leaves is swamp leaves, i just dont know how to make planes for it, as i said - i can make texture, but i'am low skilled in technical of placing planes on trees...
I dont like idea to make copy/paste of leaves models, i would like to ask someone to make new ones, as Vality did it, his work is very beautiful, but seems he is buzy.

will these trees move like vurts, he hasnt done bitter cost yet and if you made it compatible with his work, you could save him the hassle or doing that regen, if any thing could you make it compatible with his ground cover mod one again amazing models cant wait for a release

Well Vurt stuff is great, but i would like to make my own one.

My gosh! I haven't seen flora this creative in a while, right up there with Vurt. But this is a class of its own. I want!!!

Keep up the great work!

Nice!

Thank you.

I am not a big fan of the first set of trees you posted but that mushroom-tree thing in the first 2 shots above are really cool looking. I could certainly believe them being in the BC.

The flora is rather interesting as well.

Thank you, i am very happy to hear it from you.

Those look very Morrowindy. I hope you will NOT use billboards, billboard "trees" are horrible.

Thank you, no i would use billboards, i would like to make good leaves, but i need help with it as i said.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:51 am

sorry i didnt mean make your work like vurts i only meant could you make it compatible because i want to be able you use your mod along side his, you work is amazing, will the trees use mges wind animations?

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:02 am

I don't know what program you are using but I have a link to what seems like a simple way to place leaves in 3dsmax using particle array....

http://www.andyzibits.com/tut_particle_tree_generation.html

I would be willing to bet that you could use a similar technique in any 3d app provided you know the equivalent tools and so on.

» Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:03 pm

sorry i didnt mean make your work like vurts i only meant could you make it compatible because i want to be able you use your mod along side his, you work is amazing, will the trees use mges wind animations?

I dont know, i simply decide to open thread for asking help, and its big shock for me - to catch sooo positive comments, before i will know what i will do next way, i should complete my stuff, i also worked on some rocks for bitter coast (I did took some from modders resources, but most of them is mine and my friend):
http://s43.radikal.ru/i102/1006/96/df083cc029db.jpg
http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/1006/07/c693ee4767b7.jpg

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:39 am

well when your work is amazing as it it it will turn heads, love the rocks just what bitter cost needs now stop teasing us and realise something hehehe

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:15 am

The tree trunks look great. I'm definitely in the "want" camp here, too.

As for the leaf planes, look at some of the existing trees. It's really not that bad - you need a texture of a leafy branch where the branch appears to attach to the trunk/bigger branches. You will need to set up an alpha channel where there aren't any leaves - however, there are a lot of really good leaf/branch textures to use as a guide.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:53 am

You know what I've always felt would look right at home in the bitter coast? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_moss.

http://www.learnnc.org/lp/media/uploads/2007/10/spanish_moss.jpg, and watch out for mud crabs.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:38 am

As for the leaf planes, look at some of the existing trees. It's really not that bad - you need a texture of a leafy branch where the branch appears to attach to the trunk/bigger branches. You will need to set up an alpha channel where there aren't any leaves - however, there are a lot of really good leaf/branch textures to use as a guide.

You know what I've always felt would look right at home in the bitter coast? Spanish moss.

Take a left to get to Seyda Neen, and watch out for mud crabs.

Hmm... Okay, i will try.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:33 am

looks great, the first tree is very creative

The flora is very nice as well. you could make a plane of leaves in NGplant, it's very easy to tweak, it can export to .obj.

If you have problem with NGplant just PM me.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:42 am

Cant do anything with leaves, it makes me bored.
Also did fast test http://s41.radikal.ru/i092/1006/c1/fc547d115cba.jpg

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:28 am

The boring part with the Bitter coast trees is that it has fungi and sometimes other stuff (vines) attached to it, so basicly you must make the tree trunks 100% like the originals if you don't fancy floating things..

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:39 am

I will redo all things on the bitter coast, so it dosnt matter for me.

» Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:33 pm

Ah cool

Good luck with your mod, and PM me if you need help with leaves.

» Wed Jul 21, 2010 1:36 pm

Ah cool Good luck with your mod, and PM me if you need help with leaves.

Thank you mon ami.
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