Here's an idea, maybe the game isn't about Brotherhood.

Yeah, you're right. I love the Brotherhood (Mainly East Coast) but I don't want them to be the focus. Kinda takes the fun out of 'em =/

I was commenting more on the OPs generally assumtion that the Brotherhood were the main guys. I don't have a problem with them being the focus provided it was done by competant writers.

I think they should take a break, maybe be like they were in NV. Just a bunker with a really fun questline, but some repeatable stuff.

New enemy for the BoS? How about the BoS themselves. Like Styles said, it would be nice to see a "enemy within" scenario for Lyon's BoS, but I think it could also be set with the West Coast BoS as well. Veronica and Father Elijah can't be the only two, who have doubts of the BoS's current direction. Something's got to change with the West Coast BoS, from the inside, if they're to survive for at least another decade.

This would be great.

Other than that, I'd like the game to be in area of which we don't know anything yet and all factions should be new.
If we get neither of them, I just want the BoS to be like they were in Fallout 1. So they would be there, but in the background and no spotlight on them.

I would like to see more "local" fights myself, I know there not on the big scale war thing but I like when smaller settlements fight it out or smaller groups get absorbed into a larger one.

Also could create a more in-depth reputation system with multiple settlements joining allegiances and such.

Super Mutant/Deathclaw hybrids. Or intelligent Deathclaws. Maybe Caesar's Legion gets a hold of the FEV virus? All I know is killing humans was a breeze/boring.

Hopefully it's the boring NCR.... BORING NCR!!!!

The BoS just is a bunch of bullies,imo. They need someone to take them and put them into some sort of jail scrnario. Have a large pressent faction in the area that has captured and punished them. Have a haul filled with them and their power armor is salvaged and use against them with efficiancy. And all their toys were also turned in them.

I think we should move past the space soldiers, power armor is really repetitive at this point.

I'l paste what I put in another thread. Basically at some point I want a game set in Detroit.

Have the home of American automobiles become a thriving industry center right up until the war like it was envisioned to be in the 50s, then leading up to the war it became a military producing power house.
Have the BoS from Chicago and Lyons clash over the way the mid west BoS keep their populance in a dictatorship as well as the technology buried deep in the factories. The factories themselves spreading deep underground, on the surface are buildings piled upon each other.
Finally finish off the Enclave in a decision between their evil, the BoS middle ground and Lyons liberal side.
Have the enclave remnants be extremely secretive like they were in two, dealing with the right wing BoS leaders in a conspiracy to take control of the brotherhoods power, turning detroit into a slave powered military producer for the enclaves last attempt to rise back to power.

I think I'd want to see this in either the next game, or the one after as it might be time to try something completely new. Either move to the Institute mentioned in 3, like New York or something, or (Drumrole) move to London. Then come back to Detroit.

The BoS should be inbetween a major And minor faction in the next series. The game will probably take place in the East coast or central America. With the enclave dead, and the possibility of all the mutants dead, the east coast brotherhood trained many people and became a powerful force, (maybe 300 members) they returned to the original goal and we're rejoined by the outcast they spread into the West (Chicago) and met a large group of tribals who fought with technology they salvaged from a pre war bunker.with this tech they rebelled against th. Midwest BoS and pushed them out. The trials are cruel and harsh on the citizens of Chicago which they control. The BoS wants there tech and also wants to help the citizens so they declare war. The tribals are also skilled and The brotherhood is caught up in a tough situation, and the player can tip the scale in any side.

The Legion, we know the Legion and BoS have some type of conflict and they Legion seems to be winning, I want to see that explored more than anything else.

Its even better cause it seems to be the MWBoS that the Legion are running into

If the MWBOS is featured in Fallout 4 however, I don't want that fight to be the primary focal point. Not to say it wouldn't be interesting to explore in some way, but I think there could be more important and more interesting aspects of the MWBOS to explore.

Like say, a conflict with the MLA.

Chaos Brotherhood?

If we had to have the BoS again, I would like to see an organised, intelligent super mutant faction. Something reminiscent of The Master, get the newbies into the old story, and make everyone else whose played the first Fallout smile with almost nostalgia. It's not as is they didn't take enough "influence" from F1 and F2 in F3, I don't see why they shouldn't do it again. However if the BoS are back again, I don't want to be forced into working with them like in F3, learn from NV and the earlier Fallouts, we all like to pick who we work with, so much more fun.
Another major faction could be a whole new creation, a modified FEV strain that doesn't quite "ruin" them, just makes them stronger and more intelligent, either that or bring the Commonwealth into it more.

I have an idea. Those that haven't played Fallout, Fallout 2 and Tactics should just go out and play them. One of the reasons I don't like Fallout 3 that much as a Fallout game is because it just ripped off Fallout and Fallout 2 and mixed them together and put them in DC. It sure wouldn't make me smile with nostalgia to have Fallout yet again copied and pasted into a new Fallout. Have something new!

Also for FEV to pop up yet again would also be bad. Again something new next time, not just another copy and paste of Fallout and Fallout 2.

I agree about not wanting to be forced to help or join the BoS. I don't even want them in the next game unless they are the MWBoS.

It wouldn't be ripping off Fallout 1 though, that's like saying NV ripped off the entire Roman Empire with Ceaser. Someone could have learnt about the past and re-do it. Bethesda doesn't put original fans first with their games at all, I would say 60% of people who played fallout 3 and New Vegas haven't played anything earlier than that, so it could be very likely that they bring back an FEV/something similar to Fallout 4. There's not really a huge amount of things they can do, and it will never please everyone, I just think it could be done well and if it's all in a new setting could be interesting.

$0.02

New Vegas didn't rip off the Roman Empire. It isn't even a fair comparison. To have another Super Mutant Army yet again threating to destroy the Brotherhood and take over the wasteland would definitely be ripping off Fallout.

Many people on here started with Fallout 3 or New Vegas and have gone out and played Fallout, Fallout 2 and Tactics. There is no reason why other people can't do it.


I am not a big fan of Bethesda but I still feel if they put their minds to it they can come up with a unique story of their own, with totally new factions such as the Commonwealth which should have played a much bigger role in Fallout 3. But saying "there's not really a huge amount of things they can do" to me shows you think Bethesda can't think of anything original.

What you are asking for is just the samething over and over again, or worse a complete reboot of the series which would also mean Fallout 3 and New Vegas needs to be rebooted.

I fully agree with you about new factions, but realistically, I'm very skeptical about that happening. What I've said is what I expect to happen, and I wouldn't hugely mind, it will be another Fallout, I won't kill myself if it isn't great, but whatever they do it won't svck completely. The Super Mutants don't have to have anything to do with the BoS, if it's in a new location then there will be a different threat, I'm not saying they should regurgitate the first few Fallouts at all, but you can't expect them to change a huge amount of it, it's just not realistic to get brand new everything.

I am also skeptical, but I am still holding out hope for an orginal story and alot of new factions.

Regardless of what we all think, BoS will be in the next game either as random encounters, major faction, or minor/dying faction for the sole reason that people want to see them (and not want to see them!). I'd like for them to be included as a optional faction and as far as enemies...I'm pretty sure BoS doesn't get along with anyone (faction wise) so you don't really need to create a "new" enemy for them. But! I would like to see all new factions, and none being pre-destined to be the bad guys or good guys. Everyone has an agenda, how you view it on a personal level will determine what you decide is good/bad, right/wrong. Imagine your stance if you viewed the NCR as invading your land, "annexing" so they can build more farms or ranches and you just get the shaft? Then who becomes the bad guy?

Only form I want to see organized super mutants is if there's the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mutant_Liberation_Army consisting of http://savagebeatings.deviantart.com/gallery/34104749#/d4gyvpa, other sentinent human mutants and even http://savagebeatings.deviantart.com/gallery/34104752#/d4ix6fz! (ok, not THAT deathclaw in particular)