New Build Issues : IV

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 12:15 am

Current LO:

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0B  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0D  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0E  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0F  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]10  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]11  WindowLightingSystem.esp12  ImprovedSigns.esp13  Willful Resistance.esp  [Version 4.0]14  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.2]15  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  FineWeapons.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp**  mz_Shields_SI.esp16  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]17  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]18  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]19  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]1A  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]1B  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]1C  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1D  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]1E  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1F  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]20  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]21  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]22  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]23  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]24  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.1.0]25  SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp  [Version 2.6]26  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp27  nGCD.esp28  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp29  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]2A  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]2B  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]2C  ProgressRacial.esp2D  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp2E  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp2F  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVCore - Limr'l.esp30  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]31  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]32  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]33  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock.esp**  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]34  Bashed Patch, 0.esp35  Streamline 3.1.esp

I am having an ingredient-related crash. I forgot to try a different ingredient, but the game crashes immediately when my PC tries to consume "Dog Meat". I do not know if it is a COBL or MMM item. He pulled it off of the dead Goblin Shaman in the first room of the starter dungeon.

Edit: It's definitely the dog meat...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:03 pm

I think you have a problem with Cobl, because the Cobl Merge Later plugin is missing.
Try to reinstalled Cobl through OBMM instead of the BAIN installation or vice versa.

Sorry I can't help you with MMM so good luck.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:11 pm

I think you have a problem with Cobl, because the Cobl Merge Later plugin is missing.
Try to reinstalled Cobl through OBMM instead of the BAIN installation or vice versa.

Sorry I can't help you with MMM so good luck.

I have not ever used the COBL Merge Late plugin. There is nothing wrong with the COBL installation. That plugin is not installed because I did not check it to have it installed.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:00 pm

I have not ever used the COBL Merge Late plugin. There is nothing wrong with the COBL installation. That plugin is not installed because I did not check it to have it installed.

There might be a problem with Harverst Flora 3.0 and if I remember correctly that mod must have Cobl Merge Later plugin installed.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:07 pm

There might be a problem with Harverst Flora 3.0 and if I remember correctly that mod must have Cobl Merge Later plugin installed.

That COBL plugin is for COBL-aware hunger mods. Dog Meat is an ingredient from MMM, and I unchecked the COBL Catalog option and the Coblize items script...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:52 pm

Here is the readme about the "00 Cobl Core" in the BAIN package.

=== 00 Cobl Core
This is the core part of Cobl. Be sure to install Cobl Main.esm and all of the resources. Note that if you're going to use Cobl Races, you'll also need to install Cobl Cosmetics Res 01 (separate download from same place you got Cobl).
* __Cobl Main.esm__
* Activate this. This is the core library of Cobl.
* __Cobl Glue.esp__
* Activate this. While Cobl Main.esm defines stuff, it's Cobl Glue that does most of the work of actually putting that stuff into Cyrodiil. Theoretically, you can run without this, but you would hardly see any Cobl stuff in the world if you didn't have it active.
* __Cobl Si.esp__
* Activate if Shivering Isles is installed. Adds Cobl items to Shivering Isles.
* __Cobl Tweaks.esp__
* Activate (unless directed otherwise) but load early.
* Note: While Cobl Glue avoids making substantial changes to the world, Cobl Tweaks does tweak some things. Specifically, it modifies some creatures to include [[#|Lore Ingredients]] drops. If this interferes with other mods, you can disable Cobl Tweaks, load it before the other mods, and/or perhaps [[#UseWryeBash|bash patch]] it to compatibility.
* Note: FCOM already includes the functionality of Cobl Tweaks, and so FCOM users should not activate Cobl Tweaks.
* __Cobl Races.esp__
* Activate this if you want Cobl's expanded Race/Cosmetics options.
* __Order:__ Be sure to load after other mods that inadvertently alter races. (E.g. many companion mods.)
* If you have several mods that make conflicting changes to races, you should probably use a [[#UseWryeBash|Wrye Bash]] to resolve them.
* See [[#|Cosmetics]] for more info.
* Note that Cobl Races requires that Shivering Isles be installed/active.
* __Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp__
* **Do not activate this mod! It can ONLY be used by merging it into the Bashed Patch!**
* __Missing Masters:__ Most likely this mod has masters that are not available on your machine. As a result activating it results in a "Missing Masters" problem which will cause Oblivion to crash immediately on startup.
* However, when Bash merges this into the bashed patch, it does a [[http://wrye.ufrealms.net/Wrye%20Bash.html#MergeFiltering|filtered merge]] which discards references to mods that you don't have active, thus avoiding the missing masters problem. (Which is why Wrye Bash is required.)
* Adds foods from a number of mods to the Cobl [[#|Dinner Plate]]. Hence it is only useful if you're using a using a Cobl aware hunger mod. In addition, it will not function unless you also have OBSE 15 (or higher) installed and active.
* __Order:__ This mod should be just before the bashed patch in load order.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:53 pm

From the ReadMe: "it is only useful if you're using a using a Cobl aware hunger mod."

Anyway, I am about to test with COBL removed...

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 1.4.0]09  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0A  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0B  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0C  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0D  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0F  ImprovedSigns.esp10  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.2]11  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  FineWeapons.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp**  mz_Shields_SI.esp12  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]13  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]14  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]15  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]16  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]17  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]19  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1A  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]1B  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]1C  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]1D  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.1.0]1E  SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp  [Version 2.6]1F  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]20  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp21  nGCD.esp22  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp23  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp24  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVCore - Limr'l.esp25  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]26  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock.esp**  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]27  Bashed Patch, 0.esp28  FormID Finder4.esp29  Streamline 3.1.esp

Oblivion died after my PC tried to eat Venison.

Edit: Items with restore fatigue effects seem to cause the same crash.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:29 pm

From the ReadMe: "it is only useful if you're using a using a Cobl aware hunger mod."

Anyway, I am about to test with COBL removed...

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]08  DLCShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 1.4.0]09  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0A  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0B  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0C  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0D  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]0F  ImprovedSigns.esp10  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.2]11  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  FineWeapons.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp**  mz_Shields_SI.esp12  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]13  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]14  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]15  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]16  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]17  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]19  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1A  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]1B  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]1C  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]1D  Quest Award Leveller.esp  [Version 2.1.0]1E  SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp  [Version 2.6]1F  RefScope.esp  [Version 2.0.2]20  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp21  nGCD.esp22  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - Cyrodiil + SI.esp**  Let There Be Darkness - OOO.esp23  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp24  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVCore - Limr'l.esp25  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]26  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp++  Real Lava 1.3.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock.esp**  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]27  Bashed Patch, 0.esp28  FormID Finder4.esp29  Streamline 3.1.esp

Oblivion died after my PC tried to eat Venison.

Edit: Items with restore fatigue effects seem to cause the same crash.

The only thing I can of is this "1E SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp [Version 2.6]" causing CTD with restore fatigue effects.

I know there is an update for the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16704 mod.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:18 pm

The only thing I can of is this "1E SM Encumbrance and Fatigue.esp [Version 2.6]" causing CTD with restore fatigue effects.

I know there is an update for the http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=16704 mod.

The problem is not just restore fatigue, and I was only running the official ESPs, RBP and the Bashed Patch when I discovered the restore fatigue issue. (I did not bother to post my five-plugin LO.) I am guessing it has something to do with my UI config. Ah well... Eating alchemical ingredients is something my PC almost never does, haha. If SM had not been installed at the beginning (which removes the starting spells), he would have never tried...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:20 pm

The problem is not just restore fatigue, and I was only running the official ESPs, RBP and the Bashed Patch when I discovered the restore fatigue issue. (I did not bother to post my five-plugin LO.) I am guessing it has something to do with my UI config. Ah well... Eating alchemical ingredients is something my PC almost never does, haha. If SM had not been installed at the beginning (which removes the starting spells), he would have never tried...

Well, I guess you have that figured out now. :evil:

Better than never.

It's working now?

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:53 pm

Well, I guess you have that figured out now. :evil:

Better than never.

It's working now?

It is going to take a while, but I hope that is the correct guess. Aww, geez... I could've just moved the Menus, Meshes and Textures folders... I will report back after I have reinstalled the rest of my base, which is basically Robert and FCOM (+COBL) right now.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:36 pm

It is going to take a while, but I hope that is the correct guess. Aww, geez... I could've just moved the Menus, Meshes and Textures folders... I will report back after I have reinstalled the rest of my base, which is basically Robert and FCOM (+COBL) right now.

You could try to have all of the Cobl resources in the "00 Cobl Core" installed just to be sure that haven't to do with your recent CTD issue.

Btw... I don't know if I'm online when you get back, because I really need to throw out my current OS setup to the junkyard later this evening. Remember my local time here is 6 hours ahead of Bethesda's time zone.

You can use the link in my signature to see your exact time zone from mine. :user:

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:28 pm

Now it is crashing immediately, without anything other than the Win7 trying to find a solution message, with or without plugins, with or without OBSE. Maybe I uninstalled something I should not have, and I do not know what that could be. The Oblivion.ini is not the problem either... I only have five non-Microsoft services running, and none of those should have anything to do with Oblivion running.

Oh well, time for a reinstall...

Edit: All right, the game did not crash until SL tried to save in battle. (I'd forgotten to replace the INI files with my configs.)

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:47 am

Alchemical ingredients have no effect...??

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5b]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5b]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.33]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Progress.esm  [Version 2.2]**  TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp**  TNR - ShiveringIsles.esp08  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]09  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0A  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]0B  SM Plugin Refurbish - SI.esp  [Version 1.30]0C  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0D  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0E  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  PW_MorrowindFog.esp++  Regrowing Nirnroot - Dissappear Reappear.esp  [Version 1.01]0F  Willful Resistance.esp  [Version 4.0]10  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 4.2.2]11  sr_super_hotkeys.esp  [Version 0.54]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp++  RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp12  KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp  [Version 1.2]++  FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.72]14  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]15  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]16  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]17  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]18  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]19  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]1B  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1C  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]1D  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - No Bone Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]1E  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 1.0]++  FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp  [Version 2]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]1F  Blood&Mud.esp20  Blood&Mud - EE patch.esp  [Version 4.2]21  FCOM_Blood&Mud.esp  [Version 0.9.9]22  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]23  Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp  [Version 3.1.1]24  Enhanced Economy - House prices.esp  [Version 1.0]25  nGCD.esp26  nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp++  nGCD Skeleton Key.esp27  ProgressGSD.esp  [Version 2.0]28  ProgressMBSP.esp  [Version 2.0]29  ProgressRBSP.esp  [Version 1.0]2A  ProgressRacial.esp2B  ProgressArmorer.esp  [Version 1.0]2C  Atmospheric Loading Screens - No Text.esp2D  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.52EV-D]++  bgBalancingEVCore - Limr'l.esp2E  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]2F  bgMagicEVPaperChase.esp  [Version 1.68EV]30  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90]31  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_OOO.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_MMM.esp  [Version 0.89]++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.86]++  SM_NoSpellLights.esp  [Version 0.70]++  SM_Scrolls.esp  [Version 0.84]++  SM_SigilStone.esp  [Version 0.83]**  [GFX]_Initial_Glow-all.esp**  Enhanced Economy - Soulgems.esp  [Version 4.2.2]32  Bashed Patch, 0.esp33  Streamline 3.1.esp

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 7:52 pm

Only thing I can say is to start over and just reinstall from scratch if you're having problems loading vanilla +UOP.
Also this is kinda disheartening since you're the creator of POSItive...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:22 pm

Only thing I can say is to start over and just reinstall from scratch if you're having problems loading vanilla +UOP.
Also this is kinda disheartening since you're the creator of POSItive...

No, I got past that. I am still thinking that the last thing was a UI issue. I wonder if it is a Bashed Patch configuration problem. I have never had this problem before, alchemical ingredients not working...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:56 pm

Alchemical ingredients have no effect...??

Looks fine as far as I can tell, except that you should update OOO to 1.34. But that shouldn't cause this issue of course - no idea on that.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:32 pm

Looks fine as far as I can tell, except that you should update OOO to 1.34. But that shouldn't cause this issue of course - no idea on that.

I can't believe I missed that one... Okay, well that leaves the Bashed Patch to check I guess, maybe scripts...

Edit: The vanilla test checked out all right, so I just need to go through these plugins, whew...

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:10 pm

That COBL plugin is for COBL-aware hunger mods. Dog Meat is an ingredient from MMM, and I unchecked the COBL Catalog option and the Coblize items script...

I don't use hunger mods either, but I do have both COBL catalog and Coblize items checked. Never had a problem with that.

» Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:47 am

I don't use hunger mods either, but I do have both COBL catalog and Coblize items checked. Never had a problem with that.

I have those checked as well. Right now, the only thing I am trying to figure out is the alchemical effects not working issue; however, Bash is being mean, which has temporarily halted all progress.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:43 am

I have those checked as well. Right now, the only thing I am trying to figure out is the alchemical effects not working issue; however, Bash is being mean, which has temporarily halted all progress.

OK.. misunderstood.

I don't usually eat any ingredients either, with the exception of Mandrake Root (Cure Disease)

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:16 pm

OK.. misunderstood.

I don't usually eat any ingredients either, with the exception of Mandrake Root (Cure Disease)

This is what I get for breaking routine...

Update: FCOM is out, unless there is a really obscure edit in one of the MMM or FCOM add-ons. I'm throwing in SM and LAME now. Nothing else seems to be a likely candidate. COBL has been in the whole way, as it should...

Edit: SM and LAME are out too..

Edit: All right! All of the tests were either pointless are focusing on the wrong thing because I loaded up the whole thing and the restore fatigure from the stolen cheese in the Weye house worked...

Edit: I guess I should have tested with the same ingredients. So far, this only applies to anything I picked up during the Starter Dungeon tutorial, for all that show. Cairn Bolet Cap, Flour, neither gives a restore affect. Everything I have picked up since then seems to be fine, but I am really not sure... This will take a while.

Edit: All that will be left after this test (adding nGCD and Progress) is the Bashed Patch, the tweaks. :L

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:46 pm

I once accidentally clicked the MAO skeleton tweak one time and it caused all sorts of crashing until I actually figured out what the problem was, just a suggestion.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:10 pm

I once accidentally clicked the MAO skeleton tweak one time and it caused all sorts of crashing until I actually figured out what the problem was, just a suggestion.

I narrowed the problem down to nGCD.esp ... :L

Edit: Yup, just extracted it from my 50 plugin LO, and I get the same result loading it by itself.

» Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:29 pm

Did you have cobl installed during the starter dungeon, maybe the items are not coblized.. But shouldn't they still work if not??