I don't know about a full blown alter ego like Bruce Wayne - Batman but a disguise would be nice. I agree, we never really see the guards do anything besides go to guard duty and then the barracks. Apparently it was going to be a big part of Radiant AI but got scrapped because they couldn't get it right. I hope it makes a big return.

There should be no guard barracks and every guard should have a name, house, and family.

I think the only equipment provided to a guard should be a tabard with an insignia on it, for identification, for most places. Large cities like Solitude WOULD have equipment provided, however.

I like that! Heck, back in the Roman Republic the actual army would only wear the equipment each member could afford, the guards should be even moreso.

And to that end, they shouldn't go fighting to the death for inconsequential reasons, like pickpocketing. If they see you pickpocketing and you pull out a daedric warhammer when they ask you about it, there's no reason to die for that.

PLEASE NO CONSOLE WAR !!

I won't start a console war, because as posted above, all svck in their own special way.

Edit: perfect timing with changing signature. Perfect.

LOL roadblocks, how will this stop somebody on foot?

They won't be able to fast travel.

One thing I will say is that if you can kill one NPC without the guards finding out, you can kill EVERY npc without the guards finding out, thus giving you unlimited gold and killing a lot pf the challange of the game

'Cause that wouldn't be tedious would it.

I stole a spoon now I have to wait 1.5 hours realtime until 3 days have passed (20mins per in game day).

That is one thing that would have me running straight back to the shop for a refund, I only get about 2 hours a week on games as I have a family.

This will never be the case.

surely during a civil war with a lot of stressed guards they're going to be if anything more harsh on small crimes and misdemeanors. Think about it if your working overtime constantly vigilant for your city you're bound to get a little bit tetchy when you're dragged away by some screaming civilian because someones been caught pickpocketing.

I like the ideas people are putting up, especially about how due to the fact that Skyrim is in a State of civil war, the handling of criminals might be considerably different.

Let's say you break laws in one city, then flee to a city that is actually at odds with the city in which you broke the law. They might welcome you as a hero for disrupting the peace of their enemies. Also another idea someone brought up was that due to the chaotic state of affairs, it is unlikely that cities would realistically send out troops of guards far from the walls of the city to hunt you down - they need them back at home defending the city. This is why I think it'd be cool if a bounty system AGAINST you is used, so that common NPCs might turn you, or special bounty hunters/assassins are hired to track you down while you diddle around in the world.

This would add a new level of gameplay because then it wouldn't seem so easy to just sleep in a random camp site alone in the wild, you will want to make friends with campers (if you are a criminal, hopefully the bandits won't just attack you out of nowhere, and instead you can use diplomacy with them.) This would allow you to sleep with NPCs watching your back, so if a bounty hunter attacks you have time to react and prepare instead of waking up as soon as the bounty hunter/assassin is stabbing you in the belly with a dagger laced with sleeping poison.

It'd also be cool if the more higher class bounty hunters use tactics like following you from a distance in a cave, and jumping into the melee when things are already looking bad for you, or shooting you with a poisoned arrow from a distance and running off and waiting for you to reorient yourself and figure out what the hell just hit you. Someone mentioned attack dogs as well, that'd be cool if some bounty hunters actually used wolfhounds to track you down, making some encounters pretty epic, with dogs tripping and dragging you down while their master wails on you with his sword.

All in all, I loved being the badguy in Oblivion, but I never felt it was really much of a challenge and never felt "worried" that I might get caught. "Stop criminal scum! Will you pay your fine? Go on and take your time answering, I'll wait. Hopefully you don't try to cut me in half like you did my other 30 friends."

like i say it depends on what you have stolen a spoon is worthless so you should wait 1 hour(in gametime)

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You know, I think this game will have a huge ammount of content in it. But i don't expect minor things like this being implemented in it

I originally posted this in another topic, but i think it holds true here too.


So long as you are famous enough. An official won't make speeches about a common theft from the marketplace from a no-name, but as you're fame increases and the severity of you're crimes grow then an official would take notice of you and act accordingly. I just hope you are able to go about you're business even whole being wanted, guards shouldn't be mind readers and memorize every wanted criminal in Skyrim. I think the entire system needs an overhaul, gate guards might notice more than a city patrol guard in terms of faces, but only if the word of the crime you committed has time to travel to another town. Killing a civilian on one side of the map, and then riding Puff the magic dragon to the other shouldn't make it possible for the guards to know of the crime. Have a set/variable time on the spreading of the crime based on location, witnesses, fame, and severity of the crime.

Make each position of guard specialize in his own area, the gate guard will have an easier time recognizing wanted criminals foreign to the city, than a city patrol guard who is more informed about crimes that happen within the walls of the city. Not to say that all of the guards should be dunces to any crime not within their parameters, simply that a guard will not have heard of a minor crime if it is outside of their area. An apple being stolen may attract the attention of the city patrol, but the gate keeper may be oblivious to the action.

Agree with this because i hate Psychic Npc's

Nice Idea and if your in the city were you are known as a Criminal,Guards from that city attack you

I'd actually love a tiered crime system like in GTA: anybody want to see the law sending elite Battlemagi after you?

Me. I agree with a lot of what's been said here.


I don't know if I would go all out. But haven't it a lot more complicated than ordinary guards coming after you if they see you sounds a lot more fun.


If you've killed 1000 guards. Someone high up has gotta think "hang on a minute, we better get somebody a little bit better to do the job".

i just hope they make prison cool...i would LOVE to role play as a prisoner...as long as that didnt mean walking around in my cell by myself for 30 minutes. -.-

Unfortunately for your PC, romances in the vanilla game are out. Sorry...

Ya and as collateral for these roadblocks, maybe it could slow trade and have some type of macro economic repercussion? Just an idea

Something really annoyed me and surprised me the last time I played Oblivion:
Some NPCs knocked plates and food off the table in an inn, so I used the move key to try and drag them back onto the table. Naturally I was promptly arrested and had to reload a save.

Simply moving an item should not get you in trouble. If something fell on the floor and you picked it up in real life it wouldn't be considered stealing. Only putting the item in your inventory should prompt arrest in my opinion. In a house maybe I could see, but not in a shop or inn etc.

Once you reach the highest bounty people around skyrim should know you permanently. If you work your bounty up so high you should be rewarded for such effort by being permanently remembered for being one of the worst criminals in Skyrim! People will recognize and comment on you or stray to the other side of the street to avoid you.

That would be very cool